Re: [ZION] wind power

2002-10-30 Thread Clifford M Dubery
Victoria has a few wind-power projects going or recently completed. I am not convinced they are any good outside a small to medium sized town, a city of 1 - (NY sized) would not be practical. I am concerned about it here because we have an abundance of coal and natural gas, talking about alter

Re: [ZION] aurora borealis spotting

2002-10-30 Thread Wayne and Sandra Riner
My goodness that picture was beautiful, what a site to have seen in person. Thank you for sharing it Sandra > Okay, some people are train spotters. I'm an aurora spotter. We've had > aurorae for some time now. My wife woke me up at 04:00 one morning to > see a very unusual display. It was a gree

Re: [ZION] aurora borealis spotting

2002-10-30 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 23:36 10/29/2002 -0700, you wrote: Okay, some people are train spotters. I'm an aurora spotter. We've had aurorae for some time now. My wife woke me up at 04:00 one morning to see a very unusual display. It was a greenish white swoosh across the entire sky, with the moon right in the middle. Ve

Re: [ZION] aurora borealis spotting

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Matkin
Dear JWR and others, I'm beginning (just beginning mind you) to have parallel thoughts to the venerable ELF. I knew he was going to write this before I read it. I know it is prideful for me to admit to such flights of heady brilliance, but I can't help being pleased that I have made such progress.

RE: [ZION] The veil

2002-10-30 Thread Mark Gregson
How would Shakespeare's sonnet run in modern language? Can it sound as powerful, or did Tolkien have it right, namely, that certain words have power that resonate with us partly because of their deep Anglo-Saxon roots? Let me not to the marriage of true minds -- Let me not to the union of loya

Re: [ZION] CBW: what was used in Moscow?

2002-10-30 Thread Geoff FOWLER
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/02 07:30PM >>> *my son served a mission in Russia and had a "summer missionary" from Moscow who knew a member of the Alpha unit who was in training in Moscow. He said they select orphans and bring them up, educate them and they basically dedicate their whole lives to bei

Re: [ZION] aurora borealis spotting

2002-10-30 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 07:59 10/30/2002 -0700, His Grace, El Presidente Tom wrote: Dear JWR and others, I'm beginning (just beginning mind you) to have parallel thoughts to the venerable ELF. Will this disqualify you from being Stake President? I should think it would in short order, rate some smartly. Till h

RE: [ZION] The veil

2002-10-30 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 00:37 10/31/2002 +0800, His Grace, Bishop Mark wrote: Of course, a truly modern version of this sonnet would be unprintable, but cleaned up it might go something like: Can love last forever? And what if it did? Nights like when Tom called to say that he couldn't come back Because nothing fel

Re: [ZION] wind power

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
It's a matter of price and efficiency. The wind that comes out of the Kicking Horse Pass has been known to knock semis off the highway -- that's why so many are in that area. They just feed into the existing provincial power grid. Clifford M Dubery wrote: > Victoria has a few wind-power project

RE: [ZION] aurora borealis spotting

2002-10-30 Thread Larry Jackson
Till: Till has had a lot of callings over the years, some cool and some silly, but has never done any of them really well He eventually gets fired so someone else can straighten out the mess. ___ No need to feel bad, Till. We all get fired. In the Church, we call it "being r

RE: [ZION] The veil

2002-10-30 Thread Tom Matkin
> >Can love last forever? > >And what if it did? > >Nights like when Tom called to say that he couldn't come back > >Because nothing felt the same anymore > >Seared her soul and she thought "Why not?" > >"I've found a younger, truer kind of love," he said. > >And she wanted to scream and scream at

[ZION] Mormon's words on war

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
It was actually chapter 7 of Mormon. Mormon was talking to the Lamanites ("the remnant of THIS people" verse 1). It seems that because of the promise made to the Lamanites by God (of not being totally destroyed, and being remembered in the day of their faith), the main sign of their true repentanc

[ZION] Chechen gas

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Turns out the earlier speculation I had posted about which gas was used against the Chechen terrorists in the Moscow theatre was wrong: Russian officials are saying it was fenatyl, an opiate some 50 times more potent than morphine. <

[ZION] Who is the House of Israel?

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
Sonia Johnson was excommunicated in the late 1970s for teaching people not to let missionaries into their homes. She was pushing the Equal Rights Amendment, which the Church opposed. She wanted to put political pressure on the Church by having people not allow missionaries into their homes. She ref

[ZION] The Democratic Gaul

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
Can you imagine the nerve of the Democrats at Paul Wellstone's memorial service? I'm not very impressed with the liberal agenda, but I have long believed Wellstone to be a sincere and good man. Yet, here were his friends and son using this memorial to orchestrate a big media launch for the democrat

[ZION] You just don't get it

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
Just to show "I do get it," let me clarify my position. First off, there was a Great Apostasy. The Lord began sending light and truth down to prepare the way for the restoration through Joseph Smith. The fulness of the gospel was restored through the living prophets. The Church is different than

[ZION] My Future Plans

2002-10-30 Thread Gary Smith
It depends. Can you get me a decent job in Utah, or perhaps with Dr Zawahiri in Egypt ;-) K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

RE: [ZION] Chechen gas

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Sheesh. Make that fentanyl. At any rate, this evening on As It Happens they interviewed a CBW expert in Ottawa who said there was an "epidemic" of illicit fentanyl usage in New York a few years ago. It's so potent some people died with needles still in their arms. Marc Schindler wrote: > Turns

[ZION] Iraq: letters in Meridian

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Some interesting letters on both sides of the issue in the latest Meridian magazine: http://www.meridianmagazine.com/letters/index.html -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Guns don’t kill people; people with guns kill people Note: This communicati

Re: [ZION] The Democratic Gaul

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I heard about this on As It Happens. I think an awful lot of Democrats were upset, too. Very poor taste and disrespectful. Gary Smith wrote: > Can you imagine the nerve of the Democrats at Paul Wellstone's memorial > service? I'm not very impressed with the liberal agenda, but I have long > belie

Re: [ZION] My Future Plans

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Zawahir was last seen travelling on horseback towards the Pakistani border, along with Osama bin Laden. For some odd reason he took a trail only horses could traverse, while we allies bombed his more-or-less empty caves. Seriously, Judith Miller, in her book "God Has 99 Names" talks a lot about Muh

Re: [ZION] Who is the House of Israel?

2002-10-30 Thread Marc A. Schindler
FWIW, this is exactly how I remember it, too. She also made a public snit about how her 12-year old daughter wasn't allowed to pass the sacrament. As I recall, her marriage broke up again and she declared she'd been a lesbian all along. Bit of a wacko. Wonder whatever happened to her? As Elvis mig

[ZION] Sonia Johnson (was: Who is the House of Israel?)

2002-10-30 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Marc- > FWIW, this is exactly how I remember it, too. She also made a > public snit about how her 12-year old daughter wasn't allowed > to pass the sacrament. As I recall, her marriage broke up again > and she declared she'd been a lesbian all along. Bit of a wacko. > Wonder whatever happened to h

Re: [ZION] Chechen gas

2002-10-30 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:35 PM 10/30/02, Marc A. Schindler wrote: Turns out the earlier speculation I had posted about which gas was used against the Chechen terrorists in the Moscow theatre was wrong: Russian officials are saying it was fenatyl, an opiate some 50 times more potent than morphine. Not to be confu