Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-19 Thread Garrett D'Amore
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Hung-Sheng Tsao (Lao Tsao 老曹) Ph.D. wrote: > AFAIK, most ZFS based storage appliance are move to SAS with 7200 rpm or 15k > rpm > most SSD are SATA and are connecting to on bd SATA with IO chips Most *cheap* SSDs are SATA. But if you want to use them in a cluster

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-19 Thread Hung-Sheng Tsao (Lao Tsao 老曹) Ph.D.
AFAIK, most ZFS based storage appliance are move to SAS with 7200 rpm or 15k rpm most SSD are SATA and are connecting to on bd SATA with IO chips On 12/19/2011 9:59 AM, tono wrote: Thanks for the sugestions, especially all the HP info and build pictures. Two things crossed my mind on the hard

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-19 Thread tono
Thanks for the sugestions, especially all the HP info and build pictures. Two things crossed my mind on the hardware front. The first is regarding the SSDs you have pictured, mounted in sleds. Any Proliant that I've read about connects the hotswap drives via a SAS backplane. So how did you avoid t

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-17 Thread Chris Ridd
On 17 Dec 2011, at 19:35, Edmund White wrote: > On 12/17/11 8:27 PM, "Chris Ridd" wrote: > > >> >> Can you explain how you got the SSDs into the HP sleds? Did you buy blank >> sleds from somewhere, or cannibalise some "cheap" HP drives? >> >> I assumed some part of the HP hardware would frea

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-17 Thread Edmund White
On 12/17/11 8:27 PM, "Chris Ridd" wrote: > >Can you explain how you got the SSDs into the HP sleds? Did you buy blank >sleds from somewhere, or cannibalise some "cheap" HP drives? > >I assumed some part of the HP hardware would freak out if it ever saw a >drive with non-HP firmware - is that a p

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-17 Thread Chris Ridd
On 16 Dec 2011, at 23:48, Edmund White wrote: > If you're building from scratch, please choose nearline/midline SAS disks > instead of SATA if you're looking for capacity. For detailed reasoning, > see: http://serverfault.com/a/331504/13325 > > For the server, I've had great success with HP ProL

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-16 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Edmund White wrote: > If you can budget 4U of rackspace, the DL370 G6 > is a good option that can accommodate 14LFF or 24 SFF disks (or a > combination). I've built onto DL180 G6 systems as well. If you do the > DL180 G6, you'll need a 12-bay LFF model. I'd recomme

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-16 Thread Edmund White
If you're building from scratch, please choose nearline/midline SAS disks instead of SATA if you're looking for capacity. For detailed reasoning, see: http://serverfault.com/a/331504/13325 For the server, I've had great success with HP ProLiant systems, focusing on the DL380 G6/G7 models. If you c

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-16 Thread Hung-Sheng Tsao (laoTsao)
imho, if possible pick sas 7200 hdd no hw-raid for ZFS mirror and with ZIL and good size memory Sent from my iPad On Dec 16, 2011, at 17:36, t...@ownmail.net wrote: > I could use some help with choosing hardware for a storage server. For > budgetary and density reasons, we had settled on LFF SA

[zfs-discuss] SATA hardware advice

2011-12-16 Thread tono
I could use some help with choosing hardware for a storage server. For budgetary and density reasons, we had settled on LFF SATA drives in the storage server. I had closed in on models from HP (DL180 G6) and IBM (x3630 M3), before discovering warnings against connecting SATA drives with SAS expande