2009/3/11 Roger Ineichen d...@projekt01.ch:
Betreff: [Zope-dev] Proposal: refactoring of zope.app.security
- Move IAuthentication and other interfaces into new
zope.authentication package. Also move there PrincipalSource and the
checkPrincipal utility function. Also move there the
Hi All,
Now we have 'setuptools' as a dependency for all packages.
(I guess this is to make Buildout happy ?)
So, it is certain that 'pkg_resources' module will be always
available as it is bundled with 'setuptools'. If that is the case,
why do we need a fall-back import of 'pkgutil' to
Hi,
the data converter for objects raises a ValueError if it can't find a
factory. This is caught by the validation machinery around it and
displayed to the user with 'There were errors'. This isn't helpful as
the user isn't told whats going on and he won't be able to do anything
about it.
The
On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Baiju M wrote:
Hi All,
Now we have 'setuptools' as a dependency for all packages.
(I guess this is to make Buildout happy ?)
No, it is because setuptools is needed for namespace packages.
So, it is certain that 'pkg_resources' module will be always
2009/3/11 Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com:
Hi people!
One of most large packages that really wants to be refactored but
still wasn't touched is zope.app.security. It has much in it and it
brings many dependencies, including zope.app.form and company. And
even some zope.* packages, like
Hanno Schlichting wrote:
Dan Korostelev wrote:
This was done to avoid dependency on zope.schema. However, I also find
it very useful to have that vocabulary in zope.password. I think we
can add it to the vocabulary submodule without adding dependency on
zope.schema at egg level, because one
Hey,
If it's more convenient to have the vocabulary available in
zope.password, by all means add it there.
Regards,
Martijn
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Hi there,
Okay, having read the whole thread, there seem to be two forces pulling
on zope.password:
* it'd be nice if zope.password had the vocabulary so that you didn't
have to include zope.app.authentication anymore just to get it.
* it'd be nice if zope.password didn't need any extra
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Jim Fulton wrote:
On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Baiju M wrote:
Hi All,
Now we have 'setuptools' as a dependency for all packages.
(I guess this is to make Buildout happy ?)
No, it is because setuptools is needed for namespace packages.
Hey,
Dan Korostelev wrote:
One of most large packages that really wants to be refactored but
still wasn't touched is zope.app.security.
In fact we did touch it a bit, moving some bits from it into
zope.security. And your zope.password work affected its dependencies of
course. But I know
Dan Korostelev wrote:
2009/3/11 Roger Ineichen d...@projekt01.ch:
Betreff: [Zope-dev] Proposal: refactoring of zope.app.security
- Move IAuthentication and other interfaces into new
zope.authentication package. Also move there PrincipalSource and the
checkPrincipal utility function. Also
Hey,
Dan Korostelev wrote:
If there's no more opinions/objections/suggestions, I'd start refactoring.
See my replies just now. I'm in favor of starting the refactoring work,
as long as you do it step by step.
Regards,
Martijn
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On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Christian Theune wrote:
Objections for changing this?
No. As long as all the tests pass, everything is game for z3c.form 2.0. :-)
Regards,
Stephan
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On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Martijn Faassen wrote:
I think the latter is the least important right now, especially since
zope.component and zope.schema are already very foundational libraries.
So just add the vocabulary to zope.password if that is the only new
dependencies it will pull in as a
Hi,
2 weeks ago, I've implemented a support for nested group into the
branch svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.form/branches/sagblmi-nestedgroup
All test pass and no compatibility issue.
Can I merge it to the trunk?
Regards
Laurent Mignon
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2009/3/11 Laurent Mignon laurent.mig...@softwareag.com:
Hi,
2 weeks ago, I've implemented a support for nested group into the
branch svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.form/branches/sagblmi-nestedgroup
All test pass and no compatibility issue.
Can I merge it to the trunk?
I think yes, if
Dan Korostelev wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
[snip]
You would expect from the naming that bits of zope.app.authentication
would end up in zope.authentication as well.
Yep, that can be expected from the naming, but really,
zope.app.authentication is just one of
Dan Korostelev wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
[snip]
- Move global principal registry, its IPrincipal/IGroup
implementations and its directives into new zope.principalregistry
package.
Why not name it zope.principal?
It sounds confusing to me. Also, the global
Dan Korostelev wrote:
[snip]
Well, as I said before, I wanted to use zope.password in my old Pylons
application that only uses zope.interface currently. I don't expect it
to be developed in more zope-ish way (though I don't expect it to be
developed much in near future :)), so I'd like to
Hi there,
Stephan Richter wrote:
[snip]
In my opinion going for an extra here just to avoid this is speculating
a bit too much right now. Do we really have users that want to use
zope.password and really don't want zope.component and zope.schema? If
so, we'll hear from them when they speak up
Laurent Mignon wrote:
Hi,
2 weeks ago, I've implemented a support for nested group into the
branch svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/z3c.form/branches/sagblmi-nestedgroup
All test pass and no compatibility issue.
Can I merge it to the trunk?
What's the use case for this?
Martin
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Hi people!
As a part of zope.app.security refactoring process, I extracted local
(persistent) permissions to new zope.localpermission. And I faced
one problem and I'm not sure about its resolution.
Originally, I wanted to only move the zope.Public permission
declaration into zope.security,
On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Since Jim says you're not missing something, I'm going to add to the
Zope Framework Steering Group decisions that this is enough and we
could clean up __init__.py's to this if we would want to.
