Re: [xmail] ask about smtp authentication with openldap database via XMail service.
On 4 Aug 2015 at 4:26, Watthanachai Kekhua via xmail wrote: Dear XMail members, Right now we use about XMail as MTA and we would like to use SMTP authentication with ldap DB (openldap) . And in the manual said about add username (email address ) + password in to file MAILUSERS.TAB. So we would like to ignore this kind of case due to security issue show password field and then We would like to point authentication method to our ldap server instead such as integrate with cyrussasl something like this, could you kindly guide us about setting configure on XMail to support ldap DB ? Please do not hesitate to contact us , If you have any questions . Best Regards. # Watthanachai KEKHUA (Golf) # Operation And Maintenance Department (OAM) # Tel: 02-2367227 Ext. 1624 # NTT Communications (Thailand) Co., Ltd. # DISCLAIMER : This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. The information contained in this communication may be confidential and may be subject to the attorney-client privilege. If you are the intended recipient and you do not wish to receive similar electronic messages from us in future then please respond to the sender to this effect. Hi logged in as my general admin user: bash-4.3$ ls -l /var/MailRoot/ ls: acv: Permission denied ls: aliasdomain.tab: Permission denied ... ls: userauth: Permission denied ls: userdef.tab: Permission denied bash-4.3$ ls -l /var/MailRoot/mailusers.tab ls: /var/MailRoot/mailusers.tab: Permission denied mailusers.tab: domain[TAB]account[TAB]enc-passwd[TAB]account- id[TAB]accountt-dir[TAB]account-type also maybe your security risk enc-passwd is encrypted, eg: 0123456789abcdef It's possible to add hooks to external utilities, eg: openssl, spam-assassin. See xmail.txt. I've not changed my config since around 2004 but xmail and supporting programs are rebuilt fairly regularly, some along with base OS, some with pkgsrc and a few, including xmail in /usr/local/sources. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] thx to xmail and its author
On 16 May 2015 at 16:00, U.Mutlu via xmail wrote: Hi folks, I'm using xmail for a long time now (maybe 7 yrs), and I'm still very satisfied with it. OTOH I must admit I'm using it only for a small number of users, and I've used (before xmail) only one other mail-system (it was qmail iirc). I'm using a self-compiled version of xmail (the crippled version in the debian repository I tried about 2 yrs ago was unusable due to cfg-files spread around to many OS-system dirs; I like it compact under a single app-dir and its subdirs). The only thing I don't like much is the usage of TAB as delimiter in the cfg-files. What I would like to ask is: - What are the shortcomings or missing features other users experience with xmail? - What about the new developments regarding ssl and crypto since Snowden, and their relevance to xmail? - What new features should xmail have implemented? Hi I started using xmail around 2005 and at that time also had about four remote users. Main system here changed over time and is currently NetBSD. When a security vulnerability relevant to my setup is announced I rebuild the main base system, ntpd, xmail and other affected packages. XMail uses a few third party programs that are from either base system, NetBSD pkgsrc or local imports. I've always been setup so that a delay is introduced so that email from point and shoot mailers or mailers that don't retry isn't received but unfortunately hotmail is currently one of those. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Possible bug and suggestion
On 26 Sep 2012 at 10:10, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: Francesco, using nslookup or dig, how can I simulate a name resolution using this kind of dns name? I´ve tried: nslookup -type=MX university.ac.uk? MY-DNS-SERVER and dig university.ac.uk? without success. ps: Even nslookup -type=MX university.ac.uk MY-DNS-SERVER can´t find the correct address. I suspect that university.ac.uk is not an existing domain name. Try with kent.ac.uk or warwick.ac.uk. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Trash Can
On 15 Apr 2012 at 14:30, md wrote: Does anybody know how to route all mail not in the white list into the permanent trash can? For example, when we send out emails for a newsletter, we want the reply to address to be: nore...@xmailserver.com All my users either have an account setup or an alias to an existing account. Email to unknown users is bounced by xmail with RCPT+EAVAIL David in aliases.tab I have: xmailserver.com TAB * junk...@xmailserver.com But I do not want the XMAIL server to even store this email since it will not be picked up ever by an email client and I do not want these messages taking up disk space in some queue file or directory. Anybody have an idea on how to either accept the email into a black hole or reject the email outright. md ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Getting hammered bad
On 6 Jul 2011 at 13:36, Fred wrote: Hello all, I need help to fight against spammers, here is a sample of an smtp log entry: mail mail 72.16.236.115 2011-07-06 12:46:21 ALEXSERVER01.ANDREWALEX.local hotmail.co.uk vreaus...@vreausutelog.comobbard_d...@hotmail.co.uk SE86331 RECV=OK legitusern...@legitdomain.com 2507 I am receiving sometimes hundreds of this kind of email in a short time. I have tried black listing the IP and sender domain in spam-adress.tab and spammers.tab but they just change both and they spam again. The email legitusern...@legitdomain.com is a legit user on my server. I am using spamassassin, spf filter and RBL checks. Anyone has any ideas how to block these ers. I'm using both glst and spamassassin Glst is a bit tricky to setup for receiving email where the sender attempts to sends same email from a range of ip addresses. I have to either whitelist or set a high score with spamassassin so most of spam is blocked by glst. My mailboxes receive much more advertising from legitimate sources than spam. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Mail loops
On 2 Mar 2010 at 23:57, Gary Bainbridge wrote: Received: from technetium.cix.co.uk ([194.153.0.53]:43576) Blast from the past. I even miss it. Anyway I can't see an actual mail loop, it's just the large number of received headers. I had problems with some mailing lists and just increased MaxMTAOps from default of 16. It's now at 28. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] XMail under attack - failed pop3 logins
On 12 Feb 2010 at 9:18, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: Why do you port-forward pop110 to the outside world anyway ? Because I'd never thought about it, and it has always been open from before I used xmail. Even smtps, ssh etc aren't as open, ie just from selected ip blocks that are likely to be used. I've only just noticed volume of attacks increased, eg. over past 20 weeks: 0,3,0,0,0,416,0,168,3,0,0,1225,127,0,132,3,3694,557,5049 If you have clients outside, why not use VPNs for this ? I'll setup a vpn when I swap out the two old firewalls but it's not worth hassle at moment. AFAIK, port-forwarding pop3 to the outside world is not advisable. No more than running an ftp server. Problem isn't so much the security issues, it's load on server during such attacks. Having a secure connection doesn't prevent the connection attempts although it will possibly reduce the load. Accepting connections and delaying responses seems to be best compromise. Maybe Secure POP3 ? Yep, I've had smtps in use for many years and no reason not to use pop3s. cheers David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] XMail under attack - failed pop3 logins
I've not seen this before today but XMail fell over during a pop3 password attack. pop3 connections at firewall Feb 10 05:00-06:00 0 Feb 10 06:00-07:00 1161 Feb 10 07:00-08:00 9851 Feb 10 08:00-09:00 248 Feb 10 09:00-10:00 0 Pop3 log on one server has 4987 entries all ELOGIN but nothing else. Second server on network has 3 similar entries from Feb 6. Can I just add offending source ip range to spammers.tab or is it best to block at firewall? I believe firewall can block on connection rate so might investigate that. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] XMail under attack - failed pop3 logins
On 10 Feb 2010 at 8:17, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, David Lord wrote: I've not seen this before today but XMail fell over during a pop3 password attack. pop3 connections at firewall Feb 10 05:00-06:00 0 Feb 10 06:00-07:00 1161 Feb 10 07:00-08:00 9851 Feb 10 08:00-09:00 248 Feb 10 09:00-10:00 0 Pop3 log on one server has 4987 entries all ELOGIN but nothing else. Second server on network has 3 similar entries from Feb 6. Can I just add offending source ip range to spammers.tab or is it best to block at firewall? I believe firewall can block on connection rate so might investigate that. Firewall is better suited for things like that. That $hit does not even bother your server, in that way. A couple of /8 blocks added as I was setting off out for afternoon when I spotted the problem. Are attacks on pop3 something recent, or have I just been lucky? Cheers David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Speed
On 30 Jan 2010 at 12:25, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Hi all, By all reasonable accounts, XMail is fast. Does anybody know how it stacks up against the competition? Postfix, in particular, has held the speed crown for a good while now. But XMail with this fast thread startup and connection reuse could, I'm sure, be made to outflank Postfix even under stress and with its connection cache enabled. Here on my minimal server it's filters that take most of resources by orders of magnitude I'd guess. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] strange Xmail behaviour (v1.23)
On 5 Jan 2010 at 18:24, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:16:23 -0800 From: davi...@xmailserver.org To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: Re: [xmail] strange Xmail behaviour (v1.23) On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: [ BLAH BLAH BLAH . . . ] I _did_ check the system though, but sending a couple of e-mail message back and forth from web-based mail addresses (like this one). Nothing came through and I noticed that whatever I tried to send from the problematic domain didn't get out of the LAN. Messages do not disappear, unless there is some hardware or OS problem. If you send a message, *and* the message is accepted by XMail, than the message is either in the spool (and you have the slog for it), or you'll find an entry for it leaving the system in the SMAIL log. And where exactly might spool be? The SMAIL log ? Forgive my ignorance Davide but I don't know. It's all in the xmail documentation and if you don't have it to hand it would be a good idea to download it. On my NetBSD system locate xmail-1.23 | grep Readme /usr/local/sources/xmail/xmail-1.23/docs/Readme.html /usr/local/sources/xmail/xmail-1.23/docs/Readme.pod /usr/local/sources/xmail/xmail-1.23/docs/Readme.txt Here spool is a tree of directories at /var/MailRoot/spool/ and layout for this is in the docs along with instructions on using various admin tools. Logs are in /var/MailRoot/logs/ but you may need to enable them by adding commandline parameters and restarting xmail. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] strange Xmail behaviour (v1.23)
On 4 Jan 2010 at 15:05, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: Hello people, I've had a strange XMail behaviour the last couple of days. Server was (I've upgraded it, please read on) a slackware 12.2 box with XMail v1.23. People for this specific box started complaining that they send mail from their MUAs but never receive anything or their intended receipients. 1.26/1.27pre swapping over a few times but now 1.27pre10. spamassassin rules not updated? check spam folders etc That's only problem I've heard of, year 2009, but not had any adverse impact for me as I have high threshold but I did check and noted all spam scores were higher until sa rules were updated. That was the absolute truth. I've had a quick hunt on the logs and found nothing. BTW, I have to XMail logs to look at. This is really weird also. Other possibility is you lost internet connection for a while and mails are still queued to go out or have been frozen. Do a scan of your spool file or use ctrclnt to check Frozen messages I have and checked are delivery failures and running frozsubmit sometimes clears some/all or does nothing if mails are misaddressed. Then, without knowing what else to do since this was a live system that mis-behaved, I stopped XMail process and started a quick upgrade from v1.23 to v1.26. After that everything worked like before. However, I find this most suspicious. Would anyone have any idea what I should check ? Maybe the executable got corrupted or changed in any way ? On NetBSD there is a security report between file changes and I also have a copy of each MailRoot/bin that I have updated and recently run md5 against to check nothing changed. Also, how would someone configure XMail so to receive logs from it (XMail) somewhere on the hard drive ? Look at the docs that give the commandline options which have those for debugging listed. I have masses of logs in /var/MailRoot/logs/ and find them very useful at times. I think Davide prefers the xmail options all to be in commandline whilst I'd prefer an xmail.conf but it's not that important an issue for me. My commandline options are set in /etc/rc.d/xmail but on linux I've no idea. Any help would be appreciated, Thank you in advance all, ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] strange Xmail behaviour (v1.23)
On 4 Jan 2010 at 9:27, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, David Lord wrote: I think Davide prefers the xmail options all to be in commandline whilst I'd prefer an xmail.conf but it's not that important an issue for me. My commandline options are set in /etc/rc.d/xmail but on linux I've no idea. Let me be clear again on that. People wanted command line arguments inside the server.tab file, which is NOT the place from them. Command line arguments are parsed one at program startup, and changing them after that results in nothing, since the actions and configuration that are driven by them, are only performed at boot time. The server.tab file has, and had always been, a configuration file whose options can be changed at any time, and immediately after are they visible to the user. The server.tab file is NOT the correct place for command line options. Another file, like conf.tab or something, might be. Although do you really need an extra file to pass comand line options, when you have the environment (on Unix) and the registry (on Windows)? I see that point very well and agree with it, it's just that to me /etc/rc.d/ seems a strange and forgetable place for configuration options. It's easy enough to arrange to pick up the commandline parameters from rc.conf or rc.local though so I might try that. cheers David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] coredump from frozlist on NetBSD 4.0.1 with 1.27 pre06/08
On 30 Dec 2009 at 22:49, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, David Lord wrote: Hi frozlist.sh coredumps Decided to read local mail before going to bed tonight (daily and security reports), there was none so checked to see if any frozen files and had a core dump. That was with 1.27-pre08. I had same coredump when I went back to pre06, then back to 1.26 when frozlist script returned nothing and the missing mails appeared. Just tried to check for frozen files on live system that has pre06 and that also coredumps. When I run CntrlClnt from command prompt there seems to be no problem. When I revert that to 1.26 the frozlist.sh script runs ok (been using same script since 2006). What is frozlist.sh? Single line script that runs CtrlClnt frozlist for xmail admin user. Did I understand correctly that pre08+CtrlClnt did work? Yes it ran ok from same commandline as per the script. I was thinking it was a resource issue and I need to increase some setting. It also coincided with problem of the couple of emails being held in limbo. I'll leave it back on 1.26 as too busy to run any debugging at moment. David Can you build in debug mode: $ export XMAIL_DEBUG=1 $ make -f Makefile.bsd Then run again and once you get the core: $ gdb -c corefile path-to-xmail-binary bt full Then send the report. - Davide ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] coredump from frozlist on NetBSD 4.0.1 with 1.27 pre06/08
Hi frozlist.sh coredumps Decided to read local mail before going to bed tonight (daily and security reports), there was none so checked to see if any frozen files and had a core dump. That was with 1.27-pre08. I had same coredump when I went back to pre06, then back to 1.26 when frozlist script returned nothing and the missing mails appeared. Just tried to check for frozen files on live system that has pre06 and that also coredumps. When I run CntrlClnt from command prompt there seems to be no problem. When I revert that to 1.26 the frozlist.sh script runs ok (been using same script since 2006). Any ideas? David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] TLS connection logging?
