Re: [ZION] A question: meaning of ally

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 18:49 11/26/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote: But first I'd like to hear from USAmericans. Why the big deal? Till has yet to figure it out. Spoke the truth as she saw it. Can't fault a person for that. I overhear a lot of sillier things in the course of every day living. So what? Till the

Re: [ZION] Paul's dad

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 19:53 11/26/2002 -0800, St Stace wrote: I suggest you make arrangements to attend the temple as soon as possible. Denying yourself the blessings of the temple is not the way to face these dire events. Yes, in fact, it IS the way to face them. Till

Re: [ZION] Canada: Bush is an idiot

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 04:10 11/27/2002 +, Gib Mij wrote: Another article worrying about Canadian political insults. http://canada.com/national/story.asp?id=%7BAFC42C56-BB5F-457B-AEAF-5D58F21AB39C%7D; Those Canadian political officials can't seem to keep their lips buttoned. Sounds to me more like they

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 20:18 11/26/2002 -0800, St Stace wrote: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? It's a standard question in the temple recommend interview, if there are any past

RE: [ZION] Francie Ducros quits

2002-11-27 Thread Scott McGee
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:44:27 +, Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,450016822,00.html; University of Utah head football coach McBride is fired after beating BYU, and calling everyone at BYU morons. Jim, Neither of the reasons you mention were in

Re: [ZION] A McGee Vacation summary

2002-11-27 Thread Scott McGee
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:33:41 -0600, Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Scott Anyway, for any of you considering a trip to Hawaii, I highly recommend it. Totally cool and you're a lucky guy! I'm sure if I got to do all that fun stuff all my problems would just go away. ;-) Well, if it is

Re: [ZION] Fundis

2002-11-27 Thread Scott McGee
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:58:16 -0500, Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Y'all just come on down here to Apex, NC. We have a Baptist church on just about every corner. YOU tell them to convert to Christ's church. You can do it during their annual anti-Mormon Sunday meeting. Wow! Your

Re: [ZION] Coffee, tea or eternity?

2002-11-27 Thread Scott McGee
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:57:54 -0700, Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have to say, I'm not sure there are 4 Imp gals / 5 US gals in there -- it looks more like 3 Imp gals to me, but I'm just estimating. Hmm, you could always shut of the water, flush to empty the tank and then pour in

[ZION] The Royal flush beats all others

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 12:51 11/27/2002 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:57:54 -0700, Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have to say, I'm not sure there are 4 Imp gals / 5 US gals in there -- it looks more like 3 Imp gals to me, but I'm just estimating. Hmm, you could always shut of the water,

[ZION] Just how can we serve?

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
Just got back from lunch and there was this half-frozen coed standing in a snow squall with all her luggage at a bus stop, sobbing her eyes out. I asked her if she was OK (duh, you have to have some kind of opener), and through a series of very pointed questions (she was too upset to offer

Re: [ZION] Just how can we serve?

2002-11-27 Thread Geoff FOWLER
Till favored us with: Should I have done more? Is there more we can do for complete strangers. Till, I think you did a terrific job. Unfortunately, in our society, genuine offers of help can be and often are misconstrued. I say pray to the Father and follow the promptings of the Spirit,

Re: [ZION] Just how can we serve?

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 11:29 11/27/2002 -0700, you wrote: Till favored us with: Should I have done more? Is there more we can do for complete strangers. Till, I think you did a terrific job. Unfortunately, in our society, genuine offers of help can be and often are misconstrued. I say pray to the Father and

Re: [ZION] The Royal flush beats all others

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I'll do the draining part, and get my wife to do the mopping and measuring. Sounds great! Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: At 12:51 11/27/2002 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 17:57:54 -0700, Marc A. Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have to say, I'm not sure there are 4 Imp gals / 5 US

Re: [ZION] Just how can we serve?