So, let me try to understand the decision
Hey,
Dan Korostelev wrote:
As a part of zope.app.security refactoring process, I extracted local
(persistent) permissions to new zope.localpermission. And I faced
one problem and I'm not sure about its resolution.
Originally, I wanted to only move the zope.Public permission
declaration
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Zvezdan Petkovic zvez...@zope.com wrote:
On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Since Jim says you're not missing something, I'm going to add to the
Zope Framework Steering Group decisions that this is enough and we
could clean up __init__.py's
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
You should write up a short description of what zope.principalregistry
does. In fact whenever we propose a new package we should describe its
mission statement in just a couple of lines. That'll help us think
about it better.
I'll add a short
Hey,
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote:
On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Since Jim says you're not missing something, I'm going to add to the
Zope Framework Steering Group decisions that this is enough and we
could clean up __init__.py's to this if we would want to.
So, let me
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
Dan Korostelev wrote:
Originally, I wanted to only move the zope.Public permission
declaration into zope.security, because that permission name is
special and always available. As for other permissions
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote:
Nit: In this case, two lines are better than one.
import pkg_resources
pkg_resources.declare_namespace(__name__)
There's no need to use the lesser known __import__ function when an
ordinary import statement
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
Oh, and on the topic, one more time: can we have a steering group
decision on the package requirements for zcml statements? Are we doing
extras for them or simply skipping them?
Sorry, I wasn't clear that there was an open question and I'm
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
Hi there,
Stephan Richter wrote:
[snip]
In my opinion going for an extra here just to avoid this is speculating
a bit too much right now. Do we really have users that want to use
zope.password and really don't want
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
You should write up a short description of what zope.principalregistry
does. In fact whenever we propose a new package we should describe its
mission statement in just a
2009/3/12 Benji York be...@zope.com:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
You should write up a short description of what zope.principalregistry
does. In fact whenever we propose a new package we should
Hey, people!
While working on splitting authentication interfaces and
PrincipalSource from zope.app.security to new zope.authentication
package, I discovered that PrincipalSource uses some functions from
zope.site, which is unacceptable dependency.
Those functions are getNextUtility and
Benji York wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Dan Korostelev nad...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
You should write up a short description of what zope.principalregistry
does. In fact whenever we propose a new package we should describe its
mission
Hey,
Dan Korostelev wrote:
The zope.principalregistry is an non-persistent implementation of
IAuthentication that allows us to define principals via zcml (the
principal directive and company) or with simple python calls. It's
also quite useful for tests.
It defines the registry and the ZCML
Dan Korostelev wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
[snip]
If it doesn't introduce new dependencies, I think a few more definitions
of permissions in zope.security won't hurt (only those commonly used).
I'd like that better than introducing a new package. Do you think this
I decided to start a new branch of that, because there's no still
response on my requests for a release. Here's the last message:
Let's decide that and make a release of zope.component so we could
move forward on adapting other packages to recent removal of BBB
interfaces.
Here's three
Hey, community.
As a part of zope.app.security refactoring process, a new package has
been created - zope.authentication. It basically contains
IAuthentication and other auth-related interfaces, as well as
PrincipalSource. So it's intended to define a basic concepts and
contracts of principal
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
Dan Korostelev wrote:
2009/3/11 Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com:
Oh, and on the topic, one more time: can we have a steering group
decision on the package requirements for zcml statements? Are we doing
extras for
Hi,
Sorry for doing this by email rather than unit test, but I'm a bit
over-stretched at the moment.
plone.z3cform has a backport of z3c.form trunk's TextLines widget
(when's that release coming, any ideas?).
In using it, I discovered that the converter (converter.py on z3c.form
trunk) does
Hey, people!
The refactoring of zope.app.security is now almost done. There's still
some polishing work to do and two little issues to resolve. One of
them is the zope's common permissions. Most of zope.* and zope.app.*
(and other) packages define some security protections for their
classes and
Martin Aspeli wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for doing this by email rather than unit test, but I'm a bit
over-stretched at the moment.
plone.z3cform has a backport of z3c.form trunk's TextLines widget
(when's that release coming, any ideas?).
In using it, I discovered that the converter
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Shane Hathaway sh...@hathawaymix.org wrote:
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Since ``setuptools`` is a dependency of our packages anyway, we
can instead do the following::
__import__('pkg_resources').declare_namespace(__name__)
Feel free to use that
On Wednesday 11 March 2009, Martin Aspeli wrote:
It's confusing to users when the widget renders the value in seemingly
random order. :)
+1 on the first and second E-mail.
Regards,
Stephan
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On 11.03.2009 6:22 Uhr, Analog Kid wrote:
Hi All:
I need to know the order of method calls inside ZopePageTemplate.py
whenever a form from the PT is submitted or even when the PT is
rendered. Can anyone shed some light on this please?
This
sry about that ... what i mean is i need to know the order of methods when a
page is rendered (on server) ...
regards,
AK
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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On 11.03.2009 6:22 Uhr, Analog Kid wrote:
Hi All:
Where and why is this relevant?
-aj
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 08:54, Analog Kid garlictrom...@gmail.com wrote:
sry about that ... what i mean is i need to know the order of methods when a
page is rendered (on server) ...
regards,
AK
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Andreas Jung
Hi
I was wondering if there is a way to connect the creation of a session
object to a button push.
I'll explain in more detail:
I have a log in from called login_form, and I have a dtml method called
looged_in that is called when we push the submit button in the log in
form.
What I did
+---[ Dvir Bar-lev ]--
| Hi