On 24 Aug 2009 at 11:50, Chris Evans wrote: All, Is there any way of knowing if xmail made a TLS connection for a particular message? I've not seen anything in the log files or added to the message header as with some other SMTP servers. Thanks Chris I've seen an Xauth header and took it to be that, however I'd like to see something in a logfile (maybe there is and I can't spot it) or a separate log file. David Gloucester Research Limited believes the information provided herein is reliable. While every care has been taken to ensure accuracy, the information is furnished to the recipients with no warranty as to the completeness and accuracy of its contents and on condition that any errors or omissions shall not be made the basis for any claim, demand or cause for action. The information in this email is intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately and do not copy, distribute or take action based on this e-mail. All messages sent to and from this email address will be logged by Gloucester Research Ltd and are subject to archival storage, monitoring, review and disclosure. Gloucester Research Limited, 5th Floor, Whittington House, 19-30 Alfred Place, London WC1E 7EA. Gloucester Research Limited is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 04267560. ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] SMTP TLS
On 19 Aug 2009 at 16:41, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: Davide, I checked: http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#ssl_configuration and created server.cert and server.key And in server.tab SMTP-TLS 1 EnableSMTP-TLS 1 Using netstat -an I can see that port 465 was opened. But, for some reason, we can´t authenticate any user using smtp tls. Any tip? I can't see you've got anything wrong. Can you test locally. Also the more competent isp I use for adsl has enabled both smtps port 465 for ssl along with smmsp port 587 for smtpauth but that might also support tls (as I use xmail from home I've not needed those facilities). Last week by chance I tried out tls on port 25 from notebook via mobile broadband, to send by xmail on my server at home. That was delivered to one of my accounts on another isp and ended up in spam folder. Spam scores were due to mobile broadband ips I was sending from being on several blocklists and their dns was bad as well. At least using smtps or smmsp I'd be sending from clean ips. I'd previously tried smtps (then set as default) and those emails were delivered without problem. David Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br - Original Message - From: Davide Libenzi davi...@xmailserver.org To: XMail Users Mailing List xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [xmail] SMTP TLS On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: Hi All, Some users are asking us about smtp tls to be used together with google. What do we need to configure in Xmail to support smtp tls ? Have you checked this? http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#ssl_configuration And be sure EnableSMTP-TLS in not set to 0 in your server.tab file (default, if missing, is 1). - Davide ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] SMTP TLS
On 19 Aug 2009 at 10:25, Edinilson - ATINET wrote: Hi All, Some users are asking us about smtp tls to be used together with google. What do we need to configure in Xmail to support smtp tls ? obs: Xmail Win32 running on Windows 2000 Server SP4 I found that although I can connect to my own server from a remote blocklisted ip it's no use at all for getting email through to other sites, ie blocked before authentication. Not that I blame them. I route via my own server using smtps on port 465. My mobile broadand supplier suggests I contact recipient to add me (+any of their users spreading virus or spam) to add their ip block to their whitelist (and I have shares in this organisation). Either way you need certificates etc, which took me a nights session to setup (but several hours to get some tuits), and put them in correct place as per xmail docs and have the required lines in server.tab. If you self certify you will get complaints, as from one of my mates, that certificate isn't trusted, even though he had my public key already and I'd told him to accept it. On other users of my server I've done the add certificate bit myself. Then they only use it when their own isp's mailserver is down or blocklisted. can of worms? David Regards Edinilson - ATINET-Professional Web Hosting Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 http://www.atinet.com.br ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] Problem compiling xmail on NetBSD-5_BETA
Problem compiling xmail on NetBSD-5_BETA Hi I've tried compile of various versions of xmail and all give this error on NetBSD-5_BETA although binaries from earlier NetBSD 3.1 and 4.0 appeared to be running ok after upgrade to NetBSD-5. SSLBind.cpp: In function 'int BSslBindClient(BSOCK_HANDLE_struct*, const SslServerBind*, int (*)(void*, int, const void*), void*)': SSLBind.cpp:462: error: invalid conversion from 'const SSL_METHOD*' to 'SSL_METHOD*' SSLBind.cpp: In function 'int BSslBindServer(BSOCK_HANDLE_struct*, const SslServerBind*, int (*)(void*, int, const void*), void*)': SSLBind.cpp:536: error: invalid conversion from 'const SSL_METHOD*' to 'SSL_METHOD*' gmake: *** [SSLBind.o] Error 1 Any ideas as to a fix. David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
Re: [xmail] Problem compiling xmail on NetBSD-5_BETA
On 6 Mar 2009 at 9:51, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, David Lord wrote: Problem compiling xmail on NetBSD-5_BETA Hi I've tried compile of various versions of xmail and all give this error on NetBSD-5_BETA although binaries from earlier NetBSD 3.1 and 4.0 appeared to be running ok after upgrade to NetBSD-5. SSLBind.cpp: In function 'int BSslBindClient(BSOCK_HANDLE_struct*, const SslServerBind*, int (*)(void*, int, const void*), void*)': SSLBind.cpp:462: error: invalid conversion from 'const SSL_METHOD*' to 'SSL_METHOD*' SSLBind.cpp: In function 'int BSslBindServer(BSOCK_HANDLE_struct*, const SslServerBind*, int (*)(void*, int, const void*), void*)': SSLBind.cpp:536: error: invalid conversion from 'const SSL_METHOD*' to 'SSL_METHOD*' gmake: *** [SSLBind.o] Error 1 Any ideas as to a fix. OpenSSL changed the prototype. Try to replace the lines 456 and 530 from this: SSL_METHOD *pMethod; to this: SSL_METHOD const *pMethod; Oh, but they did not change the SSL_CTX_new() proto :/ (at least in my Debian Lenny box). Try the attached patch instead ... Thanks, that compiled ok. I'll give it some testing. Cheers David ___ xmail mailing list xmail@xmailserver.org http://xmailserver.org/mailman/listinfo/xmail
[xmail] Re: log file
On 10 Nov 2008 at 12:58, Kövesdi György wrote: Is there any explanation available for the log file entries? e.g.: RCPT=ERELAY: I hope it means that relaying is denied. You have all xmail errors explained here : http://www.xmailserver.org/Errors.html OK, but it does not explain the example mentioned. I would need some detailed explanation of the log file, especially its errors. Sorry I don't have a full list but some of those seen here are: RCPT=ERELAY = rejection of a relay attempt RCPT=EAVAIL = rejection for an unknown user RCPT=EERS = rejection after too many failed attempts AUTH=EFAIL:CRAM-MD5 = authenticated login failure RCPT=EFILTER= blocked by filter Accepted emails here are RCPT=OK followed by RECV=OK I usually check with http://www.abuse.net/relay.html after making any changes. There was also a loopback site that I used in distant past (but lost details of) which allowed sending email back to originating ip but as from a remote ip. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with pop3links
On 7 Oct 2008 at 16:13, gbainbridge wrote: How does the content of your pop3links.tab file look like? This is it. Note that I have tried ? and @ prefixes without any success. bainb.co.uk gary mail.myisp.comgbainbridge XXAPOP bainb.co.uk jason mail.myisp.comgbainbridge XXAPOP bainb.co.uk nmmail.myisp.comgbainbridge XXAPOP Where XX is my the encrypted password for my ISPs mailserver, and mail.myisp.com is the name of my ISPs mailserver. When I was on demon I had: my.fq.domain.name david pop3.myisp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Similar also works for pop3 from some other isps but not the one used as my secondary MX. This puts all email in one mailbox but their server didn't support collection by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it might do now). I'm fairly certain xmail could filter these but I'd already setup Mercury to filter on 'received*for' text in headers many years ago when it was primary mx and I was on dialup. Note the filtering is postreceipt and specific to header fomats of isp/server so has needed a few changes over the years. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with pop3links
On 8 Oct 2008 at 5:17, gbainbridge wrote: Fabian Cenedese wrote: Are the mails received by the ISP somehow modified? Not that I can tell. The only place in the header where I see the original recipient's name is the 'To' line. My ISP adds X-Originally-To: but that only points to their Spam remover, not the final recipient. I don't believe you are seeing all the headers. The To: header is meaningless if it's cc in which case you have a choice of To: or any number of CC: and if bcc you don't see those at all. I've bcc this to your email address. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.26-pre01
On 13 May 2008 at 18:01, Davide Libenzi wrote: I put out a pre01 version of 1.26: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.26-pre01.tar.gz Thanks that installed ok first on NetBSD 3.1 then on both of NetBSD 4.1 servers. Cheers David http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.26-pre01.win32bin.zip Changes: - Fixed a bug that allowed non-RFC characters inside domain names. - Fixed OSX Leopard build error. - Added timeo option to flags execution. - Added NoAuth, EnableVRFY and EnableETRN settings inside IP properties. - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Lockdown xMail
On 4 May 2008 at 13:00, Hal Dell wrote: .. It is my understanding that Mail-Auth was designed be to implement a submission port as defined by RFC 4409? In fact, RFC 4409 states: 3.2. Message Rejection and Bouncing. MTAs and MSAs MAY implement message rejection rules that rely in part on whether the message is a submission or a relay. For example, some sites might configure their MTAs to reject all RCPT commands for messages that do not reference local users, and configure their MSA to reject all message submissions that do not come from authorized users, with authorization based either on authenticated identity or the submitting endpoint being within a protected IP environment. Beyond Mr. Francis prior insights, I'm interested to here additional comments about how to xMail should respond to Relay'd eMail when using Mail-Auth. I only have four non local users that are allowed to relay. These just have entries in smtpauth.tab. They have their mta connect via port 465 rather than port 25 as at least one has their ISP block port 25. I can't remember any other requirement (other than setting up SSL) and it's worked ok. I've still not worked out if you want mail coming in via postini to be allowed to be relayed or if postini is just an external filter for scanning some of your incoming mail. If the latter, I can't see why it should need to be treated different to any other incoming email. However you've mentioned putting an entry for postini in smtprelay.tab which would indicate that you intend it is allowed to be relayed. I can't see how that can be done securely though without authentication. David Finally, in the document we should clarify how something like 96.227.65.4 is interpreted when use in conjunction with slash notation? Is this equal really to 96.227.65.4/32? I think the docs should be updated to say one way or the other. I hope you can see how one my interpret the documentation. Davide can you please tells how this works exactly? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Lockdown xMail
On 4 May 2008 at 22:16, Hal Dell wrote: Dear David Lord - I've still not worked out if you want mail coming in via postini to be allowed to be relayed or if postini is just an external filter for scanning some of your incoming mail. If the latter, I can't see why it should need to be treated different to any other incoming email. However you've mentioned putting an entry for postini in smtprelay.tab which would indicate that you intend it is allowed to be relayed. I can't see how that can be done securely though without authentication. Please understand that I support eMail for about over 300 Domains and about 450 eMailboxes so changing ports would be large task. Further, you are correct that the eMail from Postini plus outbound eMail from clients are Relay'd on Port 25. There is no problem so far as I know in using port 25, but in my case that port is blocked for outgoing by the ISPs except via their particular gateways. Can you arrange for your clients to use authentication on port 25? The problem is 1) the SPAMers are ignoring the MX records and using a private look-aside IP Address Database(s) which allows the SPAMers to bypass Postini by directly making a connection to the xMail Server on it's IP Address on Port 25; and 2) the SPAMers are constantly scanning IPs around the world for new or moved eMail servers; therfore they will eventually any hidden open Server within weeks -- I'm not just talking about an Issuse with SMTP -- this includes ALL of the protocols including the more common FTP, SQL, SMB, etc. Mostly glst removes majority of spam but there are periods, as just now, when a lot of spam is arriving via normal mailservers and this is being quarantined by spamassassin. I only run a few services with rest blocked at firewall. I also have a few ip blocklists in use. Thefore, one has no choice but to lock the relay function to only accept eMails from the upstream relay MTA; in this case Postini IPs. This is easily doable on Many of the MTAs that I've come across in the past like Microsoft Exchange; and RFC 4409 already proposed this concept. If you can be sure only your own customers will attempt to relay via postini you can just add that ip block to smtprelay.tab without specifying authentication, however I'd not trust it as being secure without knowing a lot more as to how the service works. ie. (1) your account users authenticate (2) postini only allowed to relay via its ip block Do you need authentication capability for postini? David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Lockdown xMail
On 2 May 2008 at 10:27, Hal Dell wrote: Hello... For those of you who don't know Postini -- the company was founded in 1999 in California as a eMail Communication Security and Compliance company. By May 2004 it was relaying 1.4B eMail annually for over 3300 companies. Postini was recently purchased by Google for just over 1/2 Billon Dollars. In one package you get SPAM Filtering, Anti-Spyware and Anti-Virus checking plus a web site to to manage white/black lists and quarantined eMail on a per eMailbox basis. Today, Postini is processing eMails for 40,000 Business with 10M eMailboxes which means 1B eMail messages per day flow thru their systems of which 85% of these messages are blocked as unsolicited or malicious. Of the remaining, about 10% are quarantined and the balance are delivered as clean eMail. For example over the last 30 Days we received 55,000 messages and 6.5% were delivered as clean. We now have a reseller agreement in place and are now signing up our ISP customers for this service. Thanks, Hal Dell Managing Partner ePodWorks.net, Inc. Cheers that's explains your problems then :-) DL - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: multiple smtprelay servers for custdomains and 5xx er rors
On 26 Apr 2008 at 22:46, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 24 Apr 2008, Oliver Stöneberg wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, CLEMENT Francis wrote: Seems there was some post about this. The BIG figure is when the final domain have multiple mx servers. Suppose the final domain have two mx and one is misconfigured and return a 5xx. So if xmail tries first the 'bad' server, what to do next ? On a atomic try/retry cycle, you have two choices : 1 - don't try others mx and send back an NDR to the sender 2 - Try the others reminding MX for this try/retry cycle, and send back an NDR ONLY AND ONLY IF all mx return a 5xx, else schedule a normal retry cycle (that will retry on each mx). I think option 2 is better :) Could Davide tell us how xmail handles the 5xx with multiple mx ? As far as smtprelay goes, a failure (of whatever type), means try the next server in the list. That's why I wrote a mail, because it makes no sense to continue in the case of a permanent error. Is there a way to configure XMail with multiple domains and stop when you get a permanent error? I remember there was a discussion or something, time ago. But now I can't remember. It seems sane to me that a 5xx error stops the processing, and I'll schedule this for change. Speak now or forever hold your peace, in case you rely on XMail re-trying even upon 5xx ... Looking at RFC2821 I can't really make out what is intended to happen in this situation. It seems ok to stop and send an NDR, or that the server that gave the 5xx response should not be retried but other servers MAY be tried. So I'd say go for option (2) as most robust method. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: XMailServer 1.25 Memory Footprint
On 24 Apr 2008 at 14:46, Vinny Wadding wrote: Damn, I was hoping I had missed an option in server.tab. ;-) I only mentioned the memory usage above to clarify that I didn't look like = it I was any leak in XMail itself. Obviously, this is a new server and at = the moment only test traffic is running though it before it goes fully live= .. When that happens the memory usage will, no doubt, go up accordingly. The server it is running on is a Fedora8 X64 Server, with 4gb of memory. I= have two perl filters running. A pre-smtp spf filter and an inbound/outb= ound virus scan. The telnet sessions to the server were just standard ones - no errors were = reported at all. Only a home user but several domains and host for a few friends. I've had issues indirectly from XMail and filters eating up memory but in first case it was too many instances of perl and most recently my AV filter causing load by false alarming on a particular message then due to same problem catching each warning email sent. First problem was resolved by limiting number of scripts running at same time to just two (above four caused a rapidly increasing load to 100%cpu when my batch of a dozen test emails hit the server). Second problem back in January wasn't investigated and I disabled AV scan, cleaned out the 30k+ emails in the queue and forgot about it. Later I cloned then reconfigured same setup onto another server but for another domain and had exact same problem when AV enabled. After clearing spool and update of AV the problem hasn't reappeared on either system. It may have been a corrupted AV update in first place. Another possibility is a race when scanning and AV update coincide so I modified both update and filter to minimise this (my perl skill is not good enough to eliminate rather than minimise). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Header 'Received :' question/suggestion
On 20 Mar 2008, at 22:50, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, CLEMENT Francis wrote: Hello Davide and list Here is a sample xmail generated 'Received :' header : Received: from some_sender_name ([aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd]:p) (not important) What is exactly the 'some_sender_name' actual value ? - The value of the HELO/EHLO ? - The reverse dns of aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd ? And what is the corresponding field in the different logs generated by xmail ? same as the one used in generating the 'received :' header ? Suggestion : Depending of the response to the above question, could it be possible to add (options in server.tab ?) the other value ? ie : Received: from some_sender_name ([aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd]:p) (RDNS : therevdnsvalue) There're too many software relying of parsing Received: headers, and I don't want to change and possibly break them. The RFC does not contemplate it, so better not touch it. Yes, for emails received bcc to several recipients there seems to be no easy method to determine the user they were intended for. I filter on received headers for this purpose as more general than the occasional 'envelope to' or other similar headers that may be present. For me this is Postscript related rather than Xmail as my secondary mx is a catch-all mailbox on separate ISP and Mercury collects by pop3 and filters on received. When changes are made to Postscript and/or ISPs config I sometimes have to change filters (last time was a few years ago). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems
On 21 Mar 2008, at 1:56, max toro q wrote: Hello, I'm new in this list. I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem. I've also done some testing with gmail and yahoo, no problem there, everything gets delivered. I have another server with Postfix installed, and there I have no problems with hotmail, so I assume the issue is between Xmail and hotmail. Anyone had any similar issues? Yes but not very often. Mails are accepted but never delivered. Similar with AOL. I guess it's one way to reduce spam and they are happy to occasionally lose their customers emails in the process. When I last had problem with hotmail, after fair number of test mails I could see it was only one of their servers dropping them. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems
On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:41, Francesco Vertova wrote: At 12.47 21/03/08, David Lord wrote: On 21 Mar 2008, at 1:56, max toro q wrote: I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem. Yes but not very often. Mails are accepted but never delivered. Not sure we're talking about the same thing, anyway from time to time my users complain that mails for hotmail accounts are not delivered, meaning that the receiver did not receive them and the sender was not notified of any error. Every time I have investigated I found that hotmail did accept the message for delivery: smail logs say that. For me, this means that XMail did its job and the problem (if any: you know, 90% of a computer's problems lie between the keyboard and the chair ...) is with hotmail: if a MTA accepts a message for delivery, it must either deliver or bounce. Sorry I left it a little ambiguous. Exact same as you, Xmail delivered to hotmail so far as I could tell (that was before logging of the receipt code was added) hotmail accepted but from hotmail server (in my case, just on one particular ip address) it wasn't delivered to recipient. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: FreeBSD problem (similar to NetBSD problem reported earlier?)
