Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
'Bout the only thing wrong with her as near as I can tell, is who you'd be getting for a father-in-law! -- And brother-in-law. Certainly no prize there. But since he's in Japan, the prospective "older brother" wouldn't be too much trouble. Cousin Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right. When wrong, to be put right." -- Carl Schurz // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
>-Original Message- >From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:13 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual > > >RB Scott wrote: >>You didn't describe your purpose. While your footnotes may >>support what you claim -- as I recall you provide a >bibliography, >>not traditional footnotes -- it requires the reader to assume >>you've interpreted the source material correctly and that the >>source material supports what you say. I think it's >wiser, more >>compelling, to provide a summary quote or two with an >appropriate >>footnote. > >Just like they do in TIME Magazine, Jonathan.--JWR Exactly like the do in TIME (excepting footnotes). RBS // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Nitpick for discussion concerning your questions: So is it you or she who would not consider marriage to, frex, someone who held a TR but joined the Church too late to serve a mission as a young man? = Grampa responds: Didn't say it was a deal killer for either of us. Just tryin' to see what he's bringin' to the table! Rhetorical question, or you got somebody in mind? Love Y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Jonathan Scott wrote: What is a golddigger called if it's a man? :) Grampa Bill responds: I believe the term is gigolo... but this is different. What is a man called if his dad is trying to set him up with a beautiful, talented girl with a great personality and a high income? Fortunate, I'd say! :-) 'Bout the only thing wrong with her as near as I can tell, is who you'd be getting for a father-in-law! Love Y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
RB Scott wrote: You didn't describe your purpose. While your footnotes may support what you claim -- as I recall you provide a bibliography, not traditional footnotes -- it requires the reader to assume you've interpreted the source material correctly and that the source material supports what you say. I think it's wiser, more compelling, to provide a summary quote or two with an appropriate footnote. Just like they do in TIME Magazine, Jonathan.--JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
>-Original Message- From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual Jonathan: I guess I'm confused as to what you intend to do with the pieces you're writing? Do you imagine this as something you'd like to get published? Are you writing a thesis of some kind? Are you writing for your own purposes only? For instance, you claim the rising divorce rate is the result of women entering the job market, becoming self-sufficient economically. Yet, you present no evidence (other than opinions) to bolster your argument. If you want to convince someone you've got to provide good backup data from objective sources. RBS I listed sources. My opinion was one paragraph. My sources took up the remainder of it. You didn't describe your purpose. While your footnotes may support what you claim -- as I recall you provide a bibliography, not traditional footnotes -- it requires the reader to assume you've interpreted the source material correctly and that the source material supports what you say. I think it's wiser, more compelling, to provide a summary quote or two with an appropriate footnote. RBS Please read my stuff more carefully. Most of it is quotes with a link to the home page below it. My commentaries, I make them as small as possible. -- Jonathan Scott // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
>-Original Message- >From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:16 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual > > >>Jonathan: >> >>I guess I'm confused as to what you intend to do with >the pieces >>you're writing? Do you imagine this as something you'd like to >>get published? Are you writing a thesis of some kind? Are you >>writing for your own purposes only? >> >>For instance, you claim the rising divorce rate is the >result of >>women entering the job market, becoming self-sufficient >>economically. Yet, you present no evidence (other >than opinions) >>to bolster your argument. If you want to convince >someone you've >>got to provide good backup data from objective sources. >> >> >>RBS > > I listed sources. My opinion was one paragraph. > My sources >took up the remainder of it. You didn't describe your purpose. While your footnotes may support what you claim -- as I recall you provide a bibliography, not traditional footnotes -- it requires the reader to assume you've interpreted the source material correctly and that the source material supports what you say. I think it's wiser, more compelling, to provide a summary quote or two with an appropriate footnote. RBS // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Jonathan: I guess I'm confused as to what you intend to do with the pieces you're writing? Do you imagine this as something you'd like to get published? Are you writing a thesis of some kind? Are you writing for your own purposes only? For instance, you claim the rising divorce rate is the result of women entering the job market, becoming self-sufficient economically. Yet, you present no evidence (other than opinions) to bolster your argument. If you want to convince someone you've got to provide good backup data from objective sources. RBS I listed sources. My opinion was one paragraph. My sources took up the remainder of it. -- Jonathan Scott // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
RE: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Jonathan: I guess I'm confused as to what you intend to do with the pieces you're writing? Do you imagine this as something you'd like to get published? Are you writing a thesis of some kind? Are you writing for your own purposes only? For instance, you claim the rising divorce rate is the result of women entering the job market, becoming self-sufficient economically. Yet, you present no evidence (other than opinions) to bolster your argument. If you want to convince someone you've got to provide good backup data from objective sources. RBS >-Original Message- >From: Jonathan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 9:17 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual > > >Howdy, > My next chapters will be dealing with all the >new sources of >poverty that have shown up since the sixties...or before. > I need information on corporations and on how >they are making >more money than before at the cost of employees >salaries...perhaps >also a chapter on jobs going overseas. > Can any of you think of any other of major >sources of poverty >since 1960? Credit cards? Anything... > > Ron...the filter is off. I'd appreciate your >input as well. >Be rude again and the filter goes right back up though. > I doubt you >care, but nonetheless, I'm listening again. >-- >Jonathan Scott > > >// >/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// >/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > >/ -- // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
