[xmail] Re: OT: ClamAV/XMail/XAV/Win32

2004-04-01 Thread CLEMENT Francis
Here I allways run no 'standard' services (not part of windows itself), = like xmail, exchange, sql, ... with a user account for each service (so i = can view processes owned by him, in nt logs, limit accesses with rights, = )!! Simply create a account (say named XmailServer), place it in =

[xmail] Re: 1.18-pre09 problem(?)

2004-04-01 Thread Sönke Ruempler
But I will report if something stranges happens again. As i told the XMailservers crashed exactly at the same time, they are in different pl= aces and the start time was NOT the same. =20 Very mystic ... Not just 2.4 but 2.4.1. The problem is with kernels 2.4.2 and up. XMail 1.18 runs now

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay

2004-04-01 Thread Bill Healy
How about putting in smtprelay.tab all non-routable private subnets per RFC or some kind of wildcard or special entry that matches the subnets of all installed network cards in the xmail server? For example, case 1: smtprelay.tab 10.0.0.0/8 169.254.0.0/16 172.16.0.0/12 192.168.0.0/16 or case

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay

2004-04-01 Thread Bill Healy
Repeating this response since I didn't get a copy when I sent it this morning. -- How about putting in smtprelay.tab all non-routable private subnets per RFC or some kind of wildcard or special entry that matches the subnets of all installed network cards in the xmail server? For example,

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Dale Qualls
I guess I'm not trying to stifle it, but like everyone here, I have my = opinions. I do have to ask how many times does Davide have to say no before people = realize that he's not going to make the change? People may not be being = ungrateful, but beating this dead horse isn't going to make him

[xmail] status overview tool?

2004-04-01 Thread Roman Dusek
Hi all, I would find usefull some tool that could bring me a quick overview of how bussy is currently XMail - especially how many e-mails to be sent are in queue (i.e. when some customer starts a mailing to several thousands addresses). Is there any easy way to do it? Or is there any tool (for

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Wim Verveen
If open source just means ' please shut up' than closed source would be a much better alternative. I think that as a maintainer you should listen to the people using the software. This does not mean doing everything what people ask but listening. If there are things which the maintainer does not

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Matic
Davide doesn't hate documentation but the users who DON'T READ IT. He just want to make it as simple as possible. Besides, he already stated that he changed his opinion regarding this issue, so now would be a realy good time to close this thread and let the MAN work - what he does best. Matic

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Benny
Complainers, I do not usually get into these debates, but I know how hard it is developing little pieces of software here and there. So I can only imagine how much Davide has on his plate. Davide has never said, don't write documentation. If you are going to use opensource, than you have

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Wim Verveen
I think 'complaining' and 'suggesting' are getting confused here. And personally I don't want to use anything else but I think it is in the interest of everyone to have better documentation. Volunteers would be needed to do that. =20 -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Benny

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Benny
Well, suggesting turns into complaining. Thats why there are 20+ emails on this issue. Yes, you would need volunteers if you want to make the documentation better. As previously stated by Dale Qualls, there is another effort in documentation, so you could join up with that person to give

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Shiloh Jennings
Nobody is complaining. All everybody is doing is suggesting that XMail should not ship as an open relay. The open relay issue is an extremely obvious issue. No email server should ever ship as an open relay, regardless if it is free or paid for. And it is a very easy fix. One line of one tab

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Shiloh Jennings wrote: This is the same thing we all asked Microsoft to do with IIS. You seem to forget that MS (note not $ but S) has quite a few ppl for tech support, and users do not send emails directly to billg when something does not work as they expected. Anyway,

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Tracy
At 10:54 4/1/2004, you wrote: Why ship an email server as an open relay? There is no valid reason. I don't mean to be rude, nor to step on anyone's toes, but... Are you willing to answer the flood of email resulting from people downloading the product and not being able to figure out why they

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread David Stebbings
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[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Tracy
At 11:02 4/1/2004, you wrote: I also created a new distribution list [EMAIL PROTECTED] where I will forward all messages coming from lame users, and your addresses are already subscribed :-) If this is not simply humor, you can add me to that list. I'm not an expert in every setting or option

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Tracy wrote: If this is not simply humor, you can add me to that list. I'm not an expert in every setting or option (not by far) but I can certainly handle the basics of configuration. It was a joke ;) Actually, since it's Apr 1, I could have done better :-) - Davide

[xmail] Documentation

2004-04-01 Thread Jeffrey Laramie
Hi All, I believe that Dale and Benny are refering to my 'Beginner's Guide' in a previous thread. Unfortunately my guide is designed specifically for Linux users (although it probably is helpful for other unix like OSes). I don't have any other types of servers to experiment with and have gone

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Benny
Me too, davide. ben Tracy wrote: At 11:02 4/1/2004, you wrote: I also created a new distribution list [EMAIL PROTECTED] where I will forward all messages coming from lame users, and your addresses are already subscribed :-) If this is not simply humor, you can add me to that list.

