I have no idea.
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:29 PM
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What laws do you think?
At 06:04 PM 3/19/2004, you wrote:
What laws?
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From: Steven
How about the Law of Moses (Jarom 1:5)? Contained within the law of Moses
are many commandments, among them this one:
(Old Testament | Leviticus 18:22)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
The penalty, for unrepentant sinners was death:
(Old Testament |
Ah yes, and stone to death adulterers too. Cast that first
stone, Steven.
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 9:19 AM
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How about the Law of Moses (Jarom 1:5)? Contained
Hey, all l did was point out the penalty of the law--in the days of Moses
and of the people in the Book of Mormon. Since we don't live under a
theocratic government, death penalties for sabbath breaking and adultery
does seem to be going way too far. Still, in most of the states of the
union
I think Christ provided the answer, don't you?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:48 PM
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Hey, all l did was point out the penalty of the law--in
the days of Moses
and
That's somewhat of a fallacious generalization, John. Yes, it is
difficult and it takes time. But you know what, in business management
terms, we see change as requiring time. When a business changes its
culture, it requires years for the complete change over. Behaviorists
will tell you that
So, Tom, are you saying there is a link between playing the harmonica
and being on death row? Maybe we should continue teaching kids to play
the recorder so we don't raise a generation of harmonica playing thugs!
;-)
As for me, I sing tenor. I've sung in two temple dedication choirs, in
Ron, why is it that you attack the commandments of God like this?
Christ, to this day, condemns sexual impurity, even though he doesn't
demand us to stone people to death. Some judgments MUST be made,
otherwise you end up with no law, no order, only anarchy. Lehi taught
there is right and
I play the Piano
Carinet
and Sing. None as well as I should, but I'm taking Clarinet lessons again.
From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [ZION] Musical Instruments Survey
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:36:38 -0900
How many of you play a
Actually, think the three of you -- Gary, Tom and John-- are
saying the same thing. And, I agree. I think it's important
that we take the long view on Iraq, regard it as a beachhead in
the Middle East for giving root to Democracy, however
limited/modified it may be at first.
RBS
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How did I attack the commandments of God? I merely commented on
Steven's rather harsh and outdated penalties. He didn't ask
whether to comment on what was forbidden by the Lord did he? I
did not *attack* Steven and I certainly did not attack Christ's
teachings.
At the moment, the USA is not a
If he did then perhaps I'm just too blind to see. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
--
Steven Montgomery
At 11:10 AM 3/20/2004, you wrote:
I think Christ provided the answer, don't you?
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From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:48
I think you've got it right. The old laws are off the books. If
they become laws again, they ought to be enforced. What do I
think the penalty ought to be for Sabbath breaking? Dunno. Let
me consult with my Jewish and SDA friends. Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any
RB Scott wrote:
I think you've got it right. The old laws are off the books. If
they become laws again, they ought to be enforced. What do I
think the penalty ought to be for Sabbath breaking? Dunno. Let
me consult with my Jewish and SDA friends. Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching
Hi Gary. My name's Jack, I'm the only son of the listowner. Since I advised
him in writing the post you are responding to (I'm his history advisor), I was
interested in your reply and decided to respond.
Gerald Smith wrote:
That's somewhat of a fallacious generalization, John. Yes, it is
Gerald Smith wrote:
It might take Iraq 40-50 years to switch over to a strong democracy. So
what? It means our grandchildren's children will live in a world with
one more free nation that isn't run by radical kooks.
Hope springs eternal in the human breast,
Man never is but always to be blest.
RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't recall it).
=
Grampa Bill comments:
But the Christ of the New Testament IS the Jehovah of the Old
Testament and in those days with those
No, the current crop of Iraqis didn't rise and destroy Saddam because the
brave ones who tried that more than a decade ago (when they thought we were
going to continue all the way into Baghdad) were slaughtered.
*jeep!
---Chet
If ya thinks ya is right, ya deserfs credit - even if ya is wrong.
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From: Grampa Bill in Savannah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:36 PM
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RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't
Gays and lesbians should stay in the closet.
Their choice. They should NOT be afraid to come out of the closet, nor
should they expect to be accepted.
In my own personal experience, those of my friends who came out of the
closet remained my friends, and were counseled by me in love to change
Watch The Patriot some time. The battles they had in that
war were fought by two sides who had access to very similar weaponry.
Things have changed a lot since then. Governments have access to
stuff that is much more advanced than what the people have.
The Iraqis didn't stand a chance of
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From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:11 AM
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RB Scott wrote:
Seriously, I don't
recall Christ preaching death for any
offense...well, murder
perhaps (but I don't recall
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