At 09:25 PM 3/9/04, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Rick Mathis wrote: So, Bill, is she married? I have a 25 year old menace to society who doesn't seem to be making much movement in that direction. = Grampa answers. She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's opinion is she's just gotten comfortable and doesn't want to re-enter the dating scene, but then, Older Sister has an opinion on most everything. Yer boy TR eligible or card-carrying? RM? Nitpick for discussion concerning your questions: So is it you or she who would not consider marriage to, frex, someone who held a TR but joined the Church too late to serve a mission as a young man? -- Ronn! :) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
At 07:25 PM 3/9/2004, Bill wrote: She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's opinion is she's just gotten comfortable and doesn't want to re-enter the dating scene, but then, Older Sister has an opinion on most everything. Yer boy TR eligible or card-carrying? RM? Yes to both. Hmm. What is a golddigger called if it's a man? :) -- Jonathan Scott // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
At 07:25 PM 3/9/2004, Bill wrote: She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's opinion is she's just gotten comfortable and doesn't want to re-enter the dating scene, but then, Older Sister has an opinion on most everything. Yer boy TR eligible or card-carrying? RM? Yes to both. Hmm. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Rick Mathis wrote: So, Bill, is she married? I have a 25 year old menace to society who doesn't seem to be making much movement in that direction. = Grampa answers. She's single and IMHO a knock-out beauty. She has, however, been going steady with a non-member for some eight years now. She has sworn she would not marry outside the temple, but I see no signs of either marriage or her dumping him. Her older sister's opinion is she's just gotten comfortable and doesn't want to re-enter the dating scene, but then, Older Sister has an opinion on most everything. Yer boy TR eligible or card-carrying? RM? Love Y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
At 06:58 PM 3/9/2004, Bill wrote: Failure to obtain education, training, or skills is a certain route to a impoverished life. I have a daughter who is a pharmacist. The day she graduated, Wal-Mart kicked her 26 K wage up over 50K. Two months later, the very day she passed her Registry they made her a manager at a six figure salary. So, Bill, is she married? I have a 25 year old menace to society who doesn't seem to be making much movement in that direction. Rick Mathis // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Jonathan Scott wrote: Can any of you think of any other of major sources of poverty since 1960? Credit cards? Anything... = Grampa Bill comments: The breakdown of the family stands at the head of the poverty cycle. Children of single parents are many times more likely to be brought up in poverty than the offspring of functional families. Failure to obtain education, training, or skills is a certain route to a impoverished life. I have a daughter who is a pharmacist. The day she graduated, Wal-Mart kicked her 26 K wage up over 50K. Two months later, the very day she passed her Registry they made her a manager at a six figure salary. This from Wal-Mart, which has been called "vicious and predatory." OTOH I have a niece who dropped out of high school and gave birth to a child out of wedlock. Guess which one will live a life of poverty? And no, I do not blame corporate America. If Wal-Mart paid their door greeters six figures, they'd be bankrupt in less than a year! All in all, I'd say the root cause of poverty in most cases is a failure to accept responsibility for our actions. -- Love Y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don't. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
[ZION] Help Me Please - Ignore as Usual
Howdy, My next chapters will be dealing with all the new sources of poverty that have shown up since the sixties...or before. I need information on corporations and on how they are making more money than before at the cost of employees salaries...perhaps also a chapter on jobs going overseas. Can any of you think of any other of major sources of poverty since 1960? Credit cards? Anything... Ron...the filter is off. I'd appreciate your input as well. Be rude again and the filter goes right back up though. I doubt you care, but nonetheless, I'm listening again. -- Jonathan Scott // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Topica's complete suite of email marketing solutions visit: http://www.topica.com/?p=TEXFOOTER --^
Re: [ZION] Help Me Please
Hello, I'm working on chapter three, and I need some help. I'm compiling a list of all of the possible positive and negative things kids of the sixties would would have had to measure and consider when choosing whether or not (or how much) to abandon US culture...especially in light of the Vietnam War. Adhering to US Abandoning US Culture Culture --- Positives Acceptance of Life Parents Sex "Honor" Drugs Acceptance of Peers "Freedom" Fun --- Negatives Possible Death Disapproval of Terror Parents Possible Physical Handicap Shame P.S. I guess I wasn't very specific. Could you please help me flesh out the above lists? Thanks. -- Jonathan Scott // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Help Me Please
Hello, I'm working on chapter three, and I need some help. I'm compiling a list of all of the possible positive and negative things kids of the sixties would would have had to measure and consider when choosing whether or not (or how much) to abandon US culture...especially in light of the Vietnam War. Adhering to US Abandoning US Culture Culture --- Positives Acceptance of Life Parents Sex "Honor" Drugs Acceptance of Peers "Freedom" Fun --- Negatives Possible Death Disapproval of Terror Parents Possible Physical Handicap Shame The words "Honor" and "Freedom" are both quoted, because both were perceived at the time in ways that might not adhere to current definitions. The "honor" that a person who had not yet entered the Vietnam war might have received was very different than the "honor" that a veteran from WWII had received. WWII was widely accepted as an honorable war; a war in which a person could be proud to have served. The Vietnam war though was not widely accepted thus making the possible value of the honor of serving in it much less. The "freedom" that a person would have received from being a member of the countercultural movement would have felt like true freedom from the beginning for a short time, until the consequences of unwise decisions began to build up thereby reducing their freedom. The important aspect of it though, is that it "felt" like true freedom to begin with and was much more enticing than the lukewarm "honor" that was available even though the end result of this "freedom" was much less than actual freedom. -- Jonathan Scott -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
