RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread BillSmart
: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch Bill, Mai Kao Jai. When you have realized your original nature (that sounds great), but you still cannot drink coffee at 100 deg C. Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread BillSmart
: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch ED, They are seemingly the same position, but Vajrayana has a lot of sex rituals. I don't think zen has it. If I am wrong, correct me. Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, ED wrote: Fro

Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread Anthony Wu
--- On Wed, 27/10/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 11:03 PM   Anthony, Not so fast! After two decades of Hinayana, two decades of Mayahana, and three decades of sexless

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Do you perform a sex ritual, or plan to do it?   Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 11:12 AM   Ed

Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread Anthony Wu
ED,   They are seemingly the same position, but Vajrayana has a lot of sex rituals. I don't think zen has it. If I am wrong, correct me.   Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, ED wrote: From: ED Subject: Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-27 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   Mai Kao Jai. When you have realized your original nature (that sounds great), but you still cannot drink coffee at 100 deg C.   Anthony --- On Wed, 27/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch To

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
orum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ED Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:56 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch   Bill posted: "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and wisd

Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-26 Thread ED
Bill posted: "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and wisdom need not be instituted." Tibetan Vajrayana and zen appear to have similar positions on this issue. --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > Anthony, > All the questions you have asked about having

RE: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch

2010-10-26 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, All the questions you have asked about having limits or rules to go by are answered by one sentence below: "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and wisdom need not be instituted." And there are no need for rules, multi-fold paths, vows, dogma, rituals or attac