On 18 Feb 2008, at 12:27, Jeff Buehler wrote: Hi all - Sorry to be late to the game with this - in an earlier list email that I inadvertently deleted (thinking I had no helpful input, of course!) titled Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4 there was a discussion about the error: Recipient domain .com does not exist (or it has a misconfigured DNS) I am also getting this error regularly with FreeBSD 6 and XMail 1.25. I mention it in the XMail forums as well, and read about a number of other recent occurrences, but nothing has been resolved specifically. As I mention in the forums, I have verified the domains are valid and properly configured in some of the cases, but the errors are consistent with specific domains. In my case, one example is trikorausa.com which I can send email from any server other than my active XMail server under FreeBSD, adn which looks properly configured via dnstools.com (I configured it, so I believe it is correct...) Davide responded: I think XMail is getting a ERR_DNS_NXDOMAIN (NXDOMAIN) from your DNS server. When that's happening, XMail does not even try to fall back to the A record delivery. and I think seems like it may be correct, but I am uncertain how to test this. The server does not provide DNS queries for itself (although it provides DNS for the domains it is authoritative on) but queries a m0n0wall router on the LAN, which queries my ISPs DNS servers. The server is able to resolve a dig as well as dig+trace to the MX record to trikorausa.com (and other domains) without incident. This would suggest that something else might be going on, since the domain does have a functional and valid MX record, so there should be no need to fall back to an A record. Davide's reply was in response to my problems with NetBSD-3.1 and NetBSD-4.0. I'd been using SmartDNSHost pointing to my local dns as that was also configured for private ips on the lan and at some point this had become replaced by a malformed version (I'd commented out it out for some reason and afterwards un-commented the wrong line). The only thing this broke was local mail delivery which I didn't notice until testing new server which used cloned configuration of current server. This seems to be a new problem, but I updated XMail to 1.25, FreeBSD (minor update) and the m0n0wall router (minor update) all around the same time. I am not using SmartDNSHost, nor have I ever, although I've been running XMail for 6 or more years... should I test setting it to my ISP DNS servers rather than the local m0n0wall router (which queries the ISP servers anyway successfully with other services on the same server)? Does anyone have any ideas or recommendations about how to test where the problem might be? I'd suggest trying with SmartDNSHost set to the router then again with it set to the ISP. What servers do you have set in resolv.conf? David Thanks, Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
On 7 Feb 2008, at 23:50, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, David Lord wrote: On 30 Jan 2008, at 23:35, David Lord wrote: Now back to NetBSD-4.0. I'm still unable to get local mail outgoing from NetBSD-4.0 whilst mail to public addresses seems be delivered ok. The dns server is same for NetBSD-3.1 as for NetBSD-4.0 so I suspect problem is due to some changes from NetBSD-3.1 with Sendmail to NetBSD-4.0 with Postscript. Local mail delivery to other hosts on lan worked ok via Postscript. This was difficult to find but when I checked my main mailserver I found it had developed the same problem but same NetBSD version 3.1+ as system that was ok. As these are near identical configuration I just diffed the files and found a typo in server.tab smartdns line and on correcting this could again send mail to hosts on lan ok. Problem with NetBSD-4 system was down to same fault. So, are we cool? Not yet, I think I'm now infrequently using so many features I need to put in place a test suite I can run each time any change is made. Other than that I'm really pleased :-) Cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
On 30 Jan 2008, at 23:35, David Lord wrote: Now back to NetBSD-4.0. I'm still unable to get local mail outgoing from NetBSD-4.0 whilst mail to public addresses seems be delivered ok. The dns server is same for NetBSD-3.1 as for NetBSD-4.0 so I suspect problem is due to some changes from NetBSD-3.1 with Sendmail to NetBSD-4.0 with Postscript. Local mail delivery to other hosts on lan worked ok via Postscript. This was difficult to find but when I checked my main mailserver I found it had developed the same problem but same NetBSD version 3.1+ as system that was ok. As these are near identical configuration I just diffed the files and found a typo in server.tab smartdns line and on correcting this could again send mail to hosts on lan ok. Problem with NetBSD-4 system was down to same fault. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
On 20 Jan 2008, at 12:34, Davide Libenzi wrote: Give me a summary :) Should I look into it or not? Seems way hostnames are checked is different between NetBSD-4.0 (xmail-1.25-pre16) and NetBSD-3.1 (xmail-1.25) or NetBSD-3.1 (xmail 1.25). NetBSD 3.1 3.1 4.0 xmail 1.25-pre16 1.25 1.25 private A address sendmail ok fail fail recv ok ok ok public MX address xmailrelayok ok not checked sendmail ok ok ok recv ok ok not checked I have local dns for hosts on lan which also caches public addresses. There are only A records for private addresses. Server.tab has SmarDNSHost set to use local dns server. Mutt and some logging uses /var/MailRoot/bin/sendmail but I could get round part of problem by using postfix instead. Send failures have this form of error [00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Error=[Recipient domain p4x2400c.home.lordynet.org does not exist (or it has a misconfigured DNS)] ### ; DiG 9.4.1-P1 p4x2400c.home.lordynet.org -t ANY ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 46719 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;p4x2400c.home.lordynet.org. IN ANY ;; ANSWER SECTION: p4x2400c.home.lordynet.org. 604800 INA 192.168.59.210 ### I've still to try an earlier version of xmail on NetBSD-4.0 and also try again with ipv6 enabled. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
On 20 Jan 2008, at 12:34, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, David Lord wrote: On 20 Jan 2008, at 2:43, David Lord wrote: I've just been setting up a new server running NetBSD-4 and copied my existing 1.25-pre25 NetBSD 3.1 directory and binaries. 'telnet localhost 25' Allows me to connect and accepts a test email. All attempts at using the interface hostname or ip address get a connection refused. Sorry for followups to my own message but it now looks to be a configuration issue of some kind as my spare NetBSD 3.1 system XMail-1.25-pre16 shows exact same problem so it's probably not particularly a NetBSD-4 problem. I can telnet to port 25 on main server by hostname ok but get connection refused from spare server. It's only a few weeks ago that I setup and tested smtps and pop3 connections from a Ubuntu system to this spare server before transferring that configuration to main server to provide reasonably secure remote access as well as allowing direct connections from friends with outgoing port 25 blocked by isp. sorry for the noise - again Give me a summary :) Should I look into it or not? I'm still working on it but it appears to be NetBSD-4 and/or ipv6 related. Any help would still be appreciated. Sockstat showed xmail to be listening on tcp6 on all three systems. NetBSD-3.1 mail.lordynet.org is ipv6 enabled and both ipv4 and ipv6 working. NetBSD-3.1 with test server used same commandline with -M7 -B6 -P6 -S6 -X6 and also. With those parameters removed I now see sockstat only shows xmail listening on tcp rather than tcp6 and this system now accepts external connections. NetBSD-4.0 on intended new server had same commandline but after restart with above parameters removed I still get sockstat showing tcp6 and connection refused except from localhost. With two previously unconfigured interfaces set to dummy ip4 addresses, sockstat now shows tcp rather than tcp6 and I can make remote connections. So although systems are now working I suspect there is some problem there with xmail and or NetBSD. Also with default postfix there wasn't a problem. I disabled xmail and undid the changes to interfaces and sockstat then showed postscript listening on tcp (not tcp6) whilst external connections are ok. cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
Hi I've just been setting up a new server running NetBSD-4 and copied my existing 1.25-pre25 NetBSD 3.1 directory and binaries. 'telnet localhost 25' Allows me to connect and accepts a test email. All attempts at using the interface hostname or ip address get a connection refused. I've since done a fresh install of 1.25 which dumps core on attemp to start using supplied script /etc/rc.d/xmail and if started with my own script again can connect ok to localhost but not by hostname or ip. Log file entries smtp, smail, filters(glst, sa and fprot) look normal for local delivered email. NFS, Samba, Ftp and Web servers all seem to be running ok (both NFS and Samba will eventually be removed), also default install of postfix accepted remote connections ok. Any ideas to get some debugging out of it (Md option is already enabled). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
I've just been setting up a new server running NetBSD-4 and copied my existing 1.25-pre25 NetBSD 3.1 directory and binaries. 'telnet localhost 25' Allows me to connect and accepts a test email. All attempts at using the interface hostname or ip address get a connection refused. I've since done a fresh install of 1.25 which dumps core on attemp to start using supplied script /etc/rc.d/xmail and if started with my own I've looked through startup scripts and main difference is single extra line in script with 1.25: ulimit -s 128 If I add that line to my own script I also get a segfault/coredump. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem with XMail on NetBSD-4
On 20 Jan 2008, at 2:43, David Lord wrote: I've just been setting up a new server running NetBSD-4 and copied my existing 1.25-pre25 NetBSD 3.1 directory and binaries. 'telnet localhost 25' Allows me to connect and accepts a test email. All attempts at using the interface hostname or ip address get a connection refused. Sorry for followups to my own message but it now looks to be a configuration issue of some kind as my spare NetBSD 3.1 system XMail-1.25-pre16 shows exact same problem so it's probably not particularly a NetBSD-4 problem. I can telnet to port 25 on main server by hostname ok but get connection refused from spare server. It's only a few weeks ago that I setup and tested smtps and pop3 connections from a Ubuntu system to this spare server before transferring that configuration to main server to provide reasonably secure remote access as well as allowing direct connections from friends with outgoing port 25 blocked by isp. sorry for the noise - again David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Fprot false alarms?
Anyone using fprot with xmail? My main server has given a couple of empty messages that a virus has been found but no details and that was last week but it crashed last week then earlier today. Today my test server al;so crashed after uptime of 200+ days and on restart I find multiple instances of XMail then see spool file is full of (179174 of them) messages: Subject: Identified virus! all dated from Dec 1. The message flagged as infected is itself a message: Subject: Identified virus! I hope this is a false alarm. Anyone seen similar problem? David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Fprot false alarms?
On 2 Dec 2007, at 21:46, David Lord wrote: Anyone using fprot with xmail? My main server has given a couple of empty messages that a virus has been found but no details and that was last week but it crashed last week then earlier today. I've now manually run fprot on the most recent saved 'infected' message but it scans as clean. I'm suspecting a problem in the scripts or xmail maybe caused as system time was stepped before ntpd was restarted after the crash. Today my test server al;so crashed after uptime of 200+ days and on restart I find multiple instances of XMail then see spool file is full of (179174 of them) messages: Subject: Identified virus! all dated from Dec 1. The message that initially caused the problem was the email sent with output from daily security check on Dec 1. I've now found a possible misconfiguration of the spamd flags in rc.conf on the test server. Sorry for the noise. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 2-4 hour delay on relays....
On 22 Nov 2007, at 11:51, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, David Lord wrote: I should have added that defaults for retries seem very conservative and much safer for a production server than my values that ramp up the period between reduced number of retries much more agressively. Davide, please correct me if I've calculated wrong but I work out retries are at following times after initial attempt: Actually, defaults are even too aggressive. Especially considering the fact that *many* servers now use greylisting. You're right, I'd missed that side effect of greylisting. It does require a particular set of circumstances to hit a problem from it, not already being whitelisted together with connection failures over the period for first few retries. I suppose for a production server you're now stuck with needing a high value or zero for ratio and a high number of retries. For me, I have three NotifyTryPattern points set and non appearance or otherwise seems a good enough way of indicating when an email has been sent. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 2-4 hour delay on relays....
