Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts. Also check

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated about the licensing, so check here for the facts. Also check out the

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:26:23AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 02:39:01AM -0500, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: Also check the LICENSE document http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/pre-4.4/LICENSE.html. There is a lot of FUD being circulated

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Aidan Kehoe
Ar an 18ú lá de mí 2, scríobh David Dawes : Lets face it: Your real objection is to giving credit to XFree86 and its contributors. GPL-incompatibility and FUD about FSF-freeness(*) of the modified licence is just a poor excuse. I think it's unfair to assume that, David, especially since

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Diego Calleja
El Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:01:13 -0500 David Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Don't rely on the FUD being circulated by people who can barely hide their prejudice. Go straight to the definitive sources on licensing issues, namely the FSF and the OSI, and come to your own conclusions. Well, if

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DD [XFree86] was not, as a whole, FSF-free before the change, let DD alone GPL-compatible. Same after the change. But then XFree86 DD has never factored in those two licensing criteria. That's not quite the point, David. Of the many reasons for which I was happy to contribute my work to

Crashing Xvfb

2004-02-18 Thread Paul Millar
Hi, [I hope this is the right forum for this ...] I'm using the Xvfb from XFree86 as a dummy server for regression testing WINE. A recently added conformance/regression test causes Xvfb to consistently seg-fault. I've tried rebuilding Xvfb with the CVS HEAD version (as of 2004-02-17). The

Re: Crashing Xvfb

2004-02-18 Thread Jeff Epler
Paul, for what it's worth, I've also noticed wine apps killing Xvfb. This was with redhat 9's XFree86-Xvfb-4.3.0-2. We ended up changing from Xvfb to vncserver, both for this reason and because an error condition can require user intervention with our wine app. I don't have any better test

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 04:19:31PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: DD [XFree86] was not, as a whole, FSF-free before the change, let DD alone GPL-compatible. Same after the change. But then XFree86 DD has never factored in those two licensing criteria. That's not quite the point, David. Of

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:30:35AM +, Aidan Kehoe wrote: Ar an 18ú lá de mí 2, scríobh David Dawes : Lets face it: Your real objection is to giving credit to XFree86 and its contributors. GPL-incompatibility and FUD about FSF-freeness(*) of the modified licence is just a poor excuse.

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Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
It was okay for Debian or FreeBSD to grab a routine that I wrote, as it was for Apple or Microsoft. DD They still can use your code, because *you* choose the licence for DD your code. And you choose one for yours, and Mark for his? The situation is going to become mighty confused. Are you

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 08:30:48PM +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: It was okay for Debian or FreeBSD to grab a routine that I wrote, as it was for Apple or Microsoft. DD They still can use your code, because *you* choose the licence for DD your code. And you choose one for yours, and Mark for

Re: [forum] Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Marc Evans
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 09:30:35AM +, Aidan Kehoe wrote: There have been almost no expressions of support for this change, and coherent objections from many of those whose contributions matter to the project. I'm surprised you're still going ahead

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
DD Even FreeType requires something in the documentation I know that. I disagree with FreeType's licensing as much as I disagree with the new XFree86 license, and I have told David Turner what I think about it. David, the fact that other people use silly licensing terms does not mean that we

i855GM: New BIOS breaks i810-driver

2004-02-18 Thread Christian Zietz
Hi, as developer of 855patch I get a lot of feedback from people using XFree86 on computers with i855GM graphics. It seems like new notebooks by Dell feature a new video BIOS from Intel (iirc Build 3066) which finally implements the int 0x10 0x5f11 function to set the amount of video RAM and thus

typo in 4.4.0 pre-Release Notes, font style comment

2004-02-18 Thread John Himpel
I found the link to the DocBook pre-release note for 4.4 on XFree86.org http://www.xfree86.org/~jwhimpel/html/ReleaseNotes-Smm-of-Upd.html says: On Darwin, IOKit mode now used shadowfb for must faster drawing. I think that should be now uses shadowfb for much faster drawing. Since I'm

Re: XFree86 4.4.0 RC3

2004-02-18 Thread Kean Johnston
My point all along has been that the XFree86 licensing policy has not changed. If it is bad now, it was bad before. Why wasn't anyone complaining before? I hope my FQDN does not negatively impact my remarks but ... if no-one was complaining before why are you so determined to change the

Re: [Fonts] freetype module sometimes gets font height (descent?)

