RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-19 Thread BillSmart
Siska, There are no prescribed ‘techniques’ for communicating Buddha Nature, which is the attempt of all koans. The communication has to be spontaneous and come directly from Buddha Nature. Sometimes it is a sentence or two. Sometimes it is just one or two words. Sometimes it is just a soun

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Quote from St. Thomas Aquinas

2010-11-19 Thread BillSmart
Siska, I don’t mean to jump in for Anthony, but I’d like to respond to this too. Koans are like any other historical or even ancient writings. This includes the Bible. No one really knows whether the stories are really true, or mostly true or a compilation of several different occurrenc

RE: [Zen] The Teacher-Student Relationship: Genpo Roshi & Andrew Cohen

2010-11-19 Thread BillSmart
I definitely agree with ED’s point below: “Who they *really* are and all their foibles are irrelevant if you are learning and growing by being with them.” A traditional zen saying that says the same thing is: ‘Even a great zen master can’t enlighten an uncommitted student, but an earnest student

[Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread ED
Definitions of karma on the Web: * (Hinduism and Buddhism) the effects of a person's actions that determine his destiny in his next incarnation wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

[Zen] Disappeared?

2010-11-19 Thread ED
Roddy, Clem, Al, Why is Tom not around? Thanks, ED Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread Anthony Wu
Chris,   You are not alone. We see the world the way it is because many don't believe in karma, believe it can be invalidated one way or the other, or don't bother to think about it at all.   Anthony --- On Fri, 19/11/10, ChrisAustinLane wrote: From: ChrisAustinLane Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW

Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   Again I acclaim your good presentation on karma.   After all, what do you believe and act. Would you embrace Abrahamic religion to enjoy bypassing of karma, and further 72 virgins?   Anthony --- On Fri, 19/11/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book To: Zen_Forum@yahoog

[Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread ED
Anthony, You've hit the nail on the head! The US and UK have aided and abetted the Israelis in robbing the Palestinians of their lands and murdering them; and they have occupied the lands of the Muslim people, have been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims, and then th

RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread BillSmart
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RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread BillSmart
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[Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book

2010-11-19 Thread maria818448
Bill; Couldn't refrain myself and express an observation which has nothing to do with thread about Karma.It seems as there isn't any problem to say in public something positive to ED but it's seems as it was a problem of doing so when he clearly verbally abused me in public. As a result putting