On 21 Nov 2007, at 9:27, Dale Qualls wrote: Same problem thing this morning. Sent a message, waited 30 minutes and it's still sitting in the queue, no SLOG file, message was sitting in the spool just fine. Restart XMail and the message flies on through. Is there anything strange with my command line? This is happening on Yes ! Here is my command line (on both servers): ! ! XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-Pl -Sl -Ql -Qt 10 -Qr 50 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -SX 100 ! ! I've got the Qt set to 10 so after a failure it should retry a send ! in ! !10 minutes, correct? All of the l are lower case Ls. 10 seconds? I have -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 Default Qt 480 so I guess that's not minutes. both boxes. Maybe the box is running low on memory? They only have 256MB of RAM and it looks like most of it is being used up (246MB). I'm going to double the RAM and see if that makes a difference. I bet XMail is maybe bogging down because it's getting killed by lack of RAM? Only a home server here, k6-400, NetBSD 3.1, total memory = 127 MB, avail memory = 119 MB. I used to send a batch of 12 emails from a remote account as test of spamassassin and fprot, 6 x connections each to 2 accounts. Occasionally all would slowly get through but mostly system crashed (I think there is a memory problem from NetBSD 2.0 on and still not located/fixed with 4.0). Seemed most likely spamassassin perl script was using all memory but I set a check in both fprot and spamassassin to each limit number of scans to 2. That fixed the problem completely. I'm sure possibly several years back I've had cases of seeing incoming email connections in firewall logs but nothing arriving in mailbox. Going through spool and deleting any that appeared to be spam would fix the problem. It's happened so infrequently that I never tried to work out exact cause. David mx3:/ # top top - 09:03:45 up 5 days, 32 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Tasks: 52 total, 2 running, 50 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 0.0%us, 0.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 98.8%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 1.2%si, 0.0%st Mem:256724k total, 246544k used,10180k free,90496k buffers Swap: 514040k total, 84k used, 513956k free,95008k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 14314 root 16 0 319m 3748 1584 S 0.3 1.5 0:21.38 XMail 1 root 16 0 720 284 244 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.58 init 2 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 ksoftirqd/0 3 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 4 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 5 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kthread 7 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:01.79 kblockd/0 8 root 20 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 98 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 2:30.25 pdflush 99 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:02.91 pdflush 101 root 20 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 100 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.52 kswapd0 307 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cqueue/0 308 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 348 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kpsmoused 720 root 11 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0 809 root 10 -5 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.06 reiserfs/0 Thanks Davide. Dale Qualls wrote: I had attempted with the file system before, there just wasn't a slog file. I followed your directions below but lo and behold the message transferred immediately. MX2:/var/MailRoot/spool # grep -R [EMAIL PROTECTED] * MX2:/var/MailRoot/spool # cd ../logs MX2:/var/MailRoot/logs # grep -R [EMAIL PROTECTED] smail-20071120* pmnhg.net 1195567522962.2820438944.1ca30.MX2S99747F [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 12:09:01 pmnhg.net 1195590261005.2812046240.2312b.MX2S99D74E [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 15:13:36 *pmnhg.net 1195597085232.2837445536.48.MX2 S9A27C9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 16:18:05* MX2:/var/MailRoot/logs # So, I tried it again and it still transferred immediately: pmnhg.net 1195567522962.2820438944.1ca30.MX2S99747F [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 12:09:01 pmnhg.net 1195590261005.2812046240.2312b.MX2S99D74E [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 15:13:36 pmnhg.net 1195597085232.2837445536.48.MX2 S9A27C9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]RLYS 10.5.10.3 2007-11-20 16:18:05 *pmnhg.net 1195597442419.2795482016.268.MX2
[xmail] Re: 2-4 hour delay on relays....
On 21 Nov 2007, at 23:27, David Lord wrote: On 21 Nov 2007, at 9:27, Dale Qualls wrote: Same problem thing this morning. Sent a message, waited 30 minutes and it's still sitting in the queue, no SLOG file, message was sitting in the spool just fine. Restart XMail and the message flies on through. Is there anything strange with my command line? This is happening on Yes ! Here is my command line (on both servers): ! ! XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-Pl -Sl -Ql -Qt 10 -Qr 50 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -SX 100 ! ! I've got the Qt set to 10 so after a failure it should retry a send ! in ! !10 minutes, correct? All of the l are lower case Ls. 10 seconds? I have -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 Default Qt 480 so I guess that's not minutes. I should have added that defaults for retries seem very conservative and much safer for a production server than my values that ramp up the period between reduced number of retries much more agressively. Davide, please correct me if I've calculated wrong but I work out retries are at following times after initial attempt: Qt,Qi,Qr 480,16,32 10,16,51 907,1,9 Retry hhh:mm:ss hhh:mm:ss hhh:mm:ss 1 0: 8: 0 0: 0:10 0:15: 7 2 0:16:30 0: 0:20 0:45:21 3 0:25:31 0: 0:31 1:45:49 4 0:35: 7 0: 0:43 3:46:45 5 0:45:19 0: 0:56 7:48:37 6 0:56: 9 0: 1:10 15:52:21 7 1: 7:39 0: 1:24 31:59:49 8 1:19:53 0: 1:39 64:14:45 9 1:32:53 0: 1:56 128:44:37 .. 29 10:14:35 0:12:48 30 11: 1: 0 0:13:46 31 11:50:18 0:14:47 32 12:42:42 0:15:53 .. 470:43:24 480:46:17 490:49:20 500:52:35 David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SSL + Attachment
On 17 Nov 2007, at 19:11, Filip Supera wrote: Bonjour Davide, R=E9ponse au message re=E7u le 17/11/2007 =E0 18:57 : On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Filip Supera wrote: Hello, =20 I've got two machines running XMAIL. One has 1.24 and the other has 1.25. I use SSL on port 465 for SMTP. When I send a message without attachment or with small attachment (I just tried with 3 22KO jpeg pictures), no problem. =20 But, if I attach files that weigh more than 80KO, the transfer starts but stops after a few seconds and fails. I see nothing special when I run in debug mode. =20 Am I the only one having this problem ? Anybody can help me solve this ? Thanks. I have full SSL enabled in my systems, and it works w/out any problems?= =20 Can you try sending a 80KB attachment instead of a 80KO? Maybe XMail does= =20 not understand French very well :) :-) Seriously, in the very latest 1.25-pre series I replaced OpenSSL DLLs wit= h=20 the new ones I built based on the latest OpenSSL release. Are you sending from XMail to XMail, or from MUA to XMail? From=20MUA (Thunderbird or The Bat!) with XMail (running on Linux) as SSL s= mtp server. No (*)real problem here from Evolution on Ubuntu 7.10 with 230KB music file as attachment connecting to xmail 1.25-pre25 on NetBSD using smtps port 465 (1) picked up from xmail mailbox by pop3. (2) via xmail to external email address (smtp possibly exim) (*) Evolution complained of bad certificate - did I want to accept. Didn't do that earlier this week but both Ubuntu and xmail updated since. (*) SpamAssassin log on NetBSD had EMAIL TOO BIG but attachment arrived intact. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags
On 3 Oct 2007, at 9:56, Hal Dell wrote: Hello All... Recently a SPAMer started sending eMails to the server using a dictionary for eMail addresses like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc. Then the eMail Servers trys to send an eMail message back to the sender indicating the eMail was NOT delivered because of a bad eMail address. So far as I am aware, XMail does not send an email back to the sender. If you check your smtp log you might see the incoming connection has been rejected with an EAVAIL error code. What may be happening, and appears to be as I've been seeing, is that the spammer is sending via an open relay or badly configured server and using your domain as return path as well as recipient, delivery is rejected and the server then sends off the rejection email. No sender bounce should help solve that problem but you can also put the severs ips in spammers.tab if you don't expect legitimate email from those. I don't like using spammers.tab but have found option of putting a delay of a few seconds in connections from those ips used to work against previous methods of spam and virus propogation but wouldn't be useful in this case. David So I've set NoSenderBounce to 1. By changing this setting will this stop this behavior? Next, I still need SenderBounce enabled for certain eMail accounts. I was wondering why we don't push down a lot of these configuration options to the domain level like SmarterMail does? If a lot of folks using xMail are ISP / ASP then this would make sense to have management control at the domain level. I don't know if you guys have seen this but the SPAMers are now using your eMail Server, if eMail bounce back Messages are on, to effectively SYN Flood someone. The way this works is they get hold of some domain then point that domain's A to an IP that does NOT have an eMail Server associated with it. Typically, these domains don't have MX records. Then, they send a slow drip of eMails to the same domain, the effect is the eMail Server tries to deliver the bounce back to the sender over and over again. Each time the bounce back is attempted an TCP connection is attempted and of course a SYN is generated first. Now, imagine, that you have several 100 eMails in the message queue, all the time, all trying to connect to that same IP at various intervals based upon the time they were received. And now you get a SYN Flood. How do we solve this? Can you simply ONLY send eMails to domains that have MX records? I know this Probally violates and RFC, however, we else can we do until someone decides to fix the larger SPAM issue. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Less server load
On 11 Oct 2007, at 16:02, Fabian Cenedese wrote: Hi I recently had a case where xmail got about a dozen mails at the same time (with PSYNC). So I then had several threads doing virus scanning and spam checking. As each thread only got a little CPU time they timed out and the mails slipped through without being checked. Apart from increasing the filter timeout time I would also like to lower the number of threads doing the filtering in filter.in.tab. Are these the SMAIL threads? So I need to give a lower -Qn argument? I don't mind if a mail has to wait some minutes before it is filtered, the filter is more important then the immediate delivery. Are there any other effects with less threads? Is the responsiveness still the same (should be so as they are handled from POP3/SMTP)? That would/used to likely cause a kernel panic on my NetBSD server (k6-400/128MB ram. I used both xmail commandline parameters and filter scripts to limit number processed simultaneously. I'm not sure which settings as this was a long while back. In the filter script I inserted a check on what filter was already running and a wait until 2 were running before next one progressed. Spamassassin perl seemed to be main culprit rather than fprot. My test was to send a dozen emails from a remote account, 4 x ok, 4 x virus and 4 x spam and with number of simultaneous processes at 4 I'd occasionally have a problem so settled for 2 and there is only a short delay introduced such that from my remote account the sending client didn't timeout with all having been delivered within 30 - 40 sec. David Is there anything else that can be done in the filters except to check if the @@FILE is still available to handle long filter runs? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Bounced eMail messags
On 4 Oct 2007, at 0:36, K. Wolf wrote: Hi, Last weekend I had an example of this happen to one of my backup mail servers. When I noticed the problem there were 27,000 NDR type messages it was trying to deliver. Mostly all were sent to random [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the mail server was diligently trying sending NDR's to every single one of them - most likely to faked or spoofed addresses. I could actually sit and watch more junk flooding in, they appeared to be coming from many compromised hosts so blocking the IP's didn't really help. So it would be very useful if Xmail at least had an option so that it does not send all the bounced email messages. I realise this may not conform to the RFC's and I realise that not many people may use it, but it would still be a very helpful if the mail-admin found that NDR messages were getting out of hand. One or two legitimate senders may not know that their mail was not delivered, but when compared to the type of flood described here its a small price to pay I can't say I've seen xmail behave as you're seeing. I was getting lots of bogus bounces incoming from systems that have attempted to send from forged valid addresses @lordynet.org to invalid addresses and these have correctly been rejected by xmail (EAVAIL) but the badly configured remote system then returns a bounce email to the rejection back out to the forged sender, also including the original spam content. These were more than a little annoying due to effort in working out what was happening. It seems to have been fixed now. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: eMail NOT automatically being requeued?