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Lampe
I think that this problem is related to FreeType's additional font properties. Try xfd command, xfd -fn -monotype-courier new-medium-r-normal--13-0-100-100-m-0-iso8859-1 and check the differences of ascent and descent between xtt and freetype. Perhaps no difference will be seen. Indeed, I

[XFree86] Server X Probleme

2004-02-18 Thread jean-christophe valiere
Hello, I was using XFree 4.2.0 on my i386 computer with a radeon 7500 Video Driver and a Hitachi CM2096ME Monitor (H Freq/ V Freq: 30-82 Khz / 50-120 hz). I decided last week to update to XFree 4.3.0 and the X doesn't start ant more. It seems that

[XFree86] Xwindow Configure

2004-02-18 Thread karthik vasudev
Respected Sir, I'm working as a Lab assistant in Sri Krishna Engineering College coimbatore. Last week one machine doesn't enter in Graphical mode. Xserver failure message frequenlty shown in the screen. How we solve this problem.Please suggest Imediately. Thanking You, Mail :

Re: [XFree86] 2xVoodoo3/Banshe causes crash.

2004-02-18 Thread Aivils . Stoss
Hi, people. I'm trying to get a dualhead-configuration up and running with two Voodoo3/Banshee cards, one is made by Creative and is a PCI- card and the other is a 3DFX AGP-card with tv-out, the MB is a Abit BX6 rev 2.0 and I think I have tried altering almost every BIOS- settings I could find.

[XFree86] Omnibook HP500: The supplier suggests damages to the screen cause of XFree????

2004-02-18 Thread Corrado Topi
One of my students today damaged the screen of his laptop. He reported the supplier of his notebook has told him that the damage to the screen has been caused by partitioning the disk and using Mandrake 9.2 (that is, XFree). The notebook was sold with Windows XP (Home edition, I think). Have

[XFree86] keyboard switching

2004-02-18 Thread Yan Seiner
I'm a total keyboard newbie; I've been struggling with this for a while. I've read the manpage and the READMEs in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb to no avail. I need to switch between Japanese and US keyboard layouts. For some reason, setxkbmap won't let me use any other layout if I specify the 'jp'

Re: [XFree86] MultiHead support for Intel 855GM

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan McLean
I believe that if the laptop can support two monitors, meaning that, in windows atleast, you can use two monitors with it, then you can support dual head. In my experience, as long as the gfx card has two outputs, it should support dual head. --- Christopher Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoth

[XFree86] Réf. : Re: [XFree86] MultiHead support for Intel 855GM

2004-02-18 Thread Nicolas MARC
Yes, I855 supports 2 outputs. I your case you should have a video pipe to the LVDS output (flat panel) and the other one to a VGA output. Maybe the best is to check your Bios or the manufacturer's documentation... To use dual head anyway, you need patches to agpgart driver (until kernel 2.6 I

[XFree86] Monitor help

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan McLean
Okay, so i was having a problem with my mac monitor and a person suggested to use the Option CrtcNumber 1. Well, in deleted the email by accident and i dont remember what section it goes under in my XF86Config file. Also, i brought my XF86COnfig-4 file back to its supposedly original setup and

Re: [XFree86] Réf._:_Re:_[XFree86]_MultiHead_support_for_Intel 855GM

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan McLean
check out this website for a sample XF86config file http://www-crypto.htw-saarland.de/weber/misc/linux/XF86Config-2410.twin --- Nicolas MARC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I855 supports 2 outputs. I your case you should have a video pipe to the LVDS output (flat panel) and the other one to a

Re: [XFree86] Monitor help

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
Jonathan McLean wrote: Also, i brought my XF86COnfig-4 file back to its supposedly original setup and normally it would boot startx and the mac monitor wouldnt work. Now i get an error stating that no device is loaded and that no screens are found: (II) v4l driver for Video4Linux (II)

Re: [XFree86] Server X Probleme

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
jean-christophe valiere wrote: I decided last week to update to XFree 4.3.0 and the X doesn't start ant more. It seems that the radeon driver fail to work with my Monitor. Here is the Error: Screen(s) found but none of them has a usable configuration.

Re: [XFree86] Can't open display

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
Matthieu Herrb wrote: Many Linux distributions ships X with '-nolisten tcp' as the default option. This means that the X server won't accept remote connections. You need to use ssh X11 forwarding to connect remote applications in this case. I don't know if this is the case for fedora. Fedora

Re: [XFree86] Réf. : Re: [XFree86] MultiHead support for Intel 855GM

2004-02-18 Thread Luca Capello
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, on 02/18/04 14:03, Nicolas MARC wrote: Yes, I855 supports 2 outputs. I your case you should have a video pipe to the LVDS output (flat panel) and the other one to a VGA output. Maybe the best is to check your Bios or the manufacturer's

