Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
[OMG, you U.S. musicians, wanna do this all the way? Ok, granted.] My dearest aunt is a lesbian! I love my aunt! [mail server, what do you say?] Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
[sorry, baby don't try!] Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) [OMG, you U.S. musicians, wanna do this all the way? Ok

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
[oh, my Lord, I hope it will be a sunny day] 武士道 Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:02 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) [sorry, baby don't try

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
I see snow outside. Maybe we don't have early Sun light in the morning, but now is about morning. In my china view (瑞雪兆丰年), and the Xmas view, snow is a very good thing to have on this Sunday morning. I am happy, the sky did not let me down! Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
[this part you may not understand] In the three-kingdoms days, 周瑜 could not believe he said west-wind, and 诸葛 said east-wind, but the sky gave east-wind. 周瑜 was so confused, he died. Today, I am not confused, with the snow, I will live. ;-) Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j

Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
meh - Original Message - From: Antonius antoni...@gmail.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error If so what should I do to remedy that? just reformat it? -- This

Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Hi Bob, Will, Tim, I also had some off-list comments on my irrelevant comments. So I will try to make this post less irrelevant, though my thoughts on this topic may be off the list discussion line of thoughts, as usual. From the major storage vendors I know, network storage systems as

Re: [zfs-discuss] replace same sized disk fails with too small error

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Yes, I agree, command interface is more efficient and more risky than GUI. You will have to be very careful when doing that. Best, z - Original Message - From: Al Tobey tob...@gmail.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss]

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Obama just made a good speech. I hope you were watching TV... Best, z ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Yes, James, I will desist, if you insist. Not a big deal. Best, z - Original Message - From: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Hi Folks, Sorry if this is again not relevant to the list discussion. Maybe I am too sensitive, maybe I am just crazy. But things I see around me today just make me wonder if I should do one more post. [and again, I will leave the conclusion to the mail server] I live in the U.S. My family

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Thank you Lord, for the sunny day today! 安! z方天化戟 [read the three-kingdoms story and you will understand] - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:20 PM

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS replication

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
and that's why I hated blogs! do you know what to read that is not misleading, in a sea of blogs and you are wondering why western folks don't like us?! 言语之中引出的生死恩怨太多了 Best, z - Original Message - From: Tim To: Richard Elling Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Understanding ZFS replication

2009-01-18 Thread JZ
Beloved Tim, You challenged me a while ago, as a friend. I did what you asked me to do, in the honor of my father. Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ To: Tim Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] a Min Wang person emailed me for free knowledge

2009-01-17 Thread JZ
. Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: A Darren Dunham ddun...@taos.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Cc: sc...@mohegansun.com; Marvin Wang, Min mail...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] a Min Wang person

Re: [zfs-discuss] Aggregate Pool I/O

2009-01-17 Thread JZ
Please allow me to contribute some to this question, since this relates to the protocol question years ago that I could not give an answer in a few seconds. [and I still cannot do that today -- no need, I insist.] File I/O and block I/O is very different. While block I/O measurements could be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-17 Thread JZ
[Just do not want to be misleading] I think there is one aspect of the Zhou style is heavily misleading. And that is how do we deal with ladies. Personally, I have my opinions about ladies being open and career-minded, but those are not important. What is important, would be how should we deal

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-17 Thread JZ
[I thought this post would be related to ZFS list discussion, again, the mail server will conclude. Sound is always more misleading than text. ;-) ] I hope folks are not speaking because: It's Saturday night!

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-17 Thread JZ
on Sunday and say, thank God for Sunday. [TGIF is nothing wrong either.] Best, z [sent at 2:08AM NYC time] - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
[no one speaking? want my spam?] Ok, folks, I don't know how open is this now. I turned on some public music, the songs are very healthy today. I guess whatever I say now would be misleading, so, here is a joke. Zhou will always end something with happy - I told some bullshit, not

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
meh - Original Message - From: Nick Smith nick.sm...@techop.ch To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:28 AM Subject: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot What 'verbose information' is reported by the zfs send -v snapshot contain?

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Wes, I now have a real question. How do you define silly, and artificial intelligence, and script? And halfway inclined to believe to me means 25%. (believe is 100%, inclined is 50%, and halfway is 25% in crystal math, and maybe even less in storage math, including the RAID and HA and DR and

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Rich, This is the best summary I have seen. [china folks say, older ginger more satisfying, true] Just one thing I would like to add - It also depends on the encryption technique and algorism. Today we are doing private key encryption that without the key, you cannot read the data.

