Let's face it - there are bigots of all kinds in the world. As you point
out, "mental" illness is often a physical deficiency that affects the
mechanisms of the brain.
My mother was "mentally" ill most of her life, and we suffered greatly for
it. Near her death (heart failure resulting from an a
There should definitely be concern, and I don't think enough is being
done. I think part of the problem comes because not enough steps are being
taken to find out when family domination becomes unrighteous.
Stacy.
At 03:57 PM 11/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Stacy:
Add to this mess people whos
Stacy:
Well, how many of them are diagnosed with true ADHD?
Dan:
I think that is part of the issue. Without going to the expense of sending
every missionary so diagnosed to a recognized specialist, the church needs
to accept the decision of the missionary's family doctor. But how was that
diagn
Stacy:
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Dan:
Right. So what can the church do to help individuals and families dea
>My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
>these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
>ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would
limit
>our ability to get personal revelation.
Personal revelation without m
My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would limit
our ability to get personal revelation.
Stacy.
At 06:58 PM 11/21/2002 +00
Unfortunately, I cannot use today's type drugs. They cause severe
itching. I have had to resort to 20-year-old discovered medicines.
Stacy.
At 12:09 PM 11/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Gary:
The Church's official position is that we should use some caution with
medications for mental illness.
Well, how many of them are diagnosed with true ADHD?
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 11/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Dan R Allen wrote:
---
This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are supp
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Stacy.
At 06:42 AM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>It was brought up in a larger d
>It was brought up in a larger discussion about the number of people in
the
>ward suffering from depression, and the church's change to being more
>supportive of people using drugs to overcome it.
Yep. I'm a big goof and shoot my mouth off all the time and tell people
about my problems to members
Jim,
I just read your post to my wife and she told me to tell you that you are
her hero and she has a crush on you now! She studies mental illness very
seriously.
What an excellent post!
Paul O
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:58:46 + Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
> My regular diatribe o
Dan R Allen wrote:
---
This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are supposably on Ritalyn. Has anyone
else heard this?
---
Jim:
It seems more likely that this report is conflat
Dan R Allen wrote:
---
This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are supposably on Ritalyn. Has anyone
else heard this?
---
It seems more likely that this report is conflated w
At 12:25 11/21/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:
Well said. I call these well-meaning critics "Job's Comforters." My least
favourite (although, again, they're just trying to help) are those who
insist that
I try the latest non-technological fad, be it Tahitian berries or special
massages, and when I te
Jim Cobabe wrote:
> My regular diatribe on this question--
>
> Those of us who now need or have needed psychotrophic drugs for personal
> maintenance face serious enough challenges in life, without having to
> contend with unqualified people who presume to know all about our
> illnesses and affl
Dan:
>This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic
>was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of missionaries from
North
>America are supposably on Ritalyn. Has anyone else heard this?
All three of my kids take it. I couldn't even begin to list all the
medica
Gary:
The Church's official position is that we should use some caution with
medications for mental illness. However, it has drastically backed off
from some statements made by General Authorities even 20 years or less
ago. Elder Packer had a speech (Be Ye Not Troubled), where he warned
about t
My regular diatribe on this question--
Those of us who now need or have needed psychotrophic drugs for personal
maintenance face serious enough challenges in life, without having to
contend with unqualified people who presume to know all about our
illnesses and afflictions. And sadly, there i
Paul Osborne wrote:
> I'm just the opposite. When I repent and follow the gospel plan my sins
> become history.
Yer lucky. When I repent, my sins become part of my wife's history.
["Mom, you'll never believe what he did"]
[actually, that's not true, I'm just throwing off one-liners]
>
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:55:36 -0600 Sandy and Melinda Rabinowitz
> I want to agree with you totally, but I can relate to what Stacy is
> speaking of. For while I try not to think about sin, every so
> often
> I trip upon it--sometimes in much the same way that someone might
> step on a land mine
t;
> >Jut a kindly and humbly administered slap to shake you out of it!
> >
> >Jon
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002
--- From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---
>> I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
>> able to enter the celestial kingdom even when I have repented of them.
--- Jon Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ---
>Satan apparently has done a job on you. Don't you be
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
I believe Christ. I may not always believe in the efficacy of my own
repentance or that I have done enough to satisfy good repentance.
---
"The good news of the gospel is good news to me not because it promises
that other people who are better than I am can be saved, bu
CTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Something Else To Ponder
> I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
> able to enter the celestial kingdom even when I have repented of them.
>
> Stacy.
>
slap to shake you out of it!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Stacy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Something Else To Ponder
> I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past
Amen. Stewardship over the Earth means to learn how to use what's here to improve
our lives, imo.
Paul Osborne wrote:
> >do we rely on medicine instead of
> >priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
>
> The Lord gave mankind the power to invent and find ways to help us with
> our pr
>do we rely on medicine instead of
>priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
The Lord gave mankind the power to invent and find ways to help us with
our problems outside the bounds of prayers and blessings. Millions of
people who don't believe in prayer and blessings are reaping the
You know something I think of alot and wonder if any of y`all do is that
Joseph Smith would not even drink the whiskey they tried to give him to dull
the pain when they worked on his leg, do we rely on medicine instead of
priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
Just wondered what you
>The question then remains: Can we legitimately use substances which
would
>lower our anxiety level, especially if those substances are said to be
>nonaddictive?
I'll take any pills my doctors give me. Tranquilizers, anti-depressants,
or whatever!
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
__
The question then remains: Can we legitimately use substances which would
lower our anxiety level, especially if those substances are said to be
nonaddictive?
Stacy.
At 05:52 PM 11/19/2002 +, you wrote:
-Stacy-
> I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping
> someone to feel
-Stacy-
> I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping
> someone to feel better, also lessens perception of personal
> revelation. Am I right?
I'm no authority on the matter, but I believe you are. As a general
rule, it seems transparently obvious to me that altering one's brain
c
I should clarify that I'm not referring to illegal substances but rather
prescription drugs given by psychiatrists and known to not be
hallucinogenic substances.
Stacy.
At 02:40 PM 11/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
This is an intriguing question that has interested people since antiquity.
There's
I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
able to enter the celestial kingdom even when I have repented of them.
Stacy.
At 12:31 AM 11/18/2002 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping someone to
feel bette
Stacy Smith wrote:
---
I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping someone to
feel better, also lessens perception of personal revelation. Am I
right?
---
We can experience genuine spiritual manifestations that are a result of
the power and direct influence of God. Many make m
This is an intriguing question that has interested people since antiquity. There's
a very strange story about John Strugnell, an extremely controversial personality
who was one of the first people to publish his translation of the DSS, namely the
Copper Scroll, or Treasure Scroll. He was quite anti
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