[wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
Has ANYONE successfully deployed WSJT-X on an Icom IC-7700, using the Icom RS-BA1 software for the virtual serial porting via the ethernet port on the rig? For those not aware, the 7700 has no conventional bidirectional USB ports to couple a PC; the only way to allow a PC app to interface via the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 01:56, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel wrote: I'm reading Rx<---Tx as change the Tx frequency to the Rx frequency, move 1810 to 1409 in this example. Hi Bill, the direction of the arrow is from Tx to Rx i.e. the Tx frequency moves to the Rx. This is a long discussed issue which is

Re: [wsjt-devel] Help WSJT-X FT857D NAVIGATOR Modem

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 02:27, Charles Otnott via wsjt-devel wrote: I am using the WSJT-X v1.9.1, a Yeasu FT-857D Hi Charlie, first you must help us, what is not working, what error messages are you getting? 73 Bill G4WJS.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Double click on DX station fails

2018-07-03 Thread Saku
Joe Taylor kirjoitti 02.07.2018 klo 18:10: There's no need to shut down WSJT-X and restart.  If you want to change calls, first hit F4 to clear the DX Call and DX Grid boxes and message fields. -- 73, Joe, K1JT Just be aware that if you have focus on object bandComboBox F4 will NOT

[wsjt-devel] Re FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Rich - K1HTV
Mark, All excellent suggestions for the development crew to seriously consider. If suggestion #4 is implemented, I'd suggest that an initial Tx tone frequency between 1000 and 2000 Hz be randomly generated, rather than a fixed 1900 Hz tone. I've had excellent luck working KH1/KH7Z using

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread dgb
Only to those that don't take the little time to see how they work! On 7/3/2018 10:38 AM, Al Pawlowski wrote: If a count was taken, I bet it would be 10 to 1 or more that think the button arrows are backwards. Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:08:57 +0100 From: Barry Smith To:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
I would typically just send "DE VE7AFZ" as a free message at low power to ID while tuning. In my view the auto tuner just needs some low power (so the relays don't "hot switch" at higher the necessary power) RF at the appropriate frequency to complete the tuning process. The free message

Re: [wsjt-devel] Manually entering a frequency enables TX in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Perfect. Thanks 73 Mark S VE7AFZ On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:51 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: > On 03/07/2018 23:46, Mark Spencer wrote: > > While running in Hound mode, if I manually enter a frequency into the into > the frequency dialog box (above the RX level indicator) the program enables > TX

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 23:59, m.weiss--- via wsjt-devel wrote: I already use that link arrangement, but my computer remembers that location in the User subdirectory.  Whenever I then go to upload to LOTW, I have to move the file selection to the DX4WIN logging directory.  I’d like to be able to tell

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
Not daft at all, Tom. While we're still pursuing a completely LAN-transported audio/CAT solution, I now have a borrowed Icom USB-CT17 FTDI (USB type-A to miniplug) cable enroute in order to affect a HW workaround. Film at 11, as the newscasters say. I'm having to add a Y-cable, since the CAT

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Neil Zampella
John, My bad .. I was going on what Dave had at the top of this URL: http://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/ConnectingIcom Neil On 7/3/2018 7:55 PM, John Zantek wrote: Neil…there’s no bidirectional USB type-B port on a 7700.  The DX Commander doc doesn’t include the 7700. The two type-B

Re: [wsjt-devel] Managing Frequencies in WSTJ-X for FT8.

2018-07-03 Thread Neilatv via wsjt-devel
Hello Bill: Thank you for the informative reply. I can work with your solution. Nonetheless, regardless of what folks are doing with frequencies in WSJT-X, it would still be helpful to differentiate standard from non-standard frequencies even when not using the fox/hounds features. Perhaps

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Neil Zampella
Bill, Thanks ... always learning something new.  Need to file this one away. Neil On 7/3/2018 7:50 PM, Bill Somerville wrote: On 04/07/2018 00:39, Neil Zampella wrote: I don't think that Hamlib or Omnirig uses UDP packets to control the rig, its more a bidirectional serial interface,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Managing Frequencies in WSTJ-X for FT8

2018-07-03 Thread egruff
How about a Quick Add button for DXpedition frequencies? Seems like an easy way to do it. Going into the menus is a bit awkward, but certainly not something we can't all do., but anytime we can streamline common functions, it seems to be worthy of consideration. Eric NC6K

