Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-17 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
This Pythomnic [1] project -- that came up yesterday in Daily Python -- is worthy to investigate. I'll add it to the RPC Survey. By the way, that will take longer too complete due to a project-boom at the company this week. [1] http://www.pythomnic.org/overview.html cheers, Senra --

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-09 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
[ Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]: | | Some notes on this can be found at: | | http://svn.zope.org/ZODB/branches/network/notes.txt?view=markup I volunteered to give some input about what is going on inside Python's RPC World, food for the reus

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-07 Thread Jim Fulton
Some notes on this can be found at: http://svn.zope.org/ZODB/branches/network/notes.txt?view=markup Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com h

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 10:32:12AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | Sidnei da Silva wrote: | ... | >Oh, if I'm allowed to speak *wink*, it would be great if in this | >refactoring 'zrpc' could be made to work with less dependencies. | > | >I'm using 'zrpc' on a project and it was a pain to implement a |

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Sidnei da Silva wrote: ... Oh, if I'm allowed to speak *wink*, it would be great if in this refactoring 'zrpc' could be made to work with less dependencies. I'm using 'zrpc' on a project and it was a pain to implement a minimally working application because it depended on a few convoluted step

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Sidnei da Silva
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 07:25:50AM -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: | >IMHO there is no downside. People would be "heavily dependent" if they | >e.g. had programs directly interacting with ZEO internals, or | >subclassing ZEO components. I would bet the number of people who are in | >that position ca

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2006, at 02:57, David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim and Roderigo! This is encouraging news. I have been putting much thought into this also. There is a downside to refactoring ZEO in that there are many folks heavily depend

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Fulton
David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim and Roderigo! This is encouraging news. I have been putting much thought into this also. There is a downside to refactoring ZEO in that there are many folks heavily dependent on it and also reasonably happy with it. The refactoring we are talking about won't effect t

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote: ... I volunteer to help with two-hours time slices on a daily basis, probably more on weekends. Great. We should figure out a time to discuss what we're going to do. I can often be found on the #zope3-dev irc channel. Otherwise, I'll start some email discuss

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 5 May 2006, at 02:57, David Pratt wrote: Hi Jim and Roderigo! This is encouraging news. I have been putting much thought into this also. There is a downside to refactoring ZEO in that there are many folks heavily dependent on it and also re

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-04 Thread David Pratt
Hi Jim and Roderigo! This is encouraging news. I have been putting much thought into this also. There is a downside to refactoring ZEO in that there are many folks heavily dependent on it and also reasonably happy with it. Secondly, zeo has a specific place and relationship. When I initiated

Re: [ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-04 Thread Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra
[ Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]: | I'd like to do all of these things, but the main reason to refactor | ZEO's networking architecture is to make it testable. | | Writing ZEO tests now requires actually starting servers and | clients. This is nuts.

[ZODB-Dev] Really want to refactor ZEO's networking archiecture

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Fulton
I think that my next big project might be to refactor ZEO's networking architecture. Wonder what the main reason is? - Provide more secure connections? Nope - Leverage Twisted? Nope - Get rid if the insane async/sync client madness? Nope - Get better storage-server performance? Nope - Allow sim