[XFree86] XFree86.log flooded with Not loading .note.GNU-stack

2004-02-18 Thread NUKE THEM
Hi, this message appears over 500 times in my XFree86.log. I googled and found I'm not the only one with this messageflood. But I found no responses telling: What does this message mean? How can I solve the problem? How can I tell the X to do a last message repeated xyz-times instead of making

Re: [XFree86] Error - No screens found

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
Technical Team wrote: Recently I have installed Redhat 9 and mandrake 9 on my system. But after completing the installation part, I am not able to get into GUI mode as the error message says that No Screen Found. Please do not send any followups to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as that mailing list

Re: [XFree86] Monitor help

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan McLean
Okay, i do not have anyone who can teach me hand son about linux, and so im still stumbling along. I cannot access the file with another computer because i cannot save it as a txt file. This is what i was going to do: save my log as a txt file, copy it to a floppy, bring it to a windows machine,

Re: [XFree86] Monitor help

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
Jonathan McLean wrote: Okay, i do not have anyone who can teach me hand son about linux, and so im still stumbling along. I cannot access the file with another computer because i cannot save it as a txt file. This is what i was going to do: save my log as a txt file, copy it to a floppy,

Re: [XFree86] XFree86.log flooded with Not loading .note.GNU-stack

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
NUKE THEM wrote: this message appears over 500 times in my XFree86.log. I googled and found I'm not the only one with this messageflood. But I found no responses telling: What does this message mean? How can I solve the problem? The message is generate because you are using a binary

Re: [XFree86] Monitor help

2004-02-18 Thread Jonathan McLean
Mr. Taylor, I just want to thank you for all of your help, it has been some of the most useful i have recieved since i began my linux expedition. Anyways, here is an attached copy of my log file that may allow people to see why i have no devices detected. -- Michael Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[XFree86] X-server problems

2004-02-18 Thread jjag1
I am trying to install RedHat Linux 7.0 on my KDS notebook. The installation went fine, except for the X-Server. It seems that 7.0 did not support my combination of hardware, so I decided to update my X-Server. I downloaded and installed 4.0.2 libc22 then 4.0.3 libc22. I am enclosing the log

[XFree86] Debugging help needed

2004-02-18 Thread Anders Johansson
Hi, I have a problem with the X server that I'd like very much to track down, or help track down but I'm absolutely clueless how to debug it. Any help anyone can offer would be deeply appreciated. Symptoms: at irregular intervals, the X server will spin up to 100% cpu usage. during this time,

Re: [XFree86] X-server problems

2004-02-18 Thread Alan Hourihane
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 11:44:49AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install RedHat Linux 7.0 on my KDS notebook. The installation went fine, except for the X-Server. It seems that 7.0 did not support my combination of hardware, so I decided to update my X-Server. I downloaded

Re: [XFree86] X-server problems

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install RedHat Linux 7.0 on my KDS notebook. The installation went fine, except for the X-Server. It seems that 7.0 did not support my combination of hardware, so I decided to update my X-Server. I downloaded and installed 4.0.2 libc22 then 4.0.3

Re: [XFree86] Debugging help needed

2004-02-18 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 12:07 -0500, Michael Taylor wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: I've been running the default X server in suse 8.2 and 9.0 with this problem, and I recently installed 4.4 RC3 from xfree86.org in the hopes that it would solve it, but the problem remains. I really want

Re: [XFree86] Debugging help needed

2004-02-18 Thread Anders Johansson
On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 18:19 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: I haven't tried twm or fvwm, but I'll do that now It just happened again under fvwm. I don't think it's a wm problem ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [XFree86] Debugging help needed

2004-02-18 Thread Mark Vojkovich
That's usually a video card driver problem or problem with a related driver (like AGP drivers). If you run the server under GDB you can get a backtrace and see where it's hung at. Mark. On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, Anders Johansson wrote: Hi, I have a problem with the X

[XFree86] black colored things

2004-02-18 Thread Sebastian Nauroth
hello, I use two monitors and graphic cards at one computer. the graphic cards are a elsa victory erazor and an creative blaster tnt2 vanta. xfree86 use the drivewr riva128 and nv1 and that was ok! but now I have black/colored menus and bars and fonts on my erazor! I came to the problem throug

Re: [XFree86] 2xVoodoo3/Banshe causes crash.

