ED,
 
They are seemingly the same position, but Vajrayana has a lot of sex rituals. I 
don't think zen has it. If I am wrong, correct me.
 
Anthony

--- On Wed, 27/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Platform Scripture of the Sixth Patriarch
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 27 October, 2010, 10:55 AM


  





Bill posted: "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and 
wisdom need not be instituted."
Tibetan Vajrayana and zen appear to have similar positions on this issue.
--ED
 
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, <billsm...@...> wrote:
>
> Anthony,

> All the questions you have asked about having limits or rules to go by are
answered by one sentence below:

> "When one realizes his original nature, discipline, calmness and wisdom need 
> not
be instituted."

> And there are no need for rules, multi-fold paths, vows, dogma, rituals or
attachment to the concept of karma.

> Entiende? Kao Jai?

> ...Bill!








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