That's nice, but not really relevant.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin brettalancorbin@... wrote:
I stopped eating meat about 3 weeks ago, and I have to say I feel much
better, and much clearer in my thoughts. Also I am really enjoying cooking
now, because the act of not
Well, observation isn't quite the right word. Spock definitely doesn't put, for
example, his own well-being or self preservation into the equation.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
I would think that any comparison of Vulcans and zen is 'way off'.
To answer your
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
Brett,
Of course it is the same. The 'truths' in all religions are the same. Some
call it Tao, some Yahweh, some Allah, some Buddha, some might even call it
Zen.
Please remember Lao Tzu's first verse:
The tao that can
Bill,
What is this 'truth' that is common to all religions?
Thanks, ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
Brett,
Of course it is the same. The 'truths' in all religions are the same.
Some call it Tao, some Yahweh, some Allah, some Buddha, some might
even call
Brett,
What are the nature and benefits of this 'wisdom' you seek?
Thanks, ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin brettalancorbin@...
wrote:
I agree with you Bill, I feel by seeking wisdom through our own
personal experience, we are lead to the truth, even if we have never
Bill,
Whether the number of steps in the Eightfold noble path is 8 or 800 is
not relevant. Whether Zen is a subset of Buddhism or not is a non-issue.
And, you may use the qualifier 'right' or 'wholesome' or something else.
The point is that in addition to concentration meditation and
I am sorry Dave if my post did not seem relevant to your question, I felt that
telling you how stopping eating meat has helped make my thoughts more
clearer, could support the theory that maybe not eating meat could help you
with your OCD.
Brett
http://www.pbase.com/brett1963
--- On Wed,
Hi Ed,
The wisdom I seek is hard for me to explain, but I will try. The wisdom I seek
is a pure wisdom, not from men, books, or religions, but straight from the
source. The source I am referring to, can not be named, it is called by many
names, God, Tao, Buddha, or even Zen. I believe a
Well put, Ed. To be whole - body, mind and spirit -- is the key...
Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can
http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com
http://www.heartchan.org
On 2/2/2011 11:58 AM, ED wrote:
Bill,
Whether the number of steps in the Eightfold noble path is 8 or 800 is
not relevant.
Dave,
Your the one who used 'observe': ...Vulcans are not actually unemotional, but
simply observe their emotions and not let them control their actions. U was
just responding to your question.
I don't think you're correct in saying Spock definitely doesn't put, for
example, his own
Steve,
One of my favorite books (which has inexplicably disappeared) is/was THE
MUSTARD SEED by Bhagrahm Sri Rashneesh. It went through many of Jesus'
parables and commented on them from an Eastern perspective.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, SteveW eugnostos2000@... wrote:
ED,
Come closer and I'll twist your nose!
(A direct, non-dualistic experience of reality.)
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter001@... wrote:
Bill,
What is this 'truth' that is common to all religions?
Thanks, ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill!
ED,
I disagree - not becuase I want to discourage 'wholesome' behaviour, but
because I don't want anyone to beleive that acting in any certain way (even in
what the person believes is a 'wholesome' way) will contribute to the
realization of Buddha Nature.
...Bill!
--- In
Steve,
Thank you for releasing me from a constant fear of being attacked by
enlightened beings. As regards 'tonglen', it is supposed to give away one's
good luck, in exchange for taking others' bad luck. This is a great
bodhisatva's practice. However, the Buddhist principle is that you can
Bill,
You should twist Jesus' nose. He is the most dualistic, always speaking about
heaven and hell.
There is nothing in common between different religions. If you said so, you
would be saying that we are all animals.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From:
Hi Anthony,
I've heard about this... I've also heard that if everyone in the world sat in
a circle, and placed their problems in the center-- most would take their own
problems back. Hope all is well with you. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony
Hi Bill,
I agree. Lets get drunk and party. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:05 PM
ED,
I disagree - not becuase I
Kristy,
You say, ...most would take their own problems back. My question is whether
it is possible to take 'others' problem.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Eightfold Path
To:
Anthony,
Yes, I understood that. I was just pointing to the idea that if we could
do an exchange, most would not do so. Its more on the lines of bittersweet
humor. As your post was to Steve, i didn't mean to interrupt. But if you
asked my view, I don't think you can. This may be the
Seems to me that the problem isn't acting in a wholesome fashion, but the
trying to be wholesome.
You are already wholesome, you don't need to try or strive or purify
or whatever to be wholesome.
As far as actions, the key there is in the moment, how are you acting. Far
from being a help,
Gasho
Life and death are of supreme importance. Time swiftly passes by and
opportunity is lost. Each of us should strive to awaken. Awaken. Take heed, do
not squander your life.
Dogen Zenji (1200 - 1253)
Peace
Kirk
Current Book Discussion: any
This sounds right to me. Now I really need a drink. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:53 PM
Hi Brett, thank you. --ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Brett Corbin brettalancorbin@...
wrote:
Hi Ed,
The wisdom I seek is hard for me to explain, but I will try. The
wisdom I seek is a pure wisdom, not from men, books, or religions, but
straight from the source. The source I am
Kristy,
I would like to share your drink. How about Mao Tai (60%), instead of the
boring Jack Daniel.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 3/2/11, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Do you draw a distinction between 'feelings' and 'emotions' or not?
Thanks, ED
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Dave P wookielifeday@ wrote:
This is another strange question, but I've been watching a lot of
Star Trek, and there's frequent mentioning of how the Vulcans are not
actually
Well, he is willing to sacrifice his own wellbeing on occasion. Of course it
turns out okay for him in the end, because it's TV.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
Dave,
Your the one who used 'observe': ...Vulcans are not actually unemotional,
but simply observe
Bill,
My non-dual response is 'mu'.My dualistic response is 'wtf''.
An intensive form of what; Used to express astonishment, shock,
incredulity, or disbelief (as a shortened form of expressions such as
What the fuck is going on?, ...are you doing?, or ...is that? ...
Anthony,
My favorite-- its a date. k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist?
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 7:58 PM
Kristy,
I would like to share your
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wuasg@... wrote:
Steve,
Thank you for releasing me from a constant fear of being attacked by
enlightened beings. As regards 'tonglen', it is supposed to give away one's
good luck, in exchange for taking others' bad luck. This is a great
According to the universal Law of Cause and Effect, we reap what we
sow, and there is no higher authority who wilfully rewards deeds that
are good and punishes those that are evil.
It is a similar situation to a person walking up a staircase, who may
fall down if he is not careful enough, and
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wuasg@... wrote:
Bill,
You should twist Jesus' nose. He is the most dualistic, always speaking about
heaven and hell.
There is nothing in common between different religions. If you said so, you
would be saying that we are all animals.
As I was taught a long, long time ago, and as confirmed by wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonglen#cite_note-learn-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonglen#cite_note-learn-7 ),
Toglen has nothing to do with transfer of merit.
It is an exercise in the mind-training for a practitioner.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, ED seacrofter001@... wrote:
As I was taught a long, long time ago, and as confirmed by wikipedia
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonglen#cite_note-learn-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonglen#cite_note-learn-7 ),
Toglen has nothing to do with transfer
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