Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-29 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Bob, Friday, July 25, 2008, 9:00:41 PM, you wrote: BF On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Brandon High wrote: I am not sure if ZFS really has to wait for both sides of a mirror to finish, but even if it does, if there are enough VDEVs then ZFS can still proceed with writing. It would have to wait

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-26 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Matt Wreede [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy. My plan: I'm planning an ESX-iSCSI target/NFS serving box. I'm planning on using an Areca RAID card, as I've heard mixed things about hot-swapping with Solaris/ZFS, and I'd like the stability of a hardware RAID.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-26 Thread James C. McPherson
James C. McPherson wrote: Miles Nordin wrote: bh == Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bh a system built around the Marvell or LSI chipsets according to The Blogosphere, source of all reliable information, there's some issue with LSI, too. The driver is not available in stable

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-26 Thread Andy Lubel
to the Sun SAS HBA card ;) -Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James C. McPherson Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:18 AM To: Miles Nordin Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc! Miles Nordin

[zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Matt Wreede
Howdy. My plan: I'm planning an ESX-iSCSI target/NFS serving box. I'm planning on using an Areca RAID card, as I've heard mixed things about hot-swapping with Solaris/ZFS, and I'd like the stability of a hardware RAID. My question is this: I'll be using 8 750GB SATA drives, and I''m trying to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Adam Leventhal
But, is there a performance boost with mirroring the drives? That is what I'm unsure of. Mirroring will provide a boost on reads, since the system to read from both sides of the mirror. It will not provide an increase on writes, since the system needs to wait for both halves of the mirror

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Matt Wreede wrote: Now, here is the important question: Does mirroring provide a performance boost, or is it simply a way to provide redundancy? That Mirroring provides a performance boost for reads since a read can be done from either side of the mirror. Theoretically

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Brandon High wrote: Mirroring will provide a boost on reads, since the system to read from both sides of the mirror. It will not provide an increase on writes, since the system needs to wait for both halves of the mirror to finish. It could be slightly slower than a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Wreede, Matt - PC/Network Technician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had hideous luck with software-RAID and hot swapping, and from what I've heard, Solaris is sort of iffy on support for hot swapping, so I'd like to stick with the Areca. In theory, a system

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Brandon High wrote: I am not sure if ZFS really has to wait for both sides of a mirror to finish, but even if it does, if there are enough VDEVs then ZFS can still proceed with writing. It would have to wait on an fsync() call, since that won't return until both halves

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Richard Elling
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, Brandon High wrote: Mirroring will provide a boost on reads, since the system to read from both sides of the mirror. It will not provide an increase on writes, since the system needs to wait for both halves of the mirror to finish. It could be

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Miles Nordin
bh == Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: bh a system built around the Marvell or LSI chipsets according to The Blogosphere, source of all reliable information, there's some issue with LSI, too. The driver is not available in stable Solaris nor OpenSolaris, or there are two drivers, or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Miles Nordin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: according to The Blogosphere, source of all reliable information, there's some issue with LSI, too. The driver is not available in stable Solaris nor OpenSolaris, or there are two drivers, or something. the guy is so

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ideal Setup: RAID-5, Areca, etc!

2008-07-25 Thread Carson Gaspar
Brandon High wrote: All I know is that the x4540 uses the LSI 1068e chipset, and that the X4500 used the Marvell 88SX chipset. Since buyers of both of these systems probably have an expectation that they'll well, work, I assume that the drivers in Solaris should be relatively stable. If