On 14 Jun 2007, at 23:55, Hal Dell wrote: Dear David Lord- Hal Dell wrote: The problem is that I received the error code and message 451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds. In the case of xMail it did not retry to send the eMail. According to RFC2505, 4xx are Transient Negative Completion reply (Temporary Error) and should result in the mail transfer being put back on queue again and a new attempt being made later. David Lord wrote: That doesn't seem right, as greylisting has been taken up by more providers I've seen temporary failure many times but xmail retries and either delivers or eventually gives up and I get an unable to deliver message. Only unable to deliver have been whilst testing and not to real addresses. Xmail default here was a notification after first temporary failure then after complete failure which might be 4 - 5 days later. I modified notification settings to 1,6,9 attempts but any that have hit 6, all test emails, never get through at all. If I'm desperate I check what is still in spool file that xmail is still trying. One unlikely possibility is the greylisting accept period is too short and after jumping past it there is no possibility mail will get through. Thanks for the input -- I've been using xMail for quite some time and checked on your suggestions. I don't understand the NotifyTryPattern option -- is this in hours? None of the docs I found describe this in detail. These are simply the queue retry counts at which a notification email is sent to both postmaster and user that the email is still queued. By default xmail makes 32 retries but only slowly increases time between retries from initial period of 480 seconds set by commandline options -Qt timeout, -Qi ratio, -Qr nretries. It's probably not a good idea to change from defaults. The problem is that with the 451 returned error from the remote MTA -- xMail seems to have considered this an error because it immediately sent back an eMail to the user with the Subject Error sending message It did NOT retry -- I double checked this by reviewing the log file. Here is what is in the LOG file (please note I removed the original from/to for privacy) : [PeekTime] 1181221418 : Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:03:38 -0400 ErrCode = -77 ErrString = [RCPT TO:] not permitted by remote SMTP server ErrInfo = 451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = mail22.webcontrolcenter.com. SMTP = smtp-x1.phl1.mgfx.com From = dest To = from Failed ! SMTP-Error = 451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds SMTP-Server = mail22.webcontrolcenter.com. The error code -77 translates to ERR_SMTP_BAD_RCPT_TO with the string [RCPT TO:] not permitted by remote SMTP server as shown. I don't think this is correct I am hoping that someone can read the source code better then I can to help figure this out. I don't see any place in the Server.Tab to change this behavior. For xMail to work with other MTAs it needs to follow the RFC 2505 and I think xMail should treat 451 as a soft error? I've just looked back through mails to postmaster and the codes 451 along with -77 are normal for email that is being blocked by greylisting and eventually sent (can't find messages for retry 6). Unfortunately they are normal from a couple of sites where mail is in effect rejected permanently. I see several cases of test emails where reason is given as eg. unacceptable sender address and other similar reasons that might be correctable by the sender. These are not generally problems caused by xmail. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] glst 0.25 reminder if using ipv6
Last night and today I've been overwhelmed by spam, majority being caught by spamassassin. Tonight I noticed glst.dbm hadn't changed since yesterday when I restarted with xmail-1.25-pre16 and ipv6 enabled. I then remembered Davide mentioned a glst update for ipv6, so glst-0.25 now installed, .dbm being updated and again seeing DATA=EFILTER in smtp log. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 12 Jun 2007, at 16:34, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, David Lord wrote: As soon as -P6 and -S6 are added Pegasus/ka9q(dos) doesn't connect to xmail with ka9q log showing connect failed: reset/refused. xmail acts as local smarthost for lan pegasus = ka9q = lan (ip4) = xmail (ip6) = internet = I'll have another play after a nights sleep. I bet NetBSD defaults with IPV6_V6ONLY == 1 ... Yes, it does. You need to set the sysctl net.inet6.ip6.v6only to 0, if you want both IPV4 and IPV6 connectivity. Ok that allowed me to send from dos box and now accepted by xmail but I still get reject from mail.lordynet.me.uk Below are xmail commandline, failure message and capture of telnet session from local mail.lordynet.org to mail.lordynet.me.uk at isp. Do I need to change any of .tab files in /var/MailRoot in order to support ip6? # sysctl net.inet6.ip6.v6only net.inet6.ip6.v6only = 0 # grep '^XMAIL_CMD' /etc/rc.d/xmail XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-M7 -Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 XMAIL_CMD_LINE=$XMAIL_CMD_LINE -P6 -S6 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 Failure message: [00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Network kernel error] [01] Error sending message [1181723954664.3076521984.1.k6x400.home.lordynet.org] from [mail.lordynet.org]. ID:S785D Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server:lordynet.me.uk [lordynet.me.uk] [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: Network kernel error [03] Note: ** This is a temporary error and you do not have to resend the message ** The system tried to send the message at : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:39:14 - ** The current number of delivery attempts is : 1 ** The system will try to resend the message at : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:54:21 - [04] Here is listed the message log file: [PeekTime] 1181723954 : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:39:14 - ErrCode = -3 ErrString = Network kernel error SMAIL SMTP-Send EDNS = lordynet.me.uk SMTP = mail.lordynet.org From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = Network kernel error SMTP-Server = lordynet.me.uk telnet session: bash-3.00$ host k6x400 k6x400.home.lordynet.org has address 192.168.59.60 bash-3.00$ host mail.lordynet.org mail.lordynet.org has address 81.187.61.67 bash-3.00$ telnet -6 mail.lordynet.me.uk 25 Trying 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d... Connected to C.mail.aaisp.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. 220-c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk ESMTP Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:07:08 +0100 220 Welcome ehlo mail.lordynet.org 250-c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk Hello mail.lordynet.org [2001:8b0:1c7:1::1] 250-SIZE 1048576000 250-PIPELINING 250 HELP MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 Accepted QUIT 221 c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. bash-3.00$ cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 13 Jun 2007, at 9:09, David Lord wrote: . Don't know if relevant but I just noticed in failure message I can't see any reference to the mx mail.lordynet.me.uk or mx alias C.mail.aaisp.net.uk. Failure message: [00] XMail bounce: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Error=[Network kernel error] [01] Error sending message [1181723954664.3076521984.1.k6x400.home.lordynet.org] from [mail.lordynet.org]. ID:S785D Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server:lordynet.me.uk [lordynet.me.uk] [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: Network kernel error [03] Note: ** This is a temporary error and you do not have to resend the message ** The system tried to send the message at : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:39:14 - ** The current number of delivery attempts is : 1 ** The system will try to resend the message at : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:54:21 - [04] Here is listed the message log file: [PeekTime] 1181723954 : Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:39:14 - ErrCode = -3 ErrString = Network kernel error SMAIL SMTP-Send EDNS = lordynet.me.uk SMTP = mail.lordynet.org From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = Network kernel error SMTP-Server = lordynet.me.uk - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 13 Jun 2007, at 8:57, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, David Lord wrote: Ok that allowed me to send from dos box and now accepted by xmail but I still get reject from mail.lordynet.me.uk Below are xmail commandline, failure message and capture of telnet session from local mail.lordynet.org to mail.lordynet.me.uk at isp. Do I need to change any of .tab files in /var/MailRoot in order to support ip6? # sysctl net.inet6.ip6.v6only net.inet6.ip6.v6only = 0 # grep '^XMAIL_CMD' /etc/rc.d/xmail XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-M7 -Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 XMAIL_CMD_LINE=$XMAIL_CMD_LINE -P6 -S6 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 There was a bug in -M7 mode. XMail was getting the IPV6 address (when available), but then it was creating an IPV4 socket. Duh! Will be making pre16 later today. Right, thanks will look out for it. bash-3.00$ telnet -6 mail.lordynet.me.uk 25 Trying 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d... Connected to C.mail.aaisp.net.uk. Escape character is '^]'. 220-c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk ESMTP Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:07:08 +0100 220 Welcome ehlo mail.lordynet.org 250-c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk Hello mail.lordynet.org [2001:8b0:1c7:1::1] . Hmmm, this is not XMail, is it? No they use Exim (on Linux I think). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre16
On 13 Jun 2007, at 11:16, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here's -pre16 with the fixes for the problems (yep, more of them) found by David Lord: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre16.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre16.win32bin.zip BTW, nobody tested the newest 1.25 on Windows yet? With pre16 this one went out ok, commandline with -M7 -S6 -P6. Delivery-date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:05:39 +0100 Received: from [2001:8b0:1c7:1::1] (helo=mail.lordynet.org) by c.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) I'll now try to work out how to collect via psync from above server with minimal amount of reconfiguration. cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 10 Jun 2007, at 20:34, David Lord wrote: On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:19, Davide Libenzi wrote: .. I made pre15 with some new -M* options. You can select if to use only IPV4, only IPV6, IPV4 if present or IPV6, IPV6 if present or IPV4. It defaults to the former at the moment. NetBSD 3.1 With xmail-1.25-pre15 email was delivered ok to lordynet.me.uk (with pre14 it failed, likely due to mx having ip6 address). I now have gif0 tunnel sort of working. The endpoint ip4 address is same but its ip6 address had changed. Ntpdate -6 and ftp -6 connections seem to work ok. I tried xmail with -M7 and still had same reject message, but telnet -6 mail.lordynet.me.uk (isp server) gave connection refused so looks like although adverising ip6 address it doesn't allow ip6 connection so I've queried that with isp. The default xmail without -Mn connects by ip4 ok. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: eMail NOT automatically being requeued?
On 12 Jun 2007, at 9:41, Hal Dell wrote: Hello All... I have a sender who is using our xMail infrastructure to send eMails and one such eMail address is associated with the destination eMail Server mail22.webcontrolcenter.com which has implemented Greylisting (For those not familiar with Greylisting is a process by which the remote MTA rejects the eMail from a sender the first time -- every time -- assuming that a SPAM bot or alike does not have the ability to resend). The problem is that I received the error code and message 451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds. In the case of xMail it did not retry to send the eMail. According to RFC2505, 4xx are Transient Negative Completion reply (Temporary Error) and should result in the mail transfer being put back on queue again and a new attempt being made later. That doesn't seem right, as greylisting has been taken up by more providers I've seen temporary failure many times but xmail retries and either delivers or eventually gives up and I get an unable to deliver message. Only unable to deliver have been whilst testing and not to real addresses. Xmail default here was a notification after first temporary failure then after complete failure which might be 4 - 5 days later. I modified notification settings to 1,6,9 attempts but any that have hit 6, all test emails, never get through at all. If I'm desperate I check what is still in spool file that xmail is still trying. One unlikely possibility is the greylisting accept period is too short and after jumping past it there is no possibility mail will get through. What is your server.tab 'NotifyTryPattern' along with xmail commandline, in particular the -Q options if any? I have -Qr (retries) set to 9 rather than default of 32 with Qi to spread retries out more than default. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 12 Jun 2007, at 8:05, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, David Lord wrote: On 10 Jun 2007, at 20:34, David Lord wrote: On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:19, Davide Libenzi wrote: .. I made pre15 with some new -M* options. You can select if to use only IPV4, only IPV6, IPV4 if present or IPV6, IPV6 if present or IPV4. It defaults to the former at the moment. NetBSD 3.1 With xmail-1.25-pre15 email was delivered ok to lordynet.me.uk (with pre14 it failed, likely due to mx having ip6 address). I now have gif0 tunnel sort of working. The endpoint ip4 address is same but its ip6 address had changed. Ntpdate -6 and ftp -6 connections seem to work ok. I tried xmail with -M7 and still had same reject message, but telnet -6 mail.lordynet.me.uk (isp server) gave connection refused so looks like although adverising ip6 address it doesn't allow ip6 connection so I've queried that with isp. The default xmail without -Mn connects by ip4 ok. What's your command line? Almost same as last time you asked :) XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 -Yl -Fl XMAIL_CMD_LINE=$XMAIL_CMD_LINE -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 There was no problem with pre15 behaviour as far as I was able to test with above. I just tried telnet -6 again and this time connected and sent email. I've restarted xmail with addition of -M7 at start of above commandline and get following to postmaster: [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: 417 Temporary delivery error [03] Note: ** This is a temporary error and you do not have to resend the message ** The system tried to send the message at : Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:02:35 - ** The current number of delivery attempts is : 1 ** The system will try to resend the message at : Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:17:42 - [04] Here is listed the message log file: [PeekTime] 1181664155 : Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:02:35 - ErrCode = -3 ErrString = Network kernel error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = C.secondary-mx.co.uk. SMTP = mail.lordynet.org From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = 417 Temporary delivery error SMTP-Server = C.secondary-mx.co.uk. ErrCode = -3 ErrString = Network kernel error SMAIL SMTP-Send MX = tertiary-mx.co.uk. SMTP = mail.lordynet.org From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = 417 Temporary delivery error SMTP-Server = tertiary-mx.co.uk. [05] Here is listed the initial part of the message: Cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 12 Jun 2007, at 12:31, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, David Lord wrote: On 12 Jun 2007, at 8:05, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, David Lord wrote: On 10 Jun 2007, at 20:34, David Lord wrote: On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:19, Davide Libenzi wrote: .. I made pre15 with some new -M* options. You can select if to use only IPV4, only IPV6, IPV4 if present or IPV6, IPV6 if present or IPV4. It defaults to the former at the moment. NetBSD 3.1 With xmail-1.25-pre15 email was delivered ok to lordynet.me.uk (with pre14 it failed, likely due to mx having ip6 address). I now have gif0 tunnel sort of working. The endpoint ip4 address is same but its ip6 address had changed. Ntpdate -6 and ftp -6 connections seem to work ok. I tried xmail with -M7 and still had same reject message, but telnet -6 mail.lordynet.me.uk (isp server) gave connection refused so looks like although adverising ip6 address it doesn't allow ip6 connection so I've queried that with isp. The default xmail without -Mn connects by ip4 ok. What's your command line? Almost same as last time you asked :) XMAIL_CMD_LINE=-Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 -Yl -Fl XMAIL_CMD_LINE=$XMAIL_CMD_LINE -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 There was no problem with pre15 behaviour as far as I was able to test with above. You're not binding to IPV6 addresses. Did you try adding -P6 -S6? As soon as -P6 and -S6 are added Pegasus/ka9q(dos) doesn't connect to xmail with ka9q log showing connect failed: reset/refused. xmail acts as local smarthost for lan pegasus = ka9q = lan (ip4) = xmail (ip6) = internet = I'll have another play after a nights sleep. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 10 Jun 2007, at 12:19, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Ivo Smits wrote: Davide, I've been experimenting with IPv6 (using 6to4), some addresses are not reachable over 6to4, at least telnet and firefox retry over IPv4 after a (too big) delay. I think XMail should do this too, and also needs an option to completely disable (sending over) IPv6 to prevent delays on systems that don't have IPv6. I made pre15 with some new -M* options. You can select if to use only IPV4, only IPV6, IPV4 if present or IPV6, IPV6 if present or IPV4. It defaults to the former at the moment. NetBSD 3.1 With xmail-1.25-pre15 email was delivered ok to lordynet.me.uk (with pre14 it failed, likely due to mx having ip6 address). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Testing your xmail server for SMTP SSL functionality.