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Peter Sumner
Hello John and maybe others who might be interested. a simple chinese built multi pupose interface might be you saving grace for your Icom 7700, I use them on multiple Icom rigs, (7600, 910, 275H, 475H etc). Look for "2018 U5 USB PC linker" on ebay (may ned to set your setting to world wide)

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Take, On 7/3/2018 8:03 PM, Tsutsumi Takehiko JA5AEA wrote: Joe, Just “listened and watched the show“??? I saw a critical message last night on a Japanese SNS that KH1/KH7Z FT8 OP should pay their respect to K1JT repeated calls and must promptly return RR73. Never fear, I have worked

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi David and all, You should know that CW ID cannot be used with any FT8 transmission. The blank interval (only ~2 seconds) at the end of an FT8 transmission is much too short for a callsign at 25 WPM. Sending it at 60 WPM does not seem very useful, either. -- Joe, K1JT On

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
Neil…there’s no bidirectional USB type-B port on a 7700. The DX Commander doc doesn’t include the 7700. The two type-B connections on the back of the rig are ‘borrowed’ by the Icom engineers for audio connections only.

[wsjt-devel] Icom and Yaesu CAT USB Interface

2018-07-03 Thread Rick
Good evening John, Please take a look at the article I wrote a while back regarding your own CAT interface for Icom and Yaesu radios: http://www.w4gso.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/feedline0408.pdf 73, Rick NM3G (formerly WB3EXR) > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 07:16:09 -0700 > From:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 04/07/2018 00:39, Neil Zampella wrote: I don't think that Hamlib or Omnirig uses UDP packets to control the rig, its more a bidirectional serial interface, sending ascii or hex.    That said, I know that DX Commander can control the IC-7700 using a USB conection. Neil, USB connections to

Re: [wsjt-devel] Manually entering a frequency enables TX in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 23:46, Mark Spencer wrote: While running in Hound mode, if I manually enter a frequency into the into the frequency dialog box (above the RX level indicator) the program enables TX mode (as soon as I press the enter key.) If I disable Hound mode, this behavior disappears.  The

Re: [wsjt-devel] Managing Frequencies in WSTJ-X for FT8.

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 04/07/2018 00:20, Neilatv via wsjt-devel wrote: Hello: Now that we manually add frequencies (on the Frequencies panel) when attempting to work DXPeditions, it would be ideal if in both the Frequency Edit panel and the main panel that the published “FT8 standard” frequencies have a

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Tsutsumi Takehiko
Joe, Just “listened and watched the show“??? I saw a critical message last night on a Japanese SNS that KH1/KH7Z FT8 OP should pay their respect to K1JT repeated calls and must promptly return RR73. This is just my back-of-the envelope calculation, but the link-budget improvement can be

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread David Tiller
The 'tune' button will help with tuning, but not ID-ing. At least in the US (and maybe also in Canada), it's always legal to ID using CW regardless of the mode used for comms - you could use your key/keyer to ID, or have a preset in your rig that fires off your callsign. There is/was a CW ID

[wsjt-devel] Fwd: Re FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread David Kaplan
Rich and Mark, The one thing these ideas don’t cover is to make sure that the hound is using the frequency for the Expedition, and not the normal subband frequency…of course you can only lead a person so far… they do need to take some responsibility for proper operating procedures... 73,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx (dgb)

2018-07-03 Thread Dave
> Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:38:15 -0500 > From: dgb > To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Only to those that don't take the little time to see how they work! > > ​You're

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
True, but with a rig that has an Ethernet port, more hardware shouldn't be necessary.  I know the Flex 6xxx works well with WSJT-X via the network.  I guess we need someone to clone the code so that it uses Icom's CAT commands and IP ports. It's not a Fortran thing, so I don't have that

[wsjt-devel] IC-7700 Serial Over LAN - The untold story (well, it WAS untold)

2018-07-03 Thread Rick
Good evening John, (BTW, I tried to respond to your posted e-mail address, and the entire internet sneezed. It's a mess I tell you) I used to explain to people that search engines such as Google could offer them some needed information much faster than asking a group of people on a news

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
Tnx, Neil, and I agree that there are HW workarounds to accomplish the goal. I’m just still amazed that additional HW would be needed, given that the IC-7700 has a fully functional LAN port and firmware server. I’ve even found some Youtube videos “claiming” that third party apps like FLDigi,

[wsjt-devel] Manually entering a frequency enables TX in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi: Thanks again for a great program. While running in Hound mode, if I manually enter a frequency into the into the frequency dialog box (above the RX level indicator) the program enables TX mode (as soon as I press the enter key.) If I disable Hound mode, this behavior disappears. The radio