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
BTW, ASANTE MAPENZI :-) Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) ¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
post some help then? Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: David Shirley david.shir...@nec.com.au; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) Ok, it's also important, in many many

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS pool disks to another host hardware

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
[Sun folks are not working?] Hi Nikhi, doing IT so late at this hour? I had an email that also got blocked by the mail server. that one talked about metadata too, which might be satisfying, with some worm sake... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake The first alcoholic drink in Japan may have

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Another Zhou approach is that - when there is a fight that needs to be fought, a Zhou will fight that fight, and walking into the battlefield in front of the troops - kind of like the western way of doing fighting in the earlier days best, z ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS pool disks to another host hardware

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
[still only me speaking? ok, more spam for whoever out there confused...] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer if you are lazy to read through Sake... best, z - Original Message - From: JZ To: Nikhil ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:18 AM

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS pool disks to another host hardware

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
beer and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi enlightening? fulfilling? best, z - Original Message - From: JZ To: Nikhil ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Cc: yunlai...@hotmail.com ; guo_r...@hotmail.com ; ??? ?? ; Lu Bin ; liaohelen ; Liao, Jane ; ??? ; gmsi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS pool disks to another host hardware

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
[OMG, sorry, I cannot resist] Hi Nikhi, so you were playing? another Zhou thing is that - we like playful chic goodnight z - Original Message - From: Nikhil To: Sanjeev Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss]

Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS pool disks to another host hardware

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Thank you! This is now real open storage discussion! really goodnight now cheers, z - Original Message - From: Tomas Ögren st...@acc.umu.se To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Swap ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] a Min Wang person emailed me for free knowledge

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
through. best, z - Original Message - From: Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] a Min Wang person emailed me for free knowledge On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:40:19 -0500, JZ j

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Hi Jonny, So far there is no Sun comments here or at the blog site, I guess your approach is good by the Sun folks. I also noticed that the blog hit today is only 5. If, I tell my folks to visit the blog often, can they also do chinese? most of them are doing blogging in chinese, not english

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
there is a day you can break daddy's pride, you won't want to, I am sure. ;-) [if you want a solution, ask Orvar, I would guess he thinks on his own now, not baby no more, teen now...] best, z - Original Message - From: Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Sent

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
that may not be open? best, z - Original Message - From: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks... Hello JZ, I fail to see what your email

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
. But it will not be open. Please, open folks, are you going to help Jonny or what? Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Thank you! ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Sorry, open folks, please, chatting on. This is why my help cannot be provided very often. Because the Zhou style of fighting is that – Yes, if we have to step into the battle field, a Zhou will walk in front of the real troops, and say, kill me, if you dare, and I am so sure with my life

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
Folks, what can I post to the list to make the discussion go on? Is this what you folks want to see? which I shared with King and High but not you folks? http://www.excelsioritsolutions.com/jz/jzbrush/jzbrush.htm This is not even IT stuff so that I never thought I should post this to the list

Re: [zfs-discuss] mirror rpool

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
thank you, at least the list is alive. ok, let me provide some comments beyond IT, since the zpool likes it. knowledge is power. truth is knowledge. one can only understand truth if one can handle truth. and that is through learning, and reasoning. when you possess enough knowledge, you will be

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors?

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
darn, Darren, learning fast! best, z - Original Message - From: A Darren Dunham ddun...@taos.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:39:03PM -0600,

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors?

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
, but only real knowhow. cheers, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: A Darren Dunham ddun...@taos.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors? darn, Darren

Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors?

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
list???] best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: A Darren Dunham ddun...@taos.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] What are the usual suspects in data errors? folks, please, chatting

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send and file fragmentation

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
Sorry, I just cannot tell how is this name related to Sun, IMHO. In my days and enterprise environments, lots of CoWs are stored in relational databases. I dunno where the hell you come from. best, z - Original Message - From: David Shirley david.shir...@nec.com.au To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send and file fragmentation

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
Yes, that's more like it. hahahahahahahaha, it's all happy. chatting on, Sun folks. best, z - Original Message - From: David Shirley david.shir...@nec.com.au To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send and file

