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From: Web Dandy Design [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 May 2007 11:27
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org'
Subject: RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Hi,
A couple of links that maybe useful:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pdf_accessibility
http
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Sent: 10 May 2007 00:08
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Jermayn asked:
and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible???
There are some pointers here
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs
Hi,
You can use this code to open the pdf in a new window ...
a link target=_blank href=pdf file name(eg:
OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.Nov.2006.pdf)click
here/a
Thanks
On 5/9/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi group,
This may only relate to Western
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Hi,
You can use this code to open the pdf in a new window ...
a link target=_blank href=pdf file name(eg:
OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.Nov.2006.pdf)click
here/a
Thanks
On 5/9/07
May, 2007 12:11 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
I believe what Jermayn is asking to keep the web standards intact, without
opening a new window, as accessibility doesnt allow us to open pages in new
window.
suggestions ?
regards
-P
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, 2007 15:06 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Unfortunately, using JavaScript to insert such links is no more than a fudge
- you cannot rely on JavaScript being turned off in a screen-reader users
browser, and this cannot be regarded as 'unobtrusive
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:27 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Hi Mike,
I think there is a misunderstanding here. Removing the
onclick event
Perhaps I did not make myself clear - what every script of this nature
does is remove the need for an 'inline' onClick event handler, by
programmatically inserting the exact same handler after the document has
loaded, by searching for some attribute of the link. While this does a
good job of
more ridiculous.
Regards,
Mike
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The script can do much more than
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
The script can do much more than just adding the event. It can add a
title attribute, plug an icon or even add some text within the anchor
tags. That way the info about the behavior is plugged only if the
behavior is available.
Frank Palinkas wrote:
You can find more
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Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
The script can do much more than just adding the event. It
can add a title
attribute, plug an icon or even add some text within the anchor tags.
That way the info about the behavior is plugged only if the
behavior is
available
how do you make the pdf accessible???
I guess it probably depends if it has unencrypted text in it...
some pdf's might only contain images or other stuff...
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Sent: 09 May 2007 10:30
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how do you make the pdf accessible???
I guess
Jermayn asked:
and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible???
There are some pointers here
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/CreateAccessibleAdvanced.pdf
Kerry
(noting the accessibility is relative, not absolute - so probably I
should have said more accessible)
: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Jermayn asked:
and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible???
There are some pointers here
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/CreateAccessibleAdvanced.pdf
Kerry
(noting the accessibility is relative, not absolute - so probably I should
have said
I have a page that has links to a pdf and the client wanted to know
whether it can be linked to a new window or not. They dont really care
about best practises etc but rather what the state Internet guidlines
are. I have looked through the 107 page doco but cannot find anything.
no idea about
Jermayn,
I think that it really depends on the end user. I know that any .pdf I
open within my copy of Firefox or Safari will always open up a
separate instance of Acrobat Reader or OSX Preview.app anyway (= new
window). It might have something to do with how Acrobat Reader is
installed by the
Hi Jermayn
When in doubt, look to AGIMO and what they recommend. Mostly, they
recommend us looking at W3C, and our obligation there is to fulfil at
least the level one priorities. W3C tells us to avoid opening new
windows as far as is possible (can't remember which priority level that
is!).
Karl and mdagn
yes we do have some publications that are currently in html format and
going through the state guidlines I found a reference about html and pdf
copies as pdf is not accessible (word is), so im think we may just do
that even though the five odd publications are 60 plus pages each...
Why not let the user decide if they want a new window or not? It is
generally a bad idea for accessibility.
National Australian standards also cover WA, HREOC standards which
follow WCAG Guidelines.
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#wc-priority-1
Guideline 10. Use interim solutions
Tamara,
I never look to AGIMO except to see what they are mucking up.
A review of their Finance and Gov pages These AGIMO pages are a bit
ordinary for accessibility.
http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Publishing/AustWeb.html#agmio
I never look to AGIMO, except to wonder what low
Jermayn
You might want to consider posting the question to the WA Online Services
Interest Group
http://www.dpc.wa.gov.au/psmd/osig/osig.html
It is a very low traffic mailing list for WA public sector. A number of the
people involved in the development of the guidelines are on that list.
The
Nick wrote:
I would disagree. I believe the pdf and word issue dates back to 1999 or so,
when you needed to upgrade to the latest and greatest of JAWS at considerable
cost to fully access pdfs. Things have changed in 8 years. Now you can access
pdfs with almost any screenreader (that is
and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible???
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/05/2007 12:50:25 pm
Nick wrote:
I would disagree. I believe the pdf and word issue dates back to 1999
or so, when you needed to upgrade to the latest and greatest of JAWS at
considerable cost to fully access pdfs. Things
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