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Neil Zampella
John, I don't think that Hamlib or Omnirig uses UDP packets to control the rig, its more a bidirectional serial interface, sending ascii or hex.    That said, I know that DX Commander can control the IC-7700 using a USB conection. Check this url:

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread m.weiss--- via wsjt-devel
Tnx, Bill, for the information. I already use that link arrangement, but my computer remembers that location in the User subdirectory. Whenever I then go to upload to LOTW, I have to move the file selection to the DX4WIN logging directory. I'd like to be able to tell WSJT-X to use that same

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread George J Molnar
Would changing the arrows to an equals sign solve the problem? George J Molnar, KF2T Virginia, USA > On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:38 PM, dgb wrote: > > Only to those that don't take the little time to see how they work! > > >> On 7/3/2018 10:38 AM, Al Pawlowski wrote: >> If a count was taken, I

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-7700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I've already sent them a patched version that hopefully will work over the UDP port to the IC-7700. Had to patch WSJT-X and hamlib both. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 4:20:39 PM CDT, John Zantek wrote: Tnx, Neil, and I agree that there are HW workarounds to accomplish

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 16:59, m.weiss--- via wsjt-devel wrote: _Location of adif log file_ I regularly import wsjtx_log.adi into my DX4WIN log.  I would like to be able to select the computer directory into which the wsjt-x adif log file is to be saved. Perhaps the program could cause the log

Re: [wsjt-devel] IC-7700 Serial Over LAN - The untold story (well, it WAS untold)

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
Yep, did exactly that before I came to the WSJT-X group, where I’ve subscribed for a long time and always knew the correct answer would be forthcoming. If you’ll notice, George also failed to establish CAT control with a 3rd party application. In his case, he was attempting with FLDigi. He

[wsjt-devel] Managing Frequencies in WSTJ-X for FT8.

2018-07-03 Thread Neilatv via wsjt-devel
Hello: Now that we manually add frequencies (on the Frequencies panel) when attempting to work DXPeditions, it would be ideal if in both the Frequency Edit panel and the main panel that the published “FT8 standard” frequencies have a different background and/or font to differentiate them from

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Neil Zampella
If I remember right, the CW ID is not implemented for FT8, as it would then Tx into the next time slice.  There's only a second between the end of the FT8 transmission and the end of the Tx period.   In JT65/JT9 you have a bit more time. Neil, KN3ILZ On 7/3/2018 3:01 PM, David Tiller wrote:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom and Yaesu CAT USB Interface

2018-07-03 Thread Bill Somerville
On 03/07/2018 23:44, John Zantek wrote: I’m still stubbornly insisting additional hardware isn’t necessary for an IC-7700 with an Ethernet port that is already proven to have full CAT control via a network, even though it’s only with Icom’s software. There’s something else missing and I’m

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
According to the manual there is a DB-9 connector for CAT control.Just need a USB adapter since the 7700 is already in WSJT-X with serial port control. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, 2:17:38 AM CDT, John Zantek wrote: Has ANYONE successfully deployed WSJT-X on an Icom

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
On 7/3/2018 9:47 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: That sounds like a jolly good ideabut why only 7dB improvement? Wouldn't you recover all the loss from 5 slots=-14dB? No. With one signal handling 5 QSOs the information payload must be increased from 72 to nearly 360 bits. The

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Fred Carvalho
Hi John and all John I have also monitored 40mts this morning for a long period and I have seen your qso. This time I watched what was expected. It was the first time I could qso, calling above 3000Hz. It seemed that in other activities that I have participated (30m and 20m) the Fox was not

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Grant -- I understand your story -- and of course the way the link budget depends on the number of slots in use. I do not think that making Fox weaker (i.e., always 20 W per signal) is likely to increase QSO rate. Better that Fox and Hound operators should take note of signal reports each

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Grant Willis
Joe, Thanks for the reply. Yes it seemed to be going pretty well today on 40m (although the pileup was immense). Looked like definitely 100+ QSO/hr was being achieved which is faster than they were managing on RTTY on 40m the night before. Your idea of changing the fox signal to a different

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Grant, Take, and all, I think the Fox operators are learning to manage their pileups reasonably well. I listened and watched the show on 40m this morning for ~2.5 hours, with good signals from Fox. The Op was doing a good job: he was using 2 slots, thereby keeping the queue moderately