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-14 Thread JZ
Ok, it's also important, in many many cases, but not all - taking the problem into tomorrow is also not very good. IMHO, maybe all you smart open folks that know all about this and that, but dunno how to fix your darn email address to appear zfs user on the darn list discussion? do I have to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
OMG, we are still doing this Orvar thing? I am even sick of seafood now and had a 2X-BLT NYC style for lunch today, so nice I didn't even bother checking on beloved Orvar... You open folks may not need 7000 because you dunno why it's cool. If you pay for those, you will never have to be at this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
The way I do IT, very much inline with Ian approach. I wouldn't care too much about SW RAID or HW RAID, but only because I use a layer of real application aware storage tier to interface with the specific applications. [they pay other folks to do the RAID layer] But this approach is clearly

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
Ok, Orvar, that's why I always liked you. You really want to get to the point, otherwise you won't give up. So this is all about the Windows thing huh? Yes, I love MS Storage because we shared/sharing a common dream. Yes, I love King and High because they are not arrogant if you respect them.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
no one is working tonight? where is the discussions? ok, I will not be picking on Orvar all the time, if that's why... the windows statements was heavy, but hey, I am at home, not at work, it was just because Orvar was suffering. folks, are we not going to do IT just because I played

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
Still not happy? I guess I will have do more spam myself -- So, I have to explain why I didn't like Linux but I like MS and OpenSolaris? I don't have any religious love for MS or Sun. Just that I believe, talents are best utilized in an organized and systematic fashion, to benefit the whole.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-13 Thread JZ
Ok, so someone is doing IT and has questions. Thank you! [I did not post this using another name, because I am too honorable to do that.] This is a list discussion, should not be paused for one voice. best, z [If Orvar has other questions that I have not addressed, please ask me off-list. It's

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
[having late lunch hour for beloved Orvar] one more baby scenario for your consideration -- you can give me some ZFS based codes and I will go to china and burn some HW RAID ASICs to fulfill your desire? best, z - Original Message - From: Richard Elling richard.ell...@sun.com To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
[having good long lunch...] did you do ZFS on your huge PC? try that first, and then please ask again - will run OpenSolaris? You don't run things on NAS boxes, you attach things to them. best, z at lunch - Original Message - From: Joe S js.li...@gmail.com To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
a, I see. did you ever think about using game boxes for your home digital media storage? can be very fun! http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/hardware/memoryupdate/default.htm best, z - Original Message - From: Joe S js.li...@gmail.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Not really. In chinatown, we are trying to do some ZFS home based NAS, no need to burn anything. best, z - Original Message - From: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: Richard Elling richard.ell...@sun.com; Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem importing degraded Pool

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Ahh. what a relief, knowing the baby data could be ok... best wishes! I am going for some seafood dinner now. cheers, z - Original Message - From: Philipp Haußleiter phil...@haussleiter.de To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need help with disk layout

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix. -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) but who sends a baby to do groceries? can't pick up the wine for daddy. and which

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Hi B, You are not out eating seafood tonight? For real? the cost thing... I will take your words for it. And I will tell my chinatown folks maybe stop doing the ZFS home NAS, but try the new Windows Home thing... And those folke, they eat more fried rice, not seafood, and some are the 佛 (fo)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
ok, was I too harsh on the list? sorry folks, as I said, I have the biggest ego. no one can hurt that by trying to fight me, but yes, it can be hurt if I have to hurt the friends I love in protecting my ego or my other friends' ego. but no one can get hurt if we don't claim what we have or

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-11 Thread JZ
yeah, this is ZFS turf. what Linux folks really care may not be what z-open folks really care... open folks are not just all in one camp. I like you open folks, much much more than the L-open folks. best, z - Original Message - From: dick hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS poor performance on Areca 1231ML

2009-01-10 Thread JZ
muchas gracias por vuestro tiempo, por que me hiciste mas fuerte [if misleading, plz excuse my french...] ;-) z - Original Message - From: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us To: Dmitry Razguliaev rdmitry0...@yandex.ru Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Saturday, January

Re: [zfs-discuss] can't import zpool after upgrade to solaris 10u6

2009-01-10 Thread JZ
Hi Gold, 9987988 sounds factual to me... IMHO, z - Original Message - From: Steve Goldthorpe s...@waistcoat.org.uk To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] can't import zpool after upgrade to solaris 10u6 There's definately