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Benny
Damnit! I forgot about fools day!!! Yeah, you should have said 2.0 is out! hahaha Maybe not funny at first, but we would have seen the humor. Ben Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Tracy wrote: If this is not simply humor, you can add me to that list. I'm not an expert in every

[xmail] Re: Documentation

2004-04-01 Thread Benny
I too, am using Linux(SuSE to be exact). Do you have the link Jeffrey? I would like to look at it to see if there is anything I can add to it, as far as plugins and such. Thanks, Ben Jeffrey Laramie wrote: Hi All, I believe that Dale and Benny are refering to my 'Beginner's Guide' in a

[xmail] Re: Documentation

2004-04-01 Thread Jeffrey Laramie
On Thursday 01 April 2004 11:38, Benny wrote: I too, am using Linux(SuSE to be exact). Do you have the link Jeffrey? I would like to look at it to see if there is anything I can add to it, as far as plugins and such. Sure http://www.ubaight.com/xmail/BeginnersGuide.html - To unsubscribe from

[xmail] AW: Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Harald Schneider
Damnit! I forgot about fools day!!! Yeah, you should have said 2.0 is out! hahaha This one was excellent. OK - let's stop this thread here. --Harald - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the

[xmail] Webmin

2004-04-01 Thread Bill Healy
Has anyone come across a webmin module for xmail? Bill - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[xmail] Re: Webmin

2004-04-01 Thread Ken Larkman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Healy Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 10:28 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [xmail] Webmin Has anyone come across a webmin module for xmail? Bill, I don't believe there is a webmin

[xmail] Message Queuing / Filtering Problems

2004-04-01 Thread Jason Badry
I am running XMail v1.17 on Win2K. It was about a month ago that I upgraded to v1.17 and installed Spam Assassin and XAV/Mcafee filtering. For the most part, everything has been working very well. This morning, we had some power trouble, and the UPS which my mail server was plugged into

[xmail] Re: OT: ClamAV/XMail/XAV/Win32

2004-04-01 Thread Liron Newman
CLEMENT Francis wrote: Here I allways run no 'standard' services (not part of windows itself), = like xmail, exchange, sql, ... with a user account for each service (so i = can view processes owned by him, in nt logs, limit accesses with rights, = )!! Simply create a account (say named

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread M Jenck
Is anyone else getting all of these =3D20? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of David Stebbings Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

[xmail] Re: announce : XAV has been updated.

2004-04-01 Thread Rob Arends
I agree, the you missed something is not a good start. How hard can it be to take an existing working xav setup (as noted 22/08/2003 version of exe) and replace the exe with a newer one. Also verify and update if needed, the ini file for any new options. In the latest xav.zip I also tried the

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread LekySpigot
Yup...you're not seeing things. :-) Is anyone else getting all of these =3D20? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = On Behalf Of David Stebbings Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Default

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Michael Schwarz
Yes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M Jenck Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide Is anyone else getting all of these =3D20? Mike -Original

[xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide

2004-04-01 Thread Michael Harrington
A Hex Markup in MIME :) Someone needs to fix their parser :) - Original Message - From: Michael Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Default Open Relay @ Davide Yes -Original Message- From:

[xmail] Re: announce : XAV has been updated.

2004-04-01 Thread Xmail
Rob, We tried the same things (modify the included ini file, modify the return code in the xav.tab that is called by filters.out.tab and filters.in.tab) On our server, when we try to use XAV. 1) the temp directories under the xav tree never disappear. 2) the xav.exe processes never end 3)

[xmail] Re: Message Queuing / Filtering Problems

2004-04-01 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Jason Badry wrote: I am running XMail v1.17 on Win2K. It was about a month ago that I upgraded to v1.17 and installed Spam Assassin and XAV/Mcafee filtering. For the most part, everything has been working very well. This morning, we had some power trouble, and the

[xmail] Re: announce : XAV has been updated.

2004-04-01 Thread Chris L. Franklin
You can limit the number of calls to SA, it's a start option it has. when it reaches it's limit will queue all the other calls it gets. Right now on a wbel, I have it limit SA and Clamav to nly allow 4 messages to be scanned at one time. This helps seens as my SA foot print is 78 megs :) --

[xmail] Re: announce : XAV has been updated.

2004-04-01 Thread Rob Arends
Sounds awfully similar. Will let you know - no activity yet. Rob :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xmail Sent: Friday, 2 April 2004 12:47 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [xmail] Re: announce : XAV has been updated. Rob, We tried