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
That sounds like a jolly good ideabut why only 7dB improvement?  Wouldn't you recover all the loss from 5 slots=-14dB? And how about increasing to 600Hz width and 10 slots?  Another 2X would probably be worth it and still stay below 1000 offset. Just think of how many QSOs they could have

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Surely you jest...nobody reading directionslarge % calling in the blindand they are going to learn how to control themselves based on sig reports and slots?  Not only do the majority not understand how slots affects anything but they won't care either. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday,

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread Barry Smith
In message <7afbe4de-7cc2-5201-c08c-ee8d44651...@classdesign.com> Bill Somerville wrote: > On 03/07/2018 01:56, Bill Turner via wsjt-devel wrote: >> I'm reading Rx<---Tx as change the Tx frequency to the Rx frequency, >> move 1810 to 1409 in this example. > Hi Bill, > the direction

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Joe Taylor
Mike -- On 7/3/2018 10:43 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Surely you jest...nobody reading directionslarge % calling in the blindand they are going to learn how to control themselves based on sig reports and slots?  Not only do the majority not understand how slots affects

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread John Zantek
You would think it’s that simple, but no. Icom’s required CT-17 level-converter, at $139, only works with an RS-232 connection on the PC. USB-9pin converters are evidently not supported. Very frustrating. This was a top of the line rig not too long ago. Built-in Ethernet. Built-in RTTY

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Steven Franke via wsjt-devel
Mike, Surely, those who really want to work the DX will take time to learn how to do it. The others will be frustrated and will eventually quit. Along the way, the clueless will also cause some QRM. That’s how it works in CW, SSB, and RTTY pileups, and I don’t expect FT8 to be any different.

[wsjt-devel] FT-8 DXpedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread m.weiss--- via wsjt-devel
Hello WSJT-X developers.. This not a bug report. I'm sending this email to share a couple of thoughts that might enhance the already fine program. DXpedition Mode It is apparent to me that many hams have difficulty in understanding the settings changes that must be implemented in

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
I'm sorry I don't own a 7700 so I can't be of much help with this but I have been able to get all my other ICOM HF radios that have CI-V ports to work with WSJT-x via various USB to CI-V converters. I have never used the ICOM level converter so I can't comment regarding that approach.

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Neil Zampella
John, I was using my IC-718 with full CAT control without the CT-17 using a cable from XGGCOMMS.com ... this one looks like the one you need: **Icom CAT IC-Cable-7-USB-ISO** The interface offers full USB CAT Control and 600:600 Ohm transformer isolated audio interfacing of your Icom

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread August Treubig
There is a Tune button on the far right Sent from my iPad > On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Mark Spencer wrote: > > Hi: > I've enjoyed watching the pile ups over the last few days while using hound > mode. Thanks to the development team for this mode. > > > I don't spend much time on HF and

[wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi: I've enjoyed watching the pile ups over the last few days while using hound mode. Thanks to the development team for this mode. I don't spend much time on HF and when I do I typically use a vertical antenna fed with an auto tuner. So when changing bands I need to feed RF into the auto

Re: [wsjt-devel] Icom IC-700/RS-BA1/WSJT-X

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/3/2018 7:16 AM, John Zantek wrote: You would think it’s that simple, but no.  Icom’s required CT-17 level-converter, at $139, only works with an RS-232 connection on the PC.  USB-9pin converters are evidently not supported. There have been some good designs for replacements for the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-07-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/3/2018 6:24 AM, Joe Taylor wrote: I think the Fox operators are learning to manage their pileups reasonably well.  I listened and watched the show on 40m this morning for ~2.5 hours, with good signals from Fox.  The Op was doing a good job: he was using 2 slots, thereby keeping the queue

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread Al Pawlowski
If a count was taken, I bet it would be 10 to 1 or more that think the button arrows are backwards. Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:08:57 +0100 From: Barry Smith To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx ...There are as many people who think the

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tx/Rx

2018-07-03 Thread Jay Hainline
Replace the arrows with the word "to" and then it makes sense. At least it does to me. ;-) 73 Jay. KA9CFD Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone Original message From: Al Pawlowski Date: 7/3/18 10:38 (GMT-06:00) To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Tuning in Hound mode

2018-07-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Yes I am aware of the tune button. My comment concerns sending my call sign for station ID purposes. Thanks 73 Mark Spencer VE7AFZ netsyn...@gmail.com > On Jul 3, 2018, at 11:13 AM, August Treubig wrote: > > There is a Tune button on the far right > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jul 3,