[Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread Bill!
ED and JMJM, From what I've seen posted (and I have seen and read JMJM's posts even though he claims nothing he's posted has any value) I think 'shikantaza' and 'Chan mediation' (as descibed below by JMJM) are exactly the same. JMJM described Chan meditations as: Just feel and sense. Not

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Well, Ed. Since you remain attentive and receptive to Chan way. May I elaborate a little more? In my personal opinion, Zen, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Bahai, Krishna are all offsprings of Chan. (Similar to what Bill stated about Zen) Yet, Chan, Zen, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam,

[Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread ED
JM, is your omission of 'Judaism' accidental or intended? --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@... wrote: Well, Ed. Since you remain attentive and receptive to Chan way. May I elaborate a little more? In my personal opinion, Zen, Christianity,

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-29 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Ed, I know nothing about Judaism. Neither do I know about Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, etc. Yet, If we look at our universe, all planets are in harmony. All living beings are in harmony. Each and every moment is in perfect harmony. It is just us humans often deluded to believe that

[Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread ED
Hi JM, Bill and All - What is described below by JM is 'concentration meditation' or 'samatha', which in zazen is preliminary to the main practice of shikantaza. This preliminary samatha can be brief for a practitioner who can stabilize her mind quickly. Samatha comprises a suite, type or

Re: [Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hi Ed, Well, since my name has mentioned in your post. I thank you for granting me this opportunity. 1. I don't know what Shikantaza is. Sorry. 2. I don't know what Samatha is. Sorry again. 3. I know how to sit the Chan way as I described below. 4. I don't compare either, as you may

[Zen] Re: Your message to Mel

2010-12-28 Thread ED
Hi JM, Thank you so much for elaborating on and clarifying the Chan Way. At this point in time I am interested in traditional Zen/zen Ways, but will remain attentive and receptive to your presentations of the Chan Way. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote: Hi