On 5 Jun 2007, at 22:48, Rob Arends wrote: I came across this little command, thought someone might find it useful testing SSL on xmail: openssl s_client -showcerts -starttls smtp -connect x35.xmailserver.org:25 It uses openssl to 'telnet' to your smtp server and display a hole heap of info about the SSL info it finds. you will need to QUIT at the end, or you can EHLO, etc. If you need to actually send the email you need -quiet otherwise after RCPT TO: the 'R' is taken as 'R'enegotiate. Anyway thanks as it got me on the way to having both STARTTLS and smtps working at least locally. I'm waiting for my friend on AOL to try it as port 25 is either blocked or proxied, I didn't proceed further than 'telnet mail.lordynet.org 25' from her system as although there appeared to be a connection established it wasn't to xmail. Attempt to send from Evolution on Ubuntu to my server failed on port 25 so I setup to use SSL which I guessed was smtps on port 465 and confirmed when I got back here. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Problem with glst and mail from hotmail
I'm finding that currently hotmail appears to make just one attempt to deliver and then gives up. Of course it's my mailserver that's broken as hotmail is a large organisation and I'm just a hobbyist. What I'd like to be able to do is check for, and if not already present, prime glst.dbm with the hotmail triple for that contact. I could possibly get away with whitelisting the hotmail servers but I'd rather not on principle. This might be a good intro for me to get back into doing some programming but I'm asking in case someone has already done it. I've emailed the sender to resend twice with at least an hour between attempts. I already had an mnet line for hotmail in glst.conf. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 30 May 2007, at 19:04, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here's -pre14 with the fixes for the problems found by David Lord: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre14.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre14.win32bin.zip Compiled and installed ok on NetBSD 3.1. From initial testing it appears to have fixed the problem I had. Unfortunately although xmail had accepted the outgoing emails I now see I have emails to postmaster that there was a 'Network kernel error' in delivering both the test emails, first was from a telnet session (so incomplete set of headers but they've got through before), then another from Pegasus. Third test email to a different isp got through ok. I can see two email in spool/*/*/rsnd and slog are still being retried and both look to me as they should be accepted by the remote server. Just sent another one to each account with same result, lordynet.me.uk gets failed, 'ErrCode = -3', 'Network kernel error' whilst one to freezone.co.uk goes out ok. Just gone back to 1.25-pre11 and email to lordynet.me.uk is delivered ok. David If you enable IPV6 (with -*6, or you bind to an IPV6 address with -*I), GLST does not work ATM, since it does not understand IPV6 addresses. Will be fixed ASAP. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 31 May 2007, at 9:55, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007, David Lord wrote: On 30 May 2007, at 19:04, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here's -pre14 with the fixes for the problems found by David Lord: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre14.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre14.win32bin.zip Compiled and installed ok on NetBSD 3.1. From initial testing it appears to have fixed the problem I had. Unfortunately although xmail had accepted the outgoing emails I now see I have emails to postmaster that there was a 'Network kernel error' in delivering both the test emails, first was from a telnet session (so incomplete set of headers but they've got through before), then another from Pegasus. Third test email to a different isp got through ok. I can see two email in spool/*/*/rsnd and slog are still being retried and both look to me as they should be accepted by the remote server. Just sent another one to each account with same result, lordynet.me.uk gets failed, 'ErrCode = -3', 'Network kernel error' whilst one to freezone.co.uk goes out ok. Are you using the new IPV6 options? Are you explicitly binding to an IPV6 address? Or you just left the same command line options of pre11? I used same commandline as for pre11. From your original post I understood that the IPV6 options were only needed if there was an active IPV6 connection which I no longer have working. -Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 It could be the 1 hr outage yesterday has caused some problem with mail delivery to lordynet.me.uk but I've not seen reports of this. DNS-stuff indicates higher priority MX is giving 550 response to a valid user. That looks like it may be a different problem though. I'll ask on isp's irc channel. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre14
On 31 May 2007, at 12:32, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2007, David Lord wrote: I used same commandline as for pre11. From your original post I understood that the IPV6 options were only needed if there was an active IPV6 connection which I no longer have working. -Md -Mr 168 -Pl -Pw 12 -Sl -Ql -Qg -Qt 907 -Qi 1 -Qr 9 -Yl -Fl -Cl -Ll -Yi 1380 -Lt 19 It could be the 1 hr outage yesterday has caused some problem with mail delivery to lordynet.me.uk but I've not seen reports of this. DNS-stuff indicates higher priority MX is giving 550 response to a valid user. That looks like it may be a different problem though. I'll ask on isp's irc channel. My pre14 is running w/out problems at xmailserver.org. I disabled IPV6 options because GLST is not working ATM. But it ran fine with GLST disabled for a while (modulo some SPAM messages getting through :) Another thing to keep in mind, is that, if your parse IP addresses emitted by XMail (with IPV6 options enabled), IPs are in IPV6 format. Connections coming though a mapped IPV4 network will have the format: :::XXX.YYY.WWW.ZZZ Yes but I don't have any form of IPV6 connectivity, native or via a tunnel or otherwise. That doesn't stop host lookups from returning ipv6 addresses to queries which does cause me some problems where applications don't have a -4 option. With pre11 I don't see any problem. With pre14 I only seem to have a problem with delivery to my lordynet.me.uk domain which always gives the ErrCode = -3 Network kernel error. On switching back to pre11 all the still queued failed emails go out ok. freezone.co.uk mail is handled by 10 mx1.freezone.co.uk. freezone.co.uk mail is handled by 10 mx2.freezone.co.uk. mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.13 mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.18 mx1.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.28 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.14 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.15 mx2.freezone.co.uk has address 62.189.246.16 lordynet.me.uk mail is handled by 30 tertiary-mx.co.uk. lordynet.me.uk mail is handled by 20 C.secondary-mx.co.uk. C.secondary-mx.co.uk has address 81.187.81.13 C.secondary-mx.co.uk has IPv6 address 2001:8b0:0:81::51bb:510d tertiary-mx.co.uk has address 81.187.30.42 tertiary-mx.co.uk has IPv6 address 2001:8b0:0:30::51bb:1e2a When I get a lot of extra time I'll reconfigure firewall so I can use the spare to send emails and Pegasus to use the spare as smarthost. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre12
On 29 May 2007, at 18:57, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here's the *preliminary* release of XMail supporting IPV6: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre12.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre12.win32bin.zip Both IPV4 and IPV6 formats are supposed to be working. The usual IPV4 IPV4:PORT syntax has to become [IPV6]:PORT in case of IPV6. New options -*6 enable listening on IPV6 addresses. On NetBSD 3.1 Compiled and installed ok but I've backed out to pre11 after first outgoing email via xmail as local smarthost gave ERELAY response. I've since attempted to resend and it hit expected greylisting with temporary error. No time to send test mails as I'm off out now so will try again with pre12 this evening. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre12
On 30 May 2007, at 11:20, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, David Lord wrote: On 30 May 2007, at 11:25, David Lord wrote: On 29 May 2007, at 18:57, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here's the *preliminary* release of XMail supporting IPV6: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre12.tar.gz http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre12.win32bin.zip Both IPV4 and IPV6 formats are supposed to be working. The usual IPV4 IPV4:PORT syntax has to become [IPV6]:PORT in case of IPV6. New options -*6 enable listening on IPV6 addresses. On NetBSD 3.1 Compiled and installed ok but I've backed out to pre11 after first outgoing email via xmail as local smarthost gave ERELAY response. I've since attempted to resend and it hit expected greylisting with temporary error. No time to send test mails as I'm off out now so will try again with pre12 this evening. Had to change plans for this afternoon and now another waste of time as I find my ISP is currently under DOS attack so connectivity is poor to nonexistant. Anyway back on pre11 can confirm xmail again accepts emails from hosts on lan and has eventually delivered them ok. Tried again with pre12 this time to one of my remote test accounts so no greylist problem, and again outgoing email is blocked by ERELAY. Back on pre11 confirmed again that outgoing email is delivered ok. I lost my ip6 tunnel after I had a change of ip block in January and managed to wipe my original settings so no longer have ip6 working. DNS still returns the ip6 address as well as ip4 and in can cause minor problems with delay before ip4 address gets used. Can you show me the content of smtprelay.tab? Same as from late January when public ips changed. $ cat /var/MailRoot/smtprelay.tab 127.0.0.1TAB255.255.255.255 192.168.59.0TAB255.255.255.0 81.187.247.86TAB255.255.255.255 81.187.61.64TAB255.255.255.240 $ David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre12
On 30 May 2007, at 14:13, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007, David Lord wrote: On 30 May 2007, at 18:57, David Lord wrote: On 30 May 2007, at 11:20, Davide Libenzi wrote: .. Can you show me the content of smtprelay.tab? Same as from late January when public ips changed. $ cat /var/MailRoot/smtprelay.tab 127.0.0.1TAB255.255.255.255 192.168.59.0TAB255.255.255.0 81.187.247.86TAB255.255.255.255 81.187.61.64TAB255.255.255.240 $ I just updated spare server from 1.22 to 1.25-pre12. I've not made the more recent changes/additions to server.tab re SSL/TLS as per running mailserver on 1.25-pre11 and a quick test with telnet shows it accepting mail ok. I'll do some more checking. Try to run in debug mode (-Md) from a console, not from a daemonize script. Then show me what's the output when you connect to the SMTP port. OK but first I need to get as near as possible same config on spare server as on the public facing server and hope spare server then blocks local connections with ERELAY. If that doesn't happen I'll have to rely on secondary MX whilst I do the testing on main server. I don't want to risk rejecting wanted emails with relay denied. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre12
On 30 May 2007, at 22:24, xmail@xmailserver.org wrote: On 30 May 2007, at 14:13, Davide Libenzi wrote: ... Try to run in debug mode (-Md) from a console, not from a daemonize script. Then show me what's the output when you connect to the SMTP port. OK but first I need to get as near as possible same config on spare server as on the public facing server and hope spare server then blocks local connections with ERELAY. If that doesn't happen I'll have to rely on secondary MX whilst I do the testing on main server. I don't want to risk rejecting wanted emails with relay denied. Probably tomorrow evening when I get round to further testing. Here are slightly munged log entries that may help: 1.25-pre11 mail.lordynet.org mail.lordynet.org 192.168.59.214 2007-05-30 12:13:32 dosbox.local.domain remote.domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] S73DF RCPT=OK 0 1.25-pre12 mail.lordynet.org mail.lordynet.org 192.168.59.214 2007-05-30 12:29:03 dosbox.local.domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] S73E3 RCPT=ERELAY 0 dosbox.local.domain 1.25-pre11 mail.lordynet.org mail.lordynet.org 192.168.59.214 2007-05-30 13:33:42 dosbox.local.domain remote.domain [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] S73E6 RCPT=OK 0 David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre12
On 30 May 2007, at 16:12, Davide Libenzi wrote:
Can you try to build the program below, and then run?
$ ./ipaddr 192.168.59.0 255.255.255.0
- Davide
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/socket.h
#include stdio.h
#include netinet/in.h
#include netdb.h
#include string.h
static const char *afname(int ipfam) {
switch (ipfam) {
case AF_INET:
return ipv4;
case AF_INET6:
return ipv6;
}
return ;
}
static int numip(char const *ipname) {
int error, ipfam;
struct addrinfo *cares, *ares;
struct addrinfo hints;
printf(Looking up: %s\n, ipname);
memset(hints, 0, sizeof(hints));
hints.ai_family = AF_UNSPEC;
if ((error = getaddrinfo(ipname, NULL, hints, ares)) != 0) {
perror(getaddrinfo);
return error;
}
for (cares = ares; cares != NULL; cares = cares-ai_next) {
ipfam = *(unsigned short *) cares-ai_addr;
printf(Found: family='%s' fnbr=%u len=%u\n, afname(ipfam),
ipfam, cares-ai_addrlen);
}
freeaddrinfo(ares);
return 0;
}
int main(int ac, char **av) {
int i;
for (i = 1; i ac; i++)
numip(av[i]);
return 0;
}
First after making a few of changes to server.tab on the spare system
it gave relay denied at 'RCPT TO:' same as other system had done.
Other than 'cosmetic' changes to get configs closer, eg. Maxerrors
increased from 2 to 3, only ones I think made the difference are:
SmtpNoSSLAuths 1
EnableCTRL-TLS 0
EnableSMTP-TLS 0
EnablePOP3-TLS 0
Only guessing how to proceed with above code but looks as if
something bad happened.
$ c++ -v -o ipaddr2 ipaddr.cpp
Using built-in specs.
Configured with:
/home/nick/work/netbsd/src/tools/gcc/../../gnu/dist/gcc/configure
--enable-long-long --disable-multilib --enable-threads --disable-symvers
--build=i386-unknown-netbsdelf2.0. --host=i386--netbsdelf
--target=i386--netbsdelf
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3.3 (NetBSD nb3 20040520)
/usr/bin/../libexec/cc1plus -quiet -v -iprefix /usr/bin/../libexec/
-D__GNUC__=3 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=3 -D__GNUC_PATCHLEVEL__=3 ipaddr.cpp -D__GNUG__=3
-quiet -dumpbase ipaddr.cpp -auxbase ipaddr -version -o /var/tmp//ccfdFz79.s
GNU C++ version 3.3.3 (NetBSD nb3 20040520) (i386--netbsdelf)
compiled by GNU C version 3.3.3 (NetBSD nb3 20040520).
GGC heuristics: --param ggc-min-expand=38 --param ggc-min-heapsize=16384
ignoring nonexistent directory /usr/libexec/include/g++
ignoring nonexistent directory /usr/libexec/include/g++/backward
ignoring nonexistent directory /usr/libexec/include
#include ... search starts here:
#include ... search starts here:
/usr/include/g++
/usr/include/g++/backward
/usr/include
End of search list.
as -o /var/tmp//cctFamJf.o /var/tmp//ccfdFz79.s
ld -dc -dp -e __start -dynamic-linker /usr/libexec/ld.elf_so -o ipaddr2
/usr/lib/crt0.o /usr/lib/crti.o /usr/lib/crtbegin.o -L/usr/bin/../libexec
/var/tmp//cctFamJf.o -lstdc++ -lm -lgcc_s -lgcc -lc -lgcc_s -lgcc
/usr/lib/crtend.o /usr/lib/crtn.o
$ ./ipaddr2 192.168.59.0 255.255.255.0
Looking up: 192.168.59.0
Found: family='' fnbr=528 len=16
Found: family='' fnbr=528 len=16
Looking up: 255.255.255.0
Found: family='' fnbr=528 len=16
Found: family='' fnbr=528 len=16
David
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[xmail] Re: News DNS problem with 1.25pre09 not in 1.24
On 1 May 2007, at 7:07, Ana Paula Fernandes wrote: Hi, I have testing 1.25-pre09 for some days in the normal production server. I have found one case when XMail resolve DNS with incorrect MX server. Domain: ps5.com.br XMail is trying delivery to server gordo.ps5.com.br or sputinik.ps5.com.br (this is a NS for domain) The correct MX server is spirit.ps5.com.br (none try for this server). The XMail not create the DNS cache file for this domain. I send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a webmail gmail.com account and i receive a normal error with User unknown in local recipient table I have deleted the dnscache folder to confirm this. Somebody can send test to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and report result? [PeekTime] 1177381349 : Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:22:29 -0300 ErrCode = -40 ErrString = Invalid server address ErrInfo = gordo.ps5.com.br. SMAIL SMTP-Send EDNS = ps5.com.br SMTP = hm.mydomain.com From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = Invalid server address SMTP-Server = ps5.com.br [PeekTime] 1177383509 : Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:58:29 -0300 ErrCode = -40 ErrString = Invalid server address ErrInfo = sputinik.ps5.com.br. SMAIL SMTP-Send EDNS = ps5.com.br SMTP = hm.mydomain.com.br From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] To = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed ! SMTP-Error = Invalid server address SMTP-Server = ps5.com.br I running under W2K SP4. Sorry I can't see that on NetBSD. ID:S6BC4 Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rcpt To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Server:spirit.ps5.com.br. [spirit.ps5.com.br.] [02] The reason of the delivery failure was: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: User unknown in local recipient table David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS
On 30 Apr 2007, at 8:33, Edmonds, J.B. wrote: The smptgw.tab is just what I am looking for (granularity). I don't know how to tell whether to use Login, CRAM-MD5 or Plain for the relay server. In debug mode it doesn't show the actual interchange between the servers (or I don't know how to see it, this would actually be useful to log all of it). I also cant tell if its actually working? It doesn't appear to be since the response back is exactly the same once I configured the tab file and userauth\smtp file. It is unclear as to when to use smtpgw.tab or smtpfwd.tab to route outging through an ISP's server. I don't need to route everything, just some domains that block me directly.=20 It would be nice if in the docs that there was a lead paragraph for each tab file that gave its purpose and normal usage. Some are self explanatory and some are puzzling for a guy like me who only delves into this when I have a problem. I would actually tackle it myself but just don't have the in-depth knowledge. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Arends Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:36 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS See here: http://www.xmailserver.org/Readme.html#smtp_client_authentication=20 Either set up server.tab defaultsmtpgateway[tab]mail.isp.com Or add to smtpgw.tab *[tab]mail.isp.com Then in $mailroot/userauth/smtp create file mail.isp.com.tab In it add LOGIN[tab]username[tab]password Now, I've never tried this, but the doco is clear. Note: that LOGIN may be substituted as per the doco. I expect that if you use an IP Address for the gateway, then the userauth/smtp file would be 1.2.3.4.tab (just guessing). Note that the smtpgw.tab file method gives greater granularity in case you want to send mail for some domains to another relay. Rob :-) =20 _ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... =20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:06 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS Thanks, it appears I can relay but must logon, presenting a different setup up problem. How to do this in xmail?=3D20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Arends Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:01 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS First thing to find out is if your ISP will allow you to relay for free. Second thing is, if you use SPF records, then include your ISP outgoing IP address(es) in your SPF record. Then if at least #1, then relay via ISP. Those MTAs that deny mail from dynamic IPs, must not deny from the MTAs of that ISP. Rob :-) =3D20 _ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... =3D20 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edmonds, J.B. Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:52 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: Dynamic DNS That's exactly my concern. I could be paying 3 cents per recipient to have the mail relayed, just to have it blocked anyway since the recipient's server does not allow relayed traffic from any = source.=3D3D20 I am looking for a better solution. I still use dos/ka9q/pmail with smarthost set to xmail, however one of the options in ka9q config is to first try delivery to MX and fallback to smarthost on failure. Back when I was on dialup this solved problem getting mail through to AOL at various times and otherwise minimised dialup charges. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre03 ...
