[Zen] Re: Not understanding mindfulness

2011-01-09 Thread ED
"Be a light unto yourself." --The Buddha --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Maria Lopez wrote: > Much, much short cut to eat the peach rather than to have the poetry and much more often the speculation by the ones who read a lot about what look like the taste of the peach but never trie

Re: [Zen] Bill!'s Back....

2011-01-09 Thread Bill!
Anthony, 48 miles. No, and enlightened being does not compete - with anything. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Bill, > Â > I posted a message specifically for you: > Â > How far a bird can fly in a stormy sky without the help of a turbojet engine? > Â > Relat

Re: [Zen] zen, reality, etc(to Anthony/list)

2011-01-09 Thread Bill!
This thread sounds like a gradeschool come-back we used to use: 'I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you!' ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wrote: > > Mel, >   > That is ABC. What is real does not stay put. It changes from moment

[Zen] step by step 1, and zazen

2011-01-09 Thread Mel
Greetings forum A former acquaintance of mine those many years ago remarked that I had a 'step-by-step' sort of attitude. Nothing special, but probably something I may have learned from the Deshimaru writings I had to help my friend leave her apartment. In fact, I think I would have used the t

[Zen] 'manly' zazen

2011-01-09 Thread Mel
Greetings forum Zazen...a clear path, and no obstruction. Playing baseball in old Philippines in the countryside. Fun afternoon at dusk. Hold that bat, wait for the ball, andstrike..or duck? What to do? The path is clear. Zazen...a clear path, no obstruction.. The ball is coming. What did

Re: [Zen] zen, reality, etc(to Anthony/list)

2011-01-09 Thread SteveW
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Mel wrote: > > --- On Sat, 8/1/11, Anthony Wu wrote: > > MEL: I'll throw the question back at you and otherswhat is real exactly > when all change moment by moment? >   > Anthony: I am carrying a shield that makes the question bounce back to you >

Re: [Zen] zen, reality, etc(to Anthony/list)

2011-01-09 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Dear Steve, Thank you for your post. May I ask that you post more in the future. :-) Be Enlightened In This Life - We ALL Can http://chanjmjm.blogspot.com http://www.heartchan.org On 1/9/2011 8:22 AM, SteveW wrote: --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com , M

Re: [Zen] zen, reality, etc(to Anthony/list)

2011-01-09 Thread SteveW
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote: > > Dear Steve, Thank you for your post. May I ask that you post more in > the future. :-) > Hi Jue Mia Jing Ming. I am pleased to meet you. Everyone here seems very nice. I am sure I will learn a great deal from al

Re: [Zen] Bill!'s Back....

2011-01-09 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Thank you for your enlightened answer.   When you get stuck in Beijing again this time around, make sure to visit the tomb of the great zombie, who will speed up your enlightening process.   Anthony --- On Sun, 9/1/11, Bill! wrote: From: Bill! Subject: Re: [Zen] Bill!'s Back To: Z

[Zen] Chan -northern and southern schools, mental/spiritual chan, pure body/pure mind

2011-01-09 Thread taomtnsage1
To Jue Miao Jing Ming- Could you please share your views on the northern practice in Chan "the school of gradual enlightenment" and the southern school, led by HuiNeng "the school of instant enlightenment." Also, what is mental Chan and what is spiritual Chan, and lastly, how can one cultivate p

Re: [Zen] Chan -northern and southern schools, mental/spiritual chan, pure body/pure mind

2011-01-09 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Hello Tao Mountain Sage One, I assume this is how I should address you, If not, please excuse me. There are many different historical versions of the Northern School vs the Southern School. Since I don't know for sure which version is the most accurate, my view would not be of any value in r