Couldn't refrain myself and express an observation which has nothing to do with 
thread about Karma.It seems as there isn't any problem to say in public 
something positive to ED but it's seems as it was a problem of doing so when he 
clearly verbally abused me in public. As a result putting in that way in motion 
the wheel invitation to other members do the same at any time. And I know this 
for sure as I had a previous experience in a zen forum about it.  You may be 
very smart and inteligent but you're cold like an ice.  


--- In, Anthony Wu <wu...@...> wrote:
> ED,
> Again I acclaim your good presentation on karma.
> After all, what do you believe and act. Would you embrace Abrahamic religion 
> to enjoy bypassing of karma, and further 72 virgins?
> Anthony
> --- On Fri, 19/11/10, ED <seacrofter...@...> wrote:
> From: ED <seacrofter...@...>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
> To:
> Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 10:58 PM
> Definitions of karma on the Web: 
> (Hinduism and Buddhism) the effects of a person's actions that determine his 
> destiny in his next incarnation
> Karma (Sanskrit: рдХрдâ–`реНрдо , '' "act, action, performance"; 
> Pali: kamma'') in Indian religions is the concept of "action" or "deed", 
> understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect (i.e., 
> the cycle called saс╣Ð"sтra) originating in ancient India and treated in 
> Hindu, Jain, Sikh and ...
> In some way, shape or form, 'cause and effect' or 'action and reaction' can 
> usually or often be seen in human, animal and other interactions. In 
> Hinduism/Buddhism this is declared to be a universal equalizer, when 
> operating over lifetimes.
> In Hinduism/Buddhism, belief in the law of karma which that will inevitably 
> punish or reward is a premise that substitutes for a justice-seeking 
> conceptual entity called Hashem (G-d), God or Allah in the Abrahamic 
> religions.
> In Abrahamic religions this law of action/reaction can be supended by 
> declaring oneself to be an innocent victim, and the other side to be demonic 
> evil-doers. This by-passing of the law of karma is a privilege usually 
> granted to the more powerful side only. 
> In addition:
> A magic extinction of karma occurs for those who are of the seed of Abraham, 
> or is it the ova of Sarah?
> A magic erasure of karma occurs for those who believe in Jesus.
> A magic erasure of karma plus seventy-two virgins is the payback expected by 
> those who believe that they are fighting for their rights (Jihad) against 
> congenitally venal and exploitive infidel powers, talented in accidentally 
> and innocently inflicting massive collateral damage.
> Buddhism and Hinduism have only one (egalitarian) escape route: Become 
> enlightened.
> --ED 
> --- In, Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote:
> >
> > Is that what people mean by karma? I was taught that "karma" means
> > "action," and that the Buddha just meant that to be mean is an unpleasant
> > state to be in ...


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