On 9 Apr 2007, at 1:04, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here it is: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre03.tar.gz First failure to build one in a long time. NetBSD 3.1.0_PATCH SysDepUnix.cpp: In function 'int SysStackAlloc(ThreadStack**, int)'; SysDepUnix.cpp:1121: error: 'PTHREAD_STACK_MIN' undeclared (first use this function) SysDepUnix.cpp:1129: error: 'MAP_ANONYMOUS' undeclared David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre03 ...
On 9 Apr 2007, at 9:15, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, David Lord wrote: On 9 Apr 2007, at 1:04, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here it is: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre03.tar.gz First failure to build one in a long time. NetBSD 3.1.0_PATCH SysDepUnix.cpp: In function 'int SysStackAlloc(ThreadStack**, int)'; SysDepUnix.cpp:1121: error: 'PTHREAD_STACK_MIN' undeclared (first use this function) SysDepUnix.cpp:1129: error: 'MAP_ANONYMOUS' undeclared MAP_ANONYMOUS seems not supported on NetBSD. Use MAP_ANON that is the same. With change to MAP_ANON that error went away. Can you try to find+grep PTHREAD_STACK_MIN inside /usr/include? Let me know ... 64 lines with PTHREAD none with PTHREAD_STACK cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre03 ...
On 9 Apr 2007, at 16:09, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, David Lord wrote: On 9 Apr 2007, at 9:15, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, David Lord wrote: On 9 Apr 2007, at 1:04, Davide Libenzi wrote: Here it is: http://www.xmailserver.org/xmail-1.25-pre03.tar.gz First failure to build one in a long time. NetBSD 3.1.0_PATCH SysDepUnix.cpp: In function 'int SysStackAlloc(ThreadStack**, int)'; SysDepUnix.cpp:1121: error: 'PTHREAD_STACK_MIN' undeclared (first use this function) SysDepUnix.cpp:1129: error: 'MAP_ANONYMOUS' undeclared MAP_ANONYMOUS seems not supported on NetBSD. Use MAP_ANON that is the same. With change to MAP_ANON that error went away. Can you try to find+grep PTHREAD_STACK_MIN inside /usr/include? Let me know ... 64 lines with PTHREAD none with PTHREAD_STACK Could you give a spin to pre04? No errors and now installed. Abuse.net relaytest checked ok. cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.25-pre03 ...
On 9 Apr 2007, at 17:13, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, David Lord wrote: Could you give a spin to pre04? No errors and now installed. Abuse.net relaytest checked ok. Thanks for testing! Your welcome Oh and no longer get the ENODNS when connecting to my server as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and CheckMailerDomain=1, although I don't normally have that setting enabled. Cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: ENODNS Error
On 7 Apr 2007, at 20:08, Don Drake wrote: I don't get it. I just upgraded to 1.24 (more emails on that later), and I'm still getting ENODNS from @returns.bulk.yahoo.com. I just commented out my SmartDNSHost setting and cleared dnscache and it's still occurring. Now that I'm grasping for straws, the from email is quite large (it's 99 characters), would that matter? Just be clear, CheckMailerDomain checks that the 'MAIL FROM:' domain exists (MX or A record) and not the IP/name of the sender? -Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Davide Libenzi Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 1:39 PM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: ENODNS Error On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Don Drake wrote: Sure do: SmartDNSHost 10.1.0.15:tcp,216.86.146.9:udp Then you have to see MX queries, unless they're cached. The *only* way you get into the ENODNS error, if after XMail tried MX queries before and A record after. I normally have CheckMailerDomain disabled and just tried with MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it was accepted. Then enabled CheckMailerDomain and same MAIL FROM: is rejected with 505 Your domain has not DNS/MX entries This is 1.25-pre02. 'host returns.bulk.yahoo.com' gives list of six mx hosts, c1.bullet.mud.yahoo.com etc, and for each of those I see what appears to be an A record. Now I try MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK Now I try MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 OK Now I disable CheckMailerDomain again. So there is something odd about returns.bulk.yahoo.com. That's about my limit to working out dns issues. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Another dns query - xmailserver.org.blackhole.securitysage.com
I've just noticed named is throwing up an error each time a connection is made from xmailserver.org. unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving 'xmailserver.org.blackhole.securitysage.com/A/IN' Looking back through logs I see this started on April 4. Any ideas what this is due to? I'll try to work out what changes I made recently but guess it's from my isps nameserver as start of problem coincides with problem there. I've restarted xmail just in case. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Another dns query - xmailserver.org.blackhole.securitysage.com
On 8 Apr 2007, at 23:09, David Lord wrote: I've just noticed named is throwing up an error each time a connection is made from xmailserver.org. unexpected RCODE (SERVFAIL) resolving 'xmailserver.org.blackhole.securitysage.com/A/IN' Looking back through logs I see this started on April 4. Any ideas what this is due to? I'll try to work out what changes I made recently but guess it's from my isps nameserver as start of problem coincides with problem there. I've restarted xmail just in case. A google indicated it was from a blocking list that's now offline. I use spamassassin and that is one of the lists it was configured to use. Sorry for the noise. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Is GLST still being developed?
On 30 Mar 2007, at 7:40, Dale Qualls wrote: Davide: Freshmeat.net shows no activity for 19 months, is it a mature product that needs no development (based on the functionality)? Anyone using it? I'm seriously considering it (or maia, something to GL). I suspect a lot are. Now spamassassin has almost no work to do. From a few hundred per day with SA diverting around 80% I now just see a few spam per week, less than one per day. I'm just dreading when spammers find a way around it. I'm also getting lots of first time 'temporary failure, try again' rsponses when sending emails that would indicate that it is being widely used. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Problem sending local mail on private network
I'm sure this used to work. Sending mail from eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work and gives an error in slog: ErrCode = -215 ErrString = DNS name not exist Recipient domain fileserver.home does not exist -bash [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ host fileserver fileserver.home has address 192.168.59.22 Using telnet to send to fileserver works ok. If I put an entry for fileserver.home in smtpfwd.tab the mail is delivered ok. This has the problem that some hosts get dynamic ips. Is there another setting that I've missed or is it designed to work this way? XMail 1.25pre02 on mail and 1.22 on fileserver. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem sending local mail on private network
On 16 Mar 2007, at 0:16, David Lord wrote: I never thought to try sending from fileserver.home to mail.home and find that works ok, so something different between my 1.22 and 1.25 setups. I'm sure this used to work. Sending mail from eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work and gives an error in slog: ErrCode = -215 ErrString = DNS name not exist Recipient domain fileserver.home does not exist -bash [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ host fileserver fileserver.home has address 192.168.59.22 Using telnet to send to fileserver works ok. If I put an entry for fileserver.home in smtpfwd.tab the mail is delivered ok. This has the problem that some hosts get dynamic ips. Is there another setting that I've missed or is it designed to work this way? XMail 1.25pre02 on mail and 1.22 on fileserver. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Problem sending local mail on private network
On 15 Mar 2007, at 18:00, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, David Lord wrote: I'm sure this used to work. Sending mail from eg [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work and gives an error in slog: ErrCode = -215 ErrString = DNS name not exist Recipient domain fileserver.home does not exist -bash [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ host fileserver fileserver.home has address 192.168.59.22 Using telnet to send to fileserver works ok. If I put an entry for fileserver.home in smtpfwd.tab the mail is delivered ok. This has the problem that some hosts get dynamic ips. Is there another setting that I've missed or is it designed to work this way? XMail 1.25pre02 on mail and 1.22 on fileserver. The fileserver.home is not a public server, and likely does not have an MX record, so the only way is smtpfwd.tab. You could setup an MX record in your DNS *and* set SmartDNSHost to your DNS server. But the first option is the simpler. Thanks, There are no MX as unless someone can tell me different, this would require a separate zone file per host and would be a problem with the dynamic ips. This is a change from 1.22 as sending from that to a non mx host works ok. I don't have any mail being sent between hosts that would break by the change and was just making some quick tests so for my purposes using smtpfwd.tab is acceptable. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: ClamAV usage with XMail
On 12 Feb 2007, at 20:28, Brian wrote: Any opinions on using ClamAV with XMail? How good is ClamAV and is it secure / stable? I installed both fprot and clamav on NetBSD with intention of using whichever I managed to get working first which turned out to be fprot. I've no reason to suspect clamav is any less useful than fprot and it might even be more configurable. I suspect glst prevents the server seeing many viruses and so far fprot hasn't let any through to my users (me). David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: wlex doubt
On 25 Jan 2007, at 16:29, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, David Lord wrote: On 23 Jan 2007, at 7:54, Filip Supera wrote: Davide Libenzi a écrit : Hmmm, that shouldn't happen. Did anyone else have problems with wlex? Does anyone else use wlex with success ? I thought I was but turns out not until tonight had a 451 temporary failure then added wlex and within timeo the following attempt was accepted as was another email to a different account that would have otherwise had the 451. Can you explain in simpler words? :) Did it work or not? Yes it works. I'd not noticed any problems previously without 'wlex' either even though outgoing via xmail as smarthost was being filtered with first attempts to any recipient delayed by glist. I'm not sure if any added security was outweighed by inconvenience of the delay. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: wlex doubt
On 23 Jan 2007, at 7:54, Filip Supera wrote: Davide Libenzi a écrit : Hmmm, that shouldn't happen. Did anyone else have problems with wlex? Does anyone else use wlex with success ? I thought I was but turns out not until tonight had a 451 temporary failure then added wlex and within timeo the following attempt was accepted as was another email to a different account that would have otherwise had the 451. xmail-1.24 on NetBSD David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: I'm trying to migrate to V1.24
On 23 Jan 2007, at 18:05, Hal Dell wrote: Hello all... I attempted a migration to v1.24 and also tighten down xMail SMTP server to reject more SPAM. I have set CheckMailerDomain=1 and SMTP-RDNSCheck=1. I would first like somone point me to a web page or other documenation that can provide me a little detail about these checks and how the 220 message plays a role in these checks. That worked perfectly when I tried it as it coincided with a friends organisation change of ISP during which period their DNS was screwed (maybe for a month or more). I had a phone call asking me why I was bouncing his emails so set the options to: # CheckMailerDomain 1 SMTP-RDNSCheck -2 ie. disabled CheckMailerDomain and apply 2 sec delay to responses where RDNS check failed. I was led to believe lots of spam and virus distribution was by dumb scripts that don't wait for a server response so the delay causes the session to fail. At least at the time this seemed to make a large impact in reduction of unwanted email. I found a delay of 15 sec was too much for some impatient mailers whilst 2 sec seemed enough. Through last year the levels of spam via genuine mailers increased to point where spamassassin was catching 100 per day and 20 per day going to users so a bit late I tried 'glist' which made another large difference so spamassassin still occasionally catches one and users get just a few per day. I believe spamassassin needs sufficient bad emails to keep it going. So far as I know there are no false positives. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: gun for hire
On 15 Jan 2007, at 20:49, Rob Arends wrote: 4. What did you find in your logs? Anything abnormal from IPs other than 10.10.10.99? Your scripts on the server - are they webforms where email can be sent? (you know, contact us forms) There are known vulnerabilities in some web forms where they are used to send spam. I'd check if the volume of emails from your scripts is abnormally high. The problem you have is not to do with xmail (unless you've made it an open relay). The problem will be in your scripts or some other source of emails. Your logs will have the answers, analyze them !! To check if your xmail is an open relay, use the following test. From the xmail server, telnet to: relay-test.mail-abuse.org The server there will open a connection to tcp/25 on the ip address that you are sending from and issue a dozen or so relay tests. The progress is issued back to your telnet session. This needs to report a closed relay. In an earler post Erwin mentioned he'd already checked with abuse.net and failed a relay attempt (see below). When I used abuse.net so it would detect xmail relaying (it wasn't actually), it didn't continue past the failed attempt whilst with normal xmail setup there have been 17 failed relay attempts when test is passed. I don't think anyone picked up on that message to request further details. I was offline for a while and now on dialup for a few weeks. David # Another question (sorry about this but as you might guess I'm not really a computer wiz). I've tested relaying at abuse.net and my xmail server accepted a third party mail relay. This cannot be good right? # - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.23-pre15 status ...
On 18 Nov 2006, at 16:22, Davide Libenzi wrote: How many are running it and did any problem show up? I'd go for 1.23 final if everything is going fine ... There were no problems using pre14 since Nov 13, and I've just compiled and installed pre15 this morning (NetBSD 3.1RC1). Test mails came through ok. Cheers David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: 1.23-pre10 ...
