RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-25 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Gary- > And I've done some research and determined that those who > mentioned previously that [bishop] is a position in the > Aaronic Priesthood are partially incorrect. I don't recall anyone saying it was a position in the Aaronic Priesthood; rather, they said it was an office in the Aaronic P

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-25 Thread Gary Smith
The keys stay with the position, not with the person. An elder's quorum president, once released, is an elder. Same with a stake president being a high priest. However, a bishop remains a bishop, just without the active keys. It is not just a position, but an office in the priesthood. And I've done

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread larry . jackson
Stephen Beecroft: -Larry- > You're welcome. It came from the Handbook, which I don't > think has changed in this regard. I wish I could find that bishop and ask him for a clarification. I am sure he had (and read) the GHI, and I am also sure that he would never intentionally have passed along

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Larry- > You're welcome. It came from the Handbook, which I don't > think has changed in this regard. I wish I could find that bishop and ask him for a clarification. I am sure he had (and read) the GHI, and I am also sure that he would never intentionally have passed along such a blunder. Ei

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread larry . jackson
Stephen Beecroft: -Larry- > Keys, where needed, are given to the person set apart for > a calling. He only holds those keys until he is released. How about that? That's directly opposite to what a bishop told me years back. Thanks for the clarification. ___ You're welcome. It cam

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread Mark Gregson
-Larry- > Keys, where needed, are given to the person set apart for > a calling. He only holds those keys until he is released. -Stephen- >How about that? That's directly opposite to what a bishop told me years back. Thanks >for the clarification. I concur with Larry. An ordained bishop,

Re: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I felt the same thing when I was released from my mission. It was an almost palpable loss. "Elmer L. Fairbank" wrote: > At 02:55 10/24/2002 +, St Stephen wrote: > > >If a man who has previously served as elder's quorum president, then > >been released, is again called to serve, he does not ne

Re: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread Marc A. Schindler
But because bishop is an ordination in the first instance, I believe that's why we have the tradition of continuing to call ex-bishops by the honorific "bishop," but it's a tradition and is certainly not required. But because of this, when I talk to Mark privately that's what I call him -- we're

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-24 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 02:55 10/24/2002 +, St Stephen wrote: If a man who has previously served as elder's quorum president, then been released, is again called to serve, he does not need to have the keys given him. He already has them. The same applies to a former bishop who is called to serve again as bishop,

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Larry- > Keys, where needed, are given to the person set apart for > a calling. He only holds those keys until he is released. How about that? That's directly opposite to what a bishop told me years back. Thanks for the clarification. Stephen //

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread larry . jackson
Stephen Beecroft: If a man who has previously served as elder's quorum president, then been released, is again called to serve, he does not need to have the keys given him. ___ Keys, where needed, are given to the person set apart for a calling. He only holds those keys until he

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread John W. Redelfs
At 02:55 AM, Thursday, 10/24/02, Stephen Beecroft wrote: I mentioned before that there were two definitions of the term "high priest". To be more accurate, there are at least three definitions of "high priest" that refer to a holder of the true Priesthood: 1. The lead, or head, or "high", priest

Re: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Osborne
>Hopefully, these will help to show the importance of the future >ordination of all of us brethren as high priests and kings unto God the >Father. Ok. I'm convinced. I look forward to my ordination someday. :-) Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

RE: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Stephen Beecroft
-Gary- > I give Stephen the point that I can't find a specific scripture > showing one will eventually be ordained a high priest in heaven. > However, i still hold to that point. However, I do have some > quotes below. Without scriptural backing, that's merely a speculative opinion with no founda

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
I give Stephen the point that I can't find a specific scripture showing one will eventually be ordained a high priest in heaven. However, i still hold to that point. However, I do have some quotes below. BTW, it isn't just a "modern office." Melchizedek was a high priest. Christ was ordained a hig

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Gary Smith
I agree that the office of High Priest is not necessary in this life. I've never said that. I've only said that it is necessary to be a god. When we are set apart to be "kings and priests" the term "priest" means "high priest". There is very strong symbolism in it. See my other email on this with

Re: [ZION] High Priest

2002-10-23 Thread Paul Osborne
>Then you would logically follow from your argument that one wouldn't have >to be ordained a god, king and high priest? >That's not what I read in the scriptures. I read in Rev 1:6 and other >references that we must be made kings and high priests unto God the >Father. I'm willing to learn and ch

[ZION] High Priest

2002-10-22 Thread Gary Smith
Then you would logically follow from your argument that one wouldn't have to be ordained a god, king and high priest? That's not what I read in the scriptures. I read in Rev 1:6 and other references that we must be made kings and high priests unto God the Father. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smith