Hi Bill, I agree. Lets get drunk and party. ~ k
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Is Chan Buddhist? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:05 PM ED, I disagree - not becuase I want to discourage 'wholesome' behaviour, but because I don't want anyone to beleive that acting in any certain way (even in what the person believes is a 'wholesome' way) will contribute to the realization of Buddha Nature. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > Whether the number of steps in the Eightfold noble path is 8 or 800 is > not relevant. Whether Zen is a subset of Buddhism or not is a non-issue. > And, you may use the qualifier 'right' or 'wholesome' or something else. > > The point is that in addition to concentration meditation and > shikantaza, wholesome motivation, and wholesome thought, speech and > conduct are either necessary for or will greatly facilitate the > realization of Buddha Nature. > > How wholesome motivation and wholesome behavior are cultivated in a > zenist is the zenist's choice. Buddhism offers a variety of practices to > achieve these two ends. > > --ED > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > ED, > > > > The Noble Eightfold Path is a very good example of why I don't > > consider > > Zen a subset of Buddhism. First of all to assert there are 8 items > > of conduct such as this borders on hubris. Also to proceed all of them > > with > > a qualifier 'Right' is also an example of the impertinence that > > characterizes most religions. > > > > Bill >
