Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread mike brown
campus parties. Mike. - Original Message From: Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 21:48:27 Subject: Re: [Zen] JUDO Hi Mike, and Bill too, I think the problem you and Bill are having is in thinking of chi as something in par

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Fitness63
From: Bill Smart Chi is an illusion anyway, so why not qualify your illusions. After all, they are part of the real world and thus there are all kinds. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Y

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Edgar Owen
> technique > > > > which allows a person to feel chi and so feel somewhat > > > > spiritualised and 'connected'. I've felt something very similar > > in > > > > my Vipassana meditation (Vipassana uses a technique which > > generates &

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Bill Smart
> > > > spiritualised and 'connected'. I've felt something very similar > > in > > > > my Vipassana meditation (Vipassana uses a technique which > > generates > > > > a lot of chi and this is then used to 'scan' the body to feel > > the &g

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Edgar Owen
gt; are a bad thing - after all zazen meditation is a technique . What > > I am saying tho' is that ultimately ALL techniques are just rafts > > which need to be discarded after reaching the other shore (the > > shore we're already on, of course). Zen is just

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Bill Smart
; which need to be discarded after reaching the other shore (the > > shore we're already on, of course). Zen is just simply living life > > fully in the moment and doesn't require anything extra in the way > > of 'energy currents', God, or listening

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread Edgar Owen
ning to our 'inner-dolphin'. Mike. - Original Message From: Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 7:41:41 Subject: Re: [Zen] JUDO Hi Mike, An excellent post from someone who obviously has direct experience of what he&#x

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-11 Thread mike brown
moment and doesn't require anything extra in the way of 'energy currents', God, or listening to our 'inner-dolphin'. Mike. - Original Message From: Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, 11 September, 2008 7:41:41 Subje

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-10 Thread Edgar Owen
TECTED] Mike. - Original Message ---- From: Fitness63 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 12:26:56 Subject: [Zen] JUDO By the way, I learned a lot from that old Judo instructor. He is a very nice guy and now he is in his 80s. I think

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-10 Thread mike brown
arses kicked by fighters who wouldn't know their chi if it jumped and bit them on their [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike. - Original Message From: Fitness63 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 10 September, 2008 12:26:56 Subject: [Zen] JUDO By the way,

Re: [Zen] JUDO

2008-09-09 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
Yes, chi is important to judo. Judo was also very influenced by Taoist and Shinto ideas. I found the best judo I ever did was when I wasn't thinking about it. JODY Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk ab

[Zen] JUDO

2008-09-09 Thread Fitness63
By the way, I learned a lot from that old Judo instructor. He is a very nice guy and now he is in his 80s. I think that he felt that Judo and Zen were intertwined and that zen helped him focus his CHI to be better at Judo. I think that is why the samurai also were devoted to zen. It was not b