ED,

I disagree - not becuase I want to discourage 'wholesome' behaviour, but 
because I don't want anyone to beleive that acting in any certain way (even in 
what the person believes is a 'wholesome' way) will contribute to the 
realization of Buddha Nature.

...Bill!


--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Whether the number of steps in the Eightfold noble path is 8 or 800 is
> not relevant. Whether Zen is a subset of Buddhism or not is a non-issue.
> And, you may use the qualifier 'right' or 'wholesome' or something else.
> 
> The point is that in addition to concentration meditation and
> shikantaza, wholesome motivation, and wholesome thought, speech and
> conduct are either necessary for or will greatly facilitate the
> realization of Buddha Nature.
> 
> How wholesome motivation and wholesome behavior are cultivated in a
> zenist is the zenist's choice. Buddhism offers a variety of practices to
> achieve these two ends.
> 
> --ED
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> >  ED,
> >
> > The Noble Eightfold Path is a very good example of why I don't
> > consider
> > Zen a subset of Buddhism. First of all to assert there are 8 items
> > of conduct such as this borders on hubris. Also to proceed all of them
> > with
> > a qualifier 'Right' is also an example of the impertinence that
> > characterizes most religions.
> >
> >  Bill
>




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