Thanks for all the replies, ive been having countless debates regarding this
subject on IRC
and it seems to one of them debates nobody can win.
Never the less, thank you for taking the time get involved.
On 6/27/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I personally used the dl example for
As Nick said, you really need to be developing in a Standards Compliance
browser.
Internet Explorer is not a Standards Compliance browser, so what works in IE
wont
necessarily work in FireFox, Safari and Opera to name a few. Work the other
way
around and you will notice an improvement.
You also
Hello
I am about to start a new website and was given some advice by a SEO expert
who says the h1 on the page should be the most relevant thing to the page.
For example for a Sports Packages company I design the website for they
have:
Company Name
Tagline
Page Content
Which in my instance is:
H1 should be your company name, or logo.
h1img src= alt=/h1
Some people like to use IR (Image Replacement) for logos, but a logo is your
brand, just as your
name is your brand, so i wouldnt use IR on a logo. Tagline should be H2.
Im not sure on what you mean by page content, i wouldnt wrap the
James Jeffery wrote:
H1 should be your company name, or logo.
Why?
shouldn't stuff that appears on every page, maybe in a div id=branding,
be of less importance than the subject of the page?
I'd be doing:
head
titleRugby World Cup 2007 Packages - Glory Days/title
/head
body
div
You can use more than one h1
Darren.
On 27/06/07, Web Man Walking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
I am about to start a new website and was given some advice by a SEO expert
who says the h1 on the page should be the most relevant thing to the page.
For example for a Sports Packages company I
I'd agree with the SEO expert, H1 should be saved for the most important
heading on a page - which is not generally the company name. So in your
example I'd say that Rugby World Cup 2007 Packages should be in a H1.
However that means it's probably not going to be the first heading element
on the
Chris Taylor wrote:
However that means it's probably not going to be the first heading element
on the page, which is frowned upon by some. Can anyone else expand on the
reasons for that?
I think we need to be careful how we visualise page structure.
I prefer the pragmatic headed paper
I didnt say you can only use a single H1 element and yes H1 is to be used
for the most
important headings on the page. When im developing for corp. customers i
tend to place
the companys identity (The Logo/Name) in the the H1 element because this is,
the most
important heading on the page and its
On 27 Jun 2007, at 6:43 PM, James Jeffery wrote:
H1 should be your company name, or logo.
h1img src= alt=/h1
Some people like to use IR (Image Replacement) for logos, but a logo
is your brand, just as your
name is your brand, so i wouldnt use IR on a logo. Tagline should be
H2.
Im not
Good point Tony. Your example with the branding in a p looks like the best
one for this situation. I'm certainly going to stick to that for future
projects.
Chris
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tony Crockford
Sent: 27 June 2007 10:09
Hi,
I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a
QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas
would be very gratefully received!
At the moment my page embeds a video using the standards compliant
method for QT videos as described by Elizabeth Castro
So basically what your trying to say is that branding is the least important
part
of the page, so place it in a p ?
That is incorrect. Lets say you have:
Earth Consultants
Free Housing and Enviroment Advice
Between your title tags your likley to place something like:
titleEarth Consultants -
Web Man Walking wrote:
h1 id=companyGlory Days/h1
h2 id=taglinetickets, accommodation travel packages for major events
throughout the uk, europe and worldwide/h2
div id=content
h1Rugby World Cup 2007 Packages/h1
/div
Would I penalised for something like this?
My understanding would
Web Man:
It is one of lifes great mysteries (i.e. that is secret to Google), at what
point the value of H1 is diminished through (over) use. You are doing the
right thing by placing emphasis on the rugby world cup aspect.
The only time I expect to maybe see a clients name in an H1, is if is
James Jeffery wrote:
So basically what your trying to say is that branding is the least
important part
of the page, so place it in a p ?
no, I'm saying what the page is about is the most important, so put that
in the h1
take a multiple page site with branding on every page - after the
FWIW, my take would be:
//
div id=masthead
p id=headerimg id=logo alt=Glory Days src=images/GloryDays.gif /
tickets, accommodation travel packages for major events throughout the uk,
europe and worldwide
/p
h1 id=topicRugby World Cup 2007 Packages/h1
/div
Tony, while i can see your point, i dont agree. Nothing against your views
but its
the way you put a few things.
A search engine will not just search the by the H1, actually no-one actually
knows
how a search engine works, its a secret to the creator, but what we do know
is that
they make use of
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>James Jeffery wrote:A search engine will not just search the by the H1, actually no-one actually knowshow a search engine works, its a secret to the creator, but what we do know is that
they make use of all H* elements not just H1.I
tend to agree with James Jeffery on this one.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tend to agree with James Jeffery on this one. I just checked one of my
sites front page and found not a single h1, h2 or h3. Yet many of my key
words like 'group health insurance' or 'freedom blue ppo' show that site
on Google first page. Oh how I wish I knew how
Chris Taylor wrote:
can anyone explain why branding should be included in the page heading
hierarchy?
Its a matter of convention. When we write documents, we always put the
big heading up top and go down from there. Its simple habit. Of
course the branding shouldn't be an h1.
The
Joseph Taylor wrote:
this conversation says that I should probably
markup pages like:
div id=header
vcard content=for company name branding /
other header info /
/div
div id=content
h1My big page Heading/h1
content /
/div
Seems pretty straight forward. If the logo needs to be an
-Original Message-
From: Tony Crockford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Jun 27, 2007 8:44 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Page Structure
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tend to agree with James Jeffery on this one. I just checked one of my
sites front page and found not a
I use conditional code on my site - seems the best way to go if you want to
follow standards. Personally I just never had the patience to dive into
those A List Apart Flash Satay and other methods.
The general issue is that IE and all other browsers render Flash
differently. I've tested this
On 6/27/07, David Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a
QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas
would be very gratefully received!
I use this:
http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
Not sure about
In the past, I've set the company name or logo in an h2,
reserving the h1 for the actual page heading.
That'll only work if the page heading actually comes before the company
name, otherwise your heading hierarchy is broken.
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On Wed, June 27, 2007 5:17 pm, Tony Crockford wrote:
Add in some skip to links and I think you're onto a winner, as long as
the content doesn't get too far down the source.
But, if you have a skip to content link as the first link on the page
(or thereabouts), search engine bots will follow
Curious, what if you use this ?
h3emRugby World Cup 2007 Packages/em/h3
and also putting all important keywords in the title
I was asked recently by someone to tell her why with certain keywords
search, her site shows up in first page in google and yahoo.
This person has no html and web
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