Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I'm talking about two different points in time. For the past 2-3 decades China and India have not been particularly friendly -- China and Pakistan were. But there was a time when China provided technology to India. I remember that they also provided aid to India after the great Gujarat earthquake l

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I had to ask my co-host for the name of the vice-governor of Heilongjiang and he responded late this afternoon: the visit was just before Labout Day 2000 and there were four Chinese, plus the vice-consul from Calgary. Madame Ma Shujie, Vice Governor, Government of Heilongjiang (responsible for Scie

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Gary Smith favored us with: China doesn't like India, so it hasn't done anything for them. However, they have helped fund N Korea and Pakistan efforts. I read in one of my "right-wing" sources that China provided Pakistan with complete nuclear delivery systems in violation

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with: China used to supply technology to India, but India's now far more advanced than China. They have never supplied anything to Pakistan as far as I'm aware, who was the US client in the region during the Cold War. China also has some major

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread Marc A. Schindler
True -- there are at least three border disputes that I can think of, and one of them is a very large area controlled by China but claimed by India that also abuts Kashmir, so it's a very dicey situation. There was an occasional minor skirmish between border patrols once some 10 years ago, iirc. In

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-14 Thread Marc A. Schindler
China used to supply technology to India, but India's now far more advanced than China. They have never supplied anything to Pakistan as far as I'm aware, who was the US client in the region during the Cold War. China also has some major border issues with India, and India has given refuge to a num

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-13 Thread John W. Redelfs
After much pondering, Gary Smith favored us with: Although we are still technically better and more skilled, their numbers allow them an advantage we don't have. A war with them would end up in mass casualties on both sides. And they wouldn't fear using the bomb, because the Chinese believe that t

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-13 Thread Dan R Allen
>Their military equipment is also built to a much different quality >requirement than their commercial stuff - just like ours. They do have the >technical know-how to build electronic equipment correctly - they just >don't "waste" it on commercial stuff. Paul: I can't argue with this because I

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-13 Thread Paul Osborne
>Their military equipment is also built to a much different quality >requirement than their commercial stuff - just like ours. They do have the >technical know-how to build electronic equipment correctly - they just >don't "waste" it on commercial stuff. I can't argue with this because I don't kn

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-12 Thread Marc A. Schindler
Anyone who does business in China will soon learn that the military gets the best, just like the old Soviet Union. In fact, generals and other senior officers are allowed now (since 1985) to get involved as partners on joint ventures with foreign firms, which brings in technology (not to mention mo

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-12 Thread Marc A. Schindler
I dunno, Paul -- you should see what's happening in areas like Chongqing, the Pearl River Delta (Guangdong-Hong Kong) and Shanghai these days. It would amaze you. I've posted a picture of Shanghai that an LDS friend took during a recent trip there. You can see it at: http://www.geocities.com/marcsc

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-12 Thread Dan R Allen
Paul: Actually, the Chinese are not much of a world force even today in my opinion. Not to offend anyone but their technology is flawed and I'll tell you right now that they cannot even design a proper light bulb! I've personally torn down Chinese made light bulbs and have compared them to Ameri

Re: [ZION] China

2002-11-12 Thread Paul Osborne
>Who cares? At the time, Red China didn't have any power. They couldn't >have fought us without losing gazillions of people. They were fighting >with clubs and pitchforks Actually, the Chinese are not much of a world force even today in my opinion. Not to offend anyone but their technology i