Re: [zfs-discuss] Looking for new SATA/SAS HBA; JBOD is not always JBOD

2009-01-09 Thread JZ
Hi B, thx for hitting on the expander issue that I need to finish your job - On top of as Rich said, Sun sells many expander-based stuff, please also understand why you even need that -- the LSI SAS HBA that Sun resells does up to over 200 JBOD disks by itself. But the new HDS AMS2000 SAS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-09 Thread JZ
: David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS? On Thu, January 8, 2009 15:35, Tim wrote: On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com wrote: Can we focus

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
[just for the beloved Orvar] Ok, rule of thumb to save you some open time -- anything with z, or j, would probably be safe enough for your baby data. And yeah, I manage my own lunch hours BTW. :-) best, z - Original Message - From: Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Message - From: Tim To: JZ Cc: Scott Laird ; Brandon High ; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org ; Peter Korn Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS? On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:43 PM, JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: Scott Laird sc...@sigkill.org; Brandon High bh...@freaks.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; Peter Korn peter.k...@sun.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS? On 7-Jan-09, at 9:43 PM, JZ wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Laird sc...@sigkill.org To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au; Brandon High bh...@freaks.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; Peter Korn peter.k...@sun.com; Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
or should I not... OMG! ???! z, at home don't know how to spend $ - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: Scott Laird sc...@sigkill.org Cc: Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; Peter Korn peter.k...@sun.com Sent: Thursday

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
] So, without the swapping HD concern, what should I do??? z at home still confused - Original Message - From: Scott Laird sc...@sigkill.org To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au; Brandon High bh...@freaks.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; Peter Korn

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
OMG! what a critical factor I just didn't think about!!! stupid me! Moog, please, which laptops are supporting ZFS today? I will only buy within those. z, at home, feeling better, but still a bit confused - Original Message - From: The Moog m...@pixelshift.com To: JZ j

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
Hi S, sorry, as much as I am Super z, this is beyond me. maybe you can go to china town for a seafood dinner (they are on sale worldwide now), and see if Sun folks would reply? best, z - Original Message - From: Stephen Yum sosu...@yahoo.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org;

Re: [zfs-discuss] Desperate question about MPXIO with ZFS-iSCSI

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
, which have really nice seafood, that I think would be suitable for your hongkong taste... And we have some private ones... yours, z - Original Message - From: Stephen Yum sosu...@yahoo.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; storage-disc

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-08 Thread JZ
...@sun.com To: Scott Laird sc...@sigkill.org Cc: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com; Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; Peter Korn peter.k...@sun.com Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:09 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS? Scott Laird

Re: [zfs-discuss] Possible to copy a zpool safely? rsync? zfs send?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
[a quick reply to the beloved Orvar, on my lunch hour...] economy is bad, save some $ -- don't pay for tools, do your own open solution for this. know JAVA? Hash your data and see if they are cool.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
OMG, open folks are really budget concened. In enterprises, a 90% policy as a safety feature is ok... alerts will be sent and POs will be issued... :-) z - Original Message - From: Sam s...@smugmug.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:33 PM Subject:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Possible to copy a zpool safely? rsync? zfs send?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
Ok, Cindy, Next question is, let me do this for Orvar -- any of the existing snapshot settings need to be changed for the new disks, before they corrupt the baby data? :-) best, z - Original Message - From: cindy.swearin...@sun.com To: Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com Cc:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Practical Application of ZFS

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
For SuperUsers, and the little envionments, the JAVA embedded thing does all... http://java-source.net/open-source/database-engines ;-) z - Original Message - From: Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 4:51 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Practical Application of ZFS

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
long live the king - Original Message - From: Jason King ja...@ansipunx.net To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Practical Application of ZFS On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Kees Nuyt k.n...@zonnet.nl wrote: On Tue, 6

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] ZFS iscsi snapshot - VSScompatible?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
OMG, no safety feature?! Sorry, even on ZFS turf, if you use HyperV, and the HyperV VSS Writer, it could be a lot safer -- if you don't know how to do a block-level Super thing... best, zStorageAnalyst - Original Message - From: Jason J. W. Williams jasonjwwilli...@gmail.com To: Mr