2004-02-18 Thread Mattias Sundberg
Neither of it did help. It still crashes without a logfile. I reckon it has something to do with my BIOS-settings or MB chipset. When I tried to startx using only the PCI-card (my BIOS boots up with the AGP-card) and disabled all Video BIOS and Video RAM caching the Video BIOS version showed

[XFree86] Resolution

2004-02-18 Thread David Hansen Jr.
I recently moved from Red Hat 9 to Fedora 1. In RH, my resolution colors were fine. I had 1024x768 in 24-bit. When I moved to Fedora, When I try to run XFree86 in the same settings, it locks. The best I can do is 1024x768 in 8-bit. I've got an ATI Radeon 7000 (64MB) and a DigiView 17

[XFree86] agpart lost! (was Matrox G550 and acceleration)

2004-02-18 Thread Lionel Lecoq
Hi, my problem with my graphic card seems to be that for some reason agpart is not available anymore! I don't remember whether it should be loaded in the kernel at boot time (in that case I don't remember the file in which to intervene... Alzeimer I guess) or whether it suffices to include it

[XFree86] X SERVER CRASH PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

2004-02-18 Thread Meenakshi Nadar
Hello there this is meenakshi from pune (INDIA) today i was working on linux, when suddenly while accessing the windows partition from linux , all the devices mouse, keyboard stopped responding and when i restarted my computer the GUI is not there and the message X server could not be started

Re: [XFree86] Resolution

2004-02-18 Thread Michael Taylor
David Hansen Jr. wrote: I recently moved from Red Hat 9 to Fedora 1. In RH, my resolution colors were fine. I had 1024x768 in 24-bit. When I moved to Fedora, When I try to run XFree86 in the same settings, it locks. The best I can do is 1024x768 in 8-bit. I've got an ATI Radeon 7000

[XFree86] XFree86 4.3.x: ValueUnion and loaded variable names

2004-02-18 Thread Kelledin
While compiling XFree86-4.3.0.1 recently, I got the following error message: In file included from text-mode.c:47: loader.h:78: warning: ISO C doesn't support unnamed structs/unions loader.h:78: unnamed fields of type other than struct or

[XFree86] video card question...

2004-02-18 Thread ruben
Does X windows support the Diamond Stealth PCI S3 Trio64 card???

[XFree86] cirrus gd7548 + mmio does not work

2004-02-18 Thread Matt Eaton
I recently required an old gateway 2000 solo laptop. It has a cirrus logic gd 7548 video card. Using the 'cirrus' driver and XFree86 4.2.1 the default video driver options cause an X server lockup when any X clients connect. The workaround I've gotten is to disable MMIO. But this sacrifices

[XFree86] (no subject)

2004-02-18 Thread HdrCyt1
I have the same card. Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM S3 Trio64 on my older Pentium Pro 200 Mhz machine. I am new to Linux but I can tell you that I can not seem to get this card to work with XFree864.3, XFree86 4.1 or XFree86 3.3. Now, I have tried the textmode install and that doesn't seem to work.

[XFree86] current locale is not supported in X11, locate is set to CX

2004-02-18 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi, I've got a Mandrake9.2 installation which has been running fine for many months. However I am now getting this message when starting any java gui app (eg jedit): [EMAIL PROTECTED] xsltmap]$ jedit current locale is not supported in X11, locale is set to CX locale modifiers are not supported,

[XFree86] TFT brighter on the bottom

2004-02-18 Thread Federico Pinal Moreira
I've connected a TFT monitor to mi PC running Debian GNU/Linux and, after having configured XFree86 at 1280x1024 as the manual said, I noticed that the image was brighter and distorted on its lower end. May it be the vertical frequency was wrong? I don't remember if I tried 60Hz or only 75Hz.

Re: [XFree86] current locale is not supported in X11, locate is set to CX

2004-02-18 Thread Simon Kitching
On Fri, 2004-02-20 at 01:40, Simon Kitching wrote: Hi, I've got a Mandrake9.2 installation which has been running fine for many months. However I am now getting this message when starting any java gui app (eg jedit): [EMAIL PROTECTED] xsltmap]$ jedit current locale is not supported in

[XFree86] Re: i810 fails to set refresh rate above 60hz

2004-02-18 Thread Ryan Bedwell
I'm running Fedora Core (XFree86 4.3.0) on a Dell Dimension 2400 with a 19 Daytek DT-95P monitor. It's i810 / 845G graphics. I can change resolutions, but I can't seem to get the refresh rate above 60hz. snip I've also seen this problem on the Dimension 2400. Just came across this,

[XFree86] problems having compiling programs

2004-02-18 Thread haynes george
hi.. i am a newbie who is currently reading a book on Xwindow applications programming .So there is little program to connect to an Xserver. it goes as #includestdio.h #includeX11/Xlib.h main() { Display *display=NULL; display=XOpenDisplay((char *)NULL); if(display==NULL)