Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Ethan Quach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jerry, > > If its not for general purpose, then yes, I agree /ROOT is > more clear. ?(And I also agree about the rpool name) > > Regarding a general purpose dataset, IMO we need to always automatically > give this branded zon

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Ethan Quach
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Ethan Quach wrote: >> >> >> Ethan Quach wrote: >>> Jerry Jelinek wrote: >>> Evan Layton wrote: > This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with > "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can > still >

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Ethan Quach wrote: > > > Ethan Quach wrote: >> Jerry Jelinek wrote: >> >>> Evan Layton wrote: >>> This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can still create things there but this is the on

Re: [zones-discuss] Memory allocation for non-global zones

2008-08-27 Thread Jeff Victor
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can a non-global zone utilize all the available memory on the system if > resource management is not used and rcap is not used? A non-global zone could use up most of the free physical memory on the system. If that happened,

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Ethan Quach
Ethan Quach wrote: > Jerry Jelinek wrote: > >> Evan Layton wrote: >> >>> This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with >>> "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can still >>> create things there but this is the only place that we look for BE's

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Evan Layton
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Evan Layton wrote: >> This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with >> "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can still >> create things there but this is the only place that we look for BE's. >> Datasets outside this are not consi

[zones-discuss] Memory allocation for non-global zones

2008-08-27 Thread Patrick Ho
Can a non-global zone utilize all the available memory on the system if resource management is not used and rcap is not used? Thanks, Patrick ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Ethan Quach
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Evan Layton wrote: >> This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with >> "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can still >> create things there but this is the only place that we look for BE's. >> Datasets outside this are not con

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Evan Layton wrote: > This is the same as what is done with /rpool/ROOT and ZFS boot, with > "ROOT" being the confined area where we place BE's. An admin can still > create things there but this is the only place that we look for BE's. > Datasets outside this are not considered BE's but would be sha

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Evan Layton
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Ethan, > > Ethan Quach wrote: >> >> Jerry Jelinek wrote: >>> Ethan Quach wrote: Hey Jerry, I just thought about something regarding the zones dataset namespace. Instead of creating the dataset for zone roots at: rpool/export/zones/z1/rpool/

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Ethan, Ethan Quach wrote: > > > Jerry Jelinek wrote: >> Ethan Quach wrote: >>> Hey Jerry, >>> >>> I just thought about something regarding the zones dataset >>> namespace. Instead of creating the dataset for zone roots at: >>> >>> rpool/export/zones/z1/rpool/ZBE1 >>> >>> Maybe we should ins

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Ethan Quach
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Ethan Quach wrote: >> Hey Jerry, >> >> I just thought about something regarding the zones dataset >> namespace. Instead of creating the dataset for zone roots at: >> >> rpool/export/zones/z1/rpool/ZBE1 >> >> Maybe we should insert the "roped off" ROOT container dataset

Re: [zones-discuss] [caiman-discuss] SNAP zones layout proposal.

2008-08-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Ethan Quach wrote: > Hey Jerry, > > I just thought about something regarding the zones dataset > namespace. Instead of creating the dataset for zone roots at: > > rpool/export/zones/z1/rpool/ZBE1 > > Maybe we should insert the "roped off" ROOT container dataset > like we do in the global zo

Re: [zones-discuss] zones/SNAP design

2008-08-27 Thread Jerry Jelinek
Darren J Moffat wrote: > Jerry Jelinek wrote: >> Currently, with user defined properties, the values can be changed >> inside the zone. The proposal actually depends on this feature. >> It sounds like you might need to talk to the zfs team about some >> enhancements here so we can have properties

Re: [zones-discuss] zones/SNAP design

2008-08-27 Thread Darren J Moffat
Jerry Jelinek wrote: > Currently, with user defined properties, the values can be changed > inside the zone. The proposal actually depends on this feature. > It sounds like you might need to talk to the zfs team about some > enhancements here so we can have properties that cannot be changed > on d