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
What you did is commendable and quite appropriate, I think. Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: Just got back from lunch and there was this half-frozen coed standing in a snow squall with all her luggage at a bus stop, sobbing her eyes out. I asked her if she was OK (duh, you have to have some kind of

Re: [ZION] A McGee Vacation summary

2002-11-27 Thread Paul Osborne
Fair? Who ever said life would be fair? Whoever they were, they lied! Life is never fair. You want to trade? You get a week in Hawaii, an upcoming layoff that may effect you, most of your children living hundreds of miles away and their mother teaching them by example that all that you taught them

[ZION] What will the inspectors find?

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
To answer a question properly is sometimes easier than framing the proper question in the first place: http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021127/COKNOX27/Comment/comment/commentColumnistsHeadline_temp/1/1/7/ -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada

[ZION] Canada watch: background behind Francie Ducros' resignation

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
For those interested in the internal party politics that led to Francie Ducros' resignation (she was the communications aide who was overhead referring to Bush as a moron) here's a link from today's Glock 'n' Spiel: http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20021127/COMARTIN

[ZION] December's Friend mag

2002-11-27 Thread hkpage
Hi all...we got our December Church magazines today, and when I looked in the Friend on page 28 (in the Trying To Be Like Jesus section), there was my son's picture. Months ago, I helped him write out his experience and we mailed it off. Are we ever excited to see it in the Friend, and I thought

RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? ___ To be baptized, a person who has violated the laws of the land must have completed the terms of

[ZION] Royal Flush (was Coffee, tea or eternity?)

2002-11-27 Thread larry . jackson
Marc Schindler: Don't quote me on that -- I'm going from memory and I actually went and looked at our nearest toilet, but it doesn't say what the capacity is. ... Then it says W / L 5 / 8 I rather suspect that means 5 US gallons but I don't know what the 8 would mean. ...Now you got me,

[ZION] Boeing's new plans

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Boeing, having lost the JSF contract to McDonnell Douglas, has emphasized a number of post-manned figher alternatives, including converting civilian airliners to, e.g., in-flight refuelling ships. Boeing 'super airlifter' plans unveiled. Boeing has unveiled a design for an enormous military and

RE: [ZION] Francie Ducros quits

2002-11-27 Thread Jim Cobabe
Scott McGee wrote, about former Ute football coach: --- Neither of the reasons you mention were in fact reasons for him being fired. --- Ain't it the truth--and now everyone probably knows a lot more about this--and those inconsequential Canadian current events--than they ever cared to. I

Re: [ZION] Royal Flush (was Coffee, tea or eternity?)

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Schindler: Don't quote me on that -- I'm going from memory and I actually went and looked at our nearest toilet, but it doesn't say what the capacity is. ... Then it says W / L 5 / 8 I rather suspect that means 5 US gallons but I don't know what the 8

[ZION] The Spratlys

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
This isn't a commonly known area of contention, but it's a potentially big one, given China's claim to the entire Sea of China. The Spratlys are islets in the middle of the sea, jointly claimed by Vietnam, China, the Philippines and Malaysia. China and ASEAN sign Spratly deal. China and the 10

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread Paul Osborne
Larry talking about XXX The Church will, however, see that he is never given a calling or position of responsibility involving the youth or the children in the ward. And for good reason. First, it protects children from possible harm. Second it relieves further burden of the former perpetrator

[ZION] consistent testing found to be a better predictor than charter schools

2002-11-27 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Canada ranks 4th in the OECD (compared to the US at 18th place) when it comes to a lengthy study of 15-year olds' academic capabilities. I believe our secret is twofold: 1) standardized testing; and 2) accountability by the principals and school boards to the parents. Principals are used to

RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread Stacy Smith
Well, it has been said that he was not honest at his baptismal interview. However, I currently have only second-hand information of this. Stacy. At 08:52 PM 11/27/2002 -0600, you wrote: Stacy Smith: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he

Re: [ZION] Just how can we serve?

2002-11-27 Thread Stacy Smith
No, I personally think you did enough. She had others upon which she could call and one can't be too careful. Stacy. At 01:23 PM 11/27/2002 -0500, you wrote: Just got back from lunch and there was this half-frozen coed standing in a snow squall with all her luggage at a bus stop, sobbing her