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
Hello high buckley, OMG, in that spirit, I would suggest to go get a $99 per year per 1 TB web-based cloudy storage somewhere, if you don't care about your baby data... what's $8K for enterprises?! ;-) z, see pic again - Original Message - From: Brandon High bh...@freaks.com To:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
ok, Scott, that sounded sincere. I am not going to do the pic thing on you. But do I have to spell this out to you -- somethings are invented not for home use? Cindy, would you want to do ZFS at home, or just having some wine and music? Can we focus on commercial usage? please! -

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
Folks, I have had much fun and caused much trouble. I hope we now have learned the open spirit of storage. I will be less involved with the list discussion going forward, since me too have much work to do in my super domain. [but I still have lunch hours, so be good!] As I always say, thank you

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-06 Thread JZ
[ok, no one replying, my spam then...] Open folks just care about SMART so far. http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-s...@vger.kernel.org/msg07346.html Enterprise folks care more about spin-down. (not an open thing yet, unless new practical industry standard is here that I don't know. yeah right.)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Questions about OS 2008.11 partitioning scheme

2009-01-06 Thread JZ
Hello Darren, This one, ok, was a validate thought/question -- On Solaris, root pools cannot have EFI labels (the boot firmware doesn't support booting from them). http://blog.yucas.info/2008/11/26/zfs-boot-solaris/ But again, this is a ZFS discussion, and obvously EFI is not a ZFS, or even

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-06 Thread JZ
Ok, folks, new news - [feel free to comment in any fashion, since I don't know how yet.] EMC ACQUIRES OPEN-SOURCE ASSETS FROM SOURCELABS http://go.techtarget.com/r/5490612/6109175 attachment: joetucci.jpg___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread JZ
BTW, high water mark method is not perfect, here is some for Novell support of water mark... best, z http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/16991.html Based on my own belief that there had to be a better way and the number of issues I'd seen reported in the Support Forums, I spent a lot of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-05 Thread JZ
ddun...@taos.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:42 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity? On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 09:58:37PM -0500, JZ wrote: Under what situations would you expect any differences between the ZFS checksums

Re: [zfs-discuss] Unable to add cache device

2009-01-04 Thread JZ
[no Sun folks replying to this? ok, let me do more spam then...] Scott, thank you so much for the testing spirit and sharing the result with the list! -- We architects can be talking all day long and still don't have any idea how the open things would work on any box, not just the poster-boy

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-02 Thread JZ
Nice... More on sector checksum -- * anything prior to 2005 would be sort of out-of-date/fashion, because http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6952797/description.html * the software RAID - NetApp view http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~krioukov/ParityLostAndParityRegained-FAST08.ppt * the Linux view

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-02 Thread JZ
...@sun.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity? Tim wrote: The Netapp paper mentioned by JZ (http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~krioukov/ParityLostAndParityRegained-FAST08.ppt http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/%7Ekrioukov

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-02 Thread JZ
Message - From: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity? On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, JZ wrote: I have not done a cost

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-02 Thread JZ
$$$). (if this is a text-only email, see attached pic, hopefully the Solaris mail server does that conversion automatically like Lotus.) -z - Original Message - From: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2009-01-02 Thread JZ
On second thought, let me further explain why I had the Linux link in the same post. That was written a while ago, but I think the situation for the cheap RAID cards has not changed much, though the RAID ASICs in RAID enclosures are getting more and more robust, just not open. If you take

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs support in ubuntu linux...

2009-01-01 Thread JZ
If this thing goes around FUSE, china folks could love it... http://zfs-on-fuse.blogspot.com/ http://mlsx.xplore.cn/2008/12/18/zfs-fuse-poor-performance.html#more-1182 best, z - Original Message - From: hardware technician figh...@yahoo.com To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread JZ
The problem is that there is no such thing as hardware RAID there is only software RAID. The HW RAID controllers are processors running software and the features of the product are therefore limited by the software developer and processor capabilities. I goes without saying that the processors

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-31 Thread JZ
Happy new year! Snowing here and my new year party was cancelled. Ok, let me do more boring IT stuff then. Orvar, sorry I misunderstood you. Please feel free to explore the limitations of hardware RAID, and hopefully one day you will come to a conclusion that -- it was invented for saving CPU

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs HardWare raid - data integrity?

2008-12-30 Thread JZ
Orvar, did you see my post on consistency check and data integrity? It does not matter what HW RAID has, the point is what HW RAID does not have... Please, for the respect for Bill, please study, here are more. THE LAST WORD IN FILE SYSTEMS http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/zfs_lc_preso.pdf

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