On 6 Nov 2006, at 12:05, Davide Libenzi wrote: At this point, I really can't think of any reason why we shouldn't have a pre11 too :) Well I'm happy with 1.22 although last week had internet connection problems and for first time a requeue function would have been welcome. As it was I just rm'ed the one email that I needed to get out straight away from the queue and resend. Problem seemed to be that any load on outgoing traffic dropped the adsl connection so number in queue just built up. Whatever the problem was seemed to have been cleared ok as resend went straight through rather than after several hours. Remainder went on their next retry times. I've not been able to compile for NetBSD 3.1 same as with 3,0 but this time it's not just the new statvfs that replaces statfs but another error comes up afterwards. SysDepBSD.cpp: In function 'int SysNextFile(long unsigned int, char*)': SysDepBSD.cpp:2008:error: 'struct FileFindData' has no member named 'DE' It's too long ago since I compiled 1.22 that I can't remember if this came up but a diff of that SysDepBSD.cpp and my NetBSD one only picks up the couple of lines changed to statvfs. I think the possible out of memory error I had with 3.0 and on is still there in 3.1 but the crude fix of limiting number of connections by only allowing two of spamd or fprot filters to run has meant I've not had any further issue. I'll look at this futher if I get time but more likely for when you're starting on 1.24. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: mail() function and smtp relay settings
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14 Jun 2006, at 15:06, Gideon So wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your prompt answers. I tried all the advices you all provided here I found that there is nothing do with the smtprelay saettings. While I try to send mail in command line (I am using linux) like this: mail xxx(at)yyy.com subject: this is a test test .. CC: I get this error: cannot move file /var/MailRoot/spool/temp/*.*.mail Any more hints on this one?? What are ownerships and permissions of spool, spool/tmp and spool/local? Here on FreeBSD and NetBSD I have them chown xmail:xmail, spool is chmod 770 and both temp and local chmod 755. BSD has a mailer.conf and sendmail is set to /var/MailRoot/bin/sendmail which is chmod 4755. The alias send-mail is used for original sendmail. I use 'send-mail -t' or 'sendmail -t' for messages that are already complete with headers, or as per examples in README.txt. sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg.txt or sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --input-file msg.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 -- QDPGP 2.65 Comment: http://community.wow.net/grt/qdpgp.html iQA/AwUBRI/3QK2RmIodDo7KEQL+CwCeMPNxip/Rolnos5SJi0ShaYDr7gUAoJQv Gig7DEzPOpql2D9aEU9Le1bM =Hyoy -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Coredumps on NetBSD-3.0 - XMail memory settings
On 12 Jun 2006, at 17:21, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, David Lord wrote: This now looks as though I've been picking up NetBSD 2 packages rather than NetBSD 3. I noticed a while back that new install of lsof from a package was complaining it was 2.0 so checked on gmake binary which hadn't changed from before I thought I'd updated all packages after update from v2 to v3. A new gmake compiled from source gives significantly different sized xmail binaries. I'll attempt a complete recompile of all packages, either on the fast desktop or server itself if it stays up a while longer. PC's had another 64 MB ram to take it to 128 MB. I've also installed and configured both fprot and spamassassin. These cause core dumps on getting many simultaneous connections and XMail dies without core dump. Last one was 01:23 GMT when I mailed myself six test mails. I've now set spamassassin to check maximum of two emails at once and modified fprot script to do similar. It just handled nine without problem (3 x spam, 3 x virus, 3 x clean) RCPTs over 5 sec RECVs +3sec to +4 sec later. Is there an OOM killer that gets triggered on NetBSD? I can't say for this particular pc as it could still be contaminated with one or more binaries from earlier version. I won't be happt until I move to new pc that's not had any earlier version installed. I tried to run gdb last night specifying the running XMail and pid. gdb-internal-error: legacy_fetch_link_map_offsets called without legacy link_map support enabled. I've no experience of debugging so just grepped for some setting to enable that support without success. I also tried make of gdb from source which fell over after some long period with top showing very high cpu and free memory down to a few hundred KB. Eventual error was that pkgsrc gdb was broken and would be dropped if not fixed. I'd like confirmation from another user of XMail on NetBSD 3.0 that it's running fine or otherwise. That's as far as I've got although I've now replaced most precompiled packages with ones compiled on desktop and had no more coredumps from XMail. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Coredumps on NetBSD-3.0 - XMail memory settings
On 3 Jun 2006, at 9:35, David Lord wrote: snipped This now looks as though I've been picking up NetBSD 2 packages rather than NetBSD 3. I noticed a while back that new install of lsof from a package was complaining it was 2.0 so checked on gmake binary which hadn't changed from before I thought I'd updated all packages after update from v2 to v3. A new gmake compiled from source gives significantly different sized xmail binaries. I'll attempt a complete recompile of all packages, either on the fast desktop or server itself if it stays up a while longer. PC's had another 64 MB ram to take it to 128 MB. I've also installed and configured both fprot and spamassassin. These cause core dumps on getting many simultaneous connections and XMail dies without core dump. Last one was 01:23 GMT when I mailed myself six test mails. I've now set spamassassin to check maximum of two emails at once and modified fprot script to do similar. It just handled nine without problem (3 x spam, 3 x virus, 3 x clean) RCPTs over 5 sec RECVs +3sec to +4 sec later. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Coredumps on NetBSD-3.0 - XMail memory settings
On 1 Jun 2006, at 17:49, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2006, David Lord wrote: I'm not sure of exact cause but I'm getting fairly regular coredumps from XMail on NetBSD-3.0. Whist the fd-open files issue on my FreeBSD setup isn't apparent it is still an annoyance and if anything was a little more frequent, 2 - 3 days vs 2 - 3 weeks. I've been able to produce a coredump by a kernel compile and have noticed that attempting to send to multiple domains or make multiple pop3 connections. This was apparent to a much lesser extent on FreeBSD. NetBSD server has 64 MB ram and vmstat has avm = 35332 fre = 7976 whilst FreeBSD one has 128 MB with avm = 47528 and fre = 25464. So my best guess was a problem memory and reducing the values of SmtpMinVirtMemSpace and Pop3MinVirtMemSpace from 1 to 5000 in steps of 1000 seems to confirm this. At around 8000 an improvement in that starting a kernel compile didn't produce an immediate coredump and at 7000 some compiles completed and so far at 5000 I've not had a coredump. So are SmtpMinVirtMemSpace and Pop3MinVirtMemSpace where the problem lies and if so what values should I be using or could eliminating the problem require adjusting one of the NetBSD memory sysctls? Hmmm, does NetBSD have an OOM killer in the kernel? Can you build XMail in debug mode and send a gdb `bt full`? Sorry I'll have to put this on hold for a while as configuring replacement server which is a mini-itx with 1 GB ram. I'll get the info (for which I'd need to do some reading up) after new system is online. I have a cron job that cleans up and restarts xmail should it stop but in normal server operation it's only when there are multiple smtp or pop3 connections being made. I did notice a couple of sysctls that might be relevant, eg. sysctl vm.anonmin = 10. This is minimum vm available as % of total so 6400 KB which might explain why I've not had a coredump so far with *MinVirtMemSpace in server.tab set to 4000. I might try another kernel compile with the sysctl = 20% and *MinVirtMemSpace back to 1 which ensured XMail would coredump on starting the compile. Regards David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Coredumps on NetBSD-3.0 - XMail memory settings
I'm not sure of exact cause but I'm getting fairly regular coredumps from XMail on NetBSD-3.0. Whist the fd-open files issue on my FreeBSD setup isn't apparent it is still an annoyance and if anything was a little more frequent, 2 - 3 days vs 2 - 3 weeks. I've been able to produce a coredump by a kernel compile and have noticed that attempting to send to multiple domains or make multiple pop3 connections. This was apparent to a much lesser extent on FreeBSD. NetBSD server has 64 MB ram and vmstat has avm = 35332 fre = 7976 whilst FreeBSD one has 128 MB with avm = 47528 and fre = 25464. So my best guess was a problem memory and reducing the values of SmtpMinVirtMemSpace and Pop3MinVirtMemSpace from 1 to 5000 in steps of 1000 seems to confirm this. At around 8000 an improvement in that starting a kernel compile didn't produce an immediate coredump and at 7000 some compiles completed and so far at 5000 I've not had a coredump. So are SmtpMinVirtMemSpace and Pop3MinVirtMemSpace where the problem lies and if so what values should I be using or could eliminating the problem require adjusting one of the NetBSD memory sysctls? David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Re[2]: Unable to mail to list
On 17 Mar 2006, at 10:58, Jorn Hass wrote: Hello David, I have sent a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] earlier today, in order to see if the A record made any difference. The e-mail has been accepted by the remote side... I am now waiting for a response from the list server... I even white-listed the xmailserver.org server on GLST, but then again, I don't see any connections whatsoever from the xmailserver.org... :( Very strange. Perhaps the filter at xmailserver.org is not seeing the Received: headers. I've noticed X-AuthUser: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is first line I see here. Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mailbox.is.co.za ([196.35.45.20]:52338) by mail.lordynet.org with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id S41D6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:58:25 - X-AuthUser: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost ([196.14.169.11]:49128) by mailbox.is.co.za with [XMail 1.22 ESMTP Server] id S135F6 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:58:14 +0200 Regards David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Unable to mail to list
On 15 Mar 2006, at 15:06, Jorn Hass wrote: Hi Had a mail from Jorn Hass (jornh_at_staffmail.is.co.za) this morning as he's not been able to get mail into the list since Feb 22. All I can see is that there doesn't seem to be an NS for staffmail.is.co.za nor any A record although there is an MX pointing to maibox.is.co.za. Other possibility is that filters are dropping his mails which I believe are being accepted by the server. Any ideas? Hello David, Thanks for the reply. Everything worked fine up till the 22nd, and nothing has changed on the DNS side. (I know, as my team manages the is.co.za zonefile... :) All of my mails are accepted by the xmailserver.org, but it seems as if they get discarded internally, without any notification? If it was a SORBS blacklisting, I would see that on the logs, but it doesn't show. As to the no A record, that is only used for legacy mailers, that do not understand MX records, which I do not think is the issue here, as it has always worked... We always ensure that all our mail servers only accepts from valid domains, and I'm not seeing this issue anywhere else that I send to, using our setups... I have a hunch that one of Davide's filters is being overzealous, and dropping my e-mails. Maybe even Ecartis itself. Almost like I got black-holed, yet I cannot see why. Can you possibly just pass my query on to Davide, for him to check please? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Unable to compile Xmail on NetBSD 3.0
On 11 Mar 2006, at 8:37, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, David Lord wrote: Well it was quite a while back (Jan 17). g++ -O2 -I. -D__UNIX__ -D__BSD__ -D__NETBSD__ -D_REENTRANT=1 -D_THREAD_SAFE=1 -DHAS_SYSMACHINE -c SysDep.cpp In file included from SysDep.cpp:40: SysDepBSD.cpp: In function `int SysGetDiskSpace(const char*, SYS_INT64*, SYS_INT64*)': SysDepBSD.cpp:2429: error: aggregate `statfs SFS' has incomplete type and cannot be defined SysDepBSD.cpp:2431: error: invalid use of undefined type `struct statfs' SysDepBSD.cpp:2429: error: forward declaration of `struct statfs' gmake: *** [SysDep.o] Error 1 It didn't get very far. I can post full output 4.5k but that was first error encountered. I've not had any other unexplained problem during setting up this server. xmail-1.21 compiled ok on the k6-400 with NetBSD 2.0 (gcc 2.95) but on trying again after update to NetBSD 3.0 (gcc 3.3.3) and failure of xmail-1.22 to compile I found that wouldn't compile either and gave same error. That would suggest I try again with gcc 2.95 which I'll try after working out how I can safely install it without messing up existing setup. Ok, now I remember. This is not a gcc problem. You seem to be missing (or have a broken setup) of the libc development package (dunno how it is called in NetBSD. Thanks Davide I just found this in /usr/src/UPDATING 20040418: statfs(2) and friends have been replaced by statvfs(2). ... In addition your libc build might not work (undefined SYS_statfs symbol) because make clean does not know how to remove files it does not know about anymore. So that's got me progressed a bit further and seems to be related as my hack was to change statfs to statvfs in SysDepBSD.cpp. However I thought there were compatibility settings in use that were supposed to handle this and the suggested solution above doesn't seem applicable. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Unable to compile Xmail on NetBSD 3.0
On 7 Mar 2006, at 7:54, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, David Lord wrote: Update on my problem with xmail-1.22 failing to compile on NetBSD 3.0/i386. Still no luck with this. It would be nice to hear from someone that is using xmailserver with NetBSD 3.0/i386. Sorry, I have a very short memory ;) What was the problem with this? Did you post build errors? Well it was quite a while back (Jan 17). g++ -O2 -I. -D__UNIX__ -D__BSD__ -D__NETBSD__ -D_REENTRANT=1 -D_THREAD_SAFE=1 -DHAS_SYSMACHINE -c SysDep.cpp In file included from SysDep.cpp:40: SysDepBSD.cpp: In function `int SysGetDiskSpace(const char*, SYS_INT64*, SYS_INT64*)': SysDepBSD.cpp:2429: error: aggregate `statfs SFS' has incomplete type and cannot be defined SysDepBSD.cpp:2431: error: invalid use of undefined type `struct statfs' SysDepBSD.cpp:2429: error: forward declaration of `struct statfs' gmake: *** [SysDep.o] Error 1 It didn't get very far. I can post full output 4.5k but that was first error encountered. I've not had any other unexplained problem during setting up this server. xmail-1.21 compiled ok on the k6-400 with NetBSD 2.0 (gcc 2.95) but on trying again after update to NetBSD 3.0 (gcc 3.3.3) and failure of xmail-1.22 to compile I found that wouldn't compile either and gave same error. That would suggest I try again with gcc 2.95 which I'll try after working out how I can safely install it without messing up existing setup. David - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: Unable to compile Xmail on NetBSD 3.0
On 20 Jan 2006, at 17:42, Davide Libenzi wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, David Lord wrote:
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On 17 Jan 2006, at 11:41, Davide Libenzi wrote:
Can you try this?
$ find /usr/include -type f -exec grep -H statfs {} \;
Hi again
I'm still no further forward with solution as to why I can't get a
clean compile of 1.21 or 1.22 on NetBSD 3.0. Although I've not yet
done a reinstall from scratch I've extracted all distribution files
and above command pointed to that usr/include is exactly same as
before.
I've traced where I went wrong on subsequent postinstall and deleted
some critical files (recovered from backup) and after reducing
maximum sizes and number of mails parameters got around the error -
213 (this pc has only 64 MB ram vs 128 MB on system being replaced.
XMail still seems to be working ok for local mail and a short period
with pop3 collection for lan directed through this pc.
I've a domain that gets so little genuine mail I'll direct that
through this box and setup some of pcs on lan to send through it.
Only real problem I've seen is that /etc/daily crontab creates
daily.out with 'To: root' and uses 'sendmail -t' to extract
recipients which isn't accepted by XMails sendmail. I've just
changed that and similar crontabs to use real sendmail.
Honestly I have no idea. I'd restart with a clean system install, and
build up from there. When things gets really screwed and wierd, that's
usually the best way.
Update on my problem with xmail-1.22 failing to compile on NetBSD
3.0/i386.
Still no luck with this. It would be nice to hear from someone that
is using xmailserver with NetBSD 3.0/i386.
I'd been trying to compile on a k6-400 pc that was first installed
with NetBSD 2.02 then updated eventually to NetBSD 3.0.
I now have a desktop p4-2600 with NetBSD 3.0 default full install and
attempt to compile xmail 1.22 gives exact same error and failure as
before.
Meanwhile the k6x400 with the source hacked (almost certainly
incorrectly - I'm no programmer) such that it does compile has now
been up 47 days but has only been very lightly loaded with test
emails. It will be a bit of a hassle but I'm going to switch domain
that is most spammed/with least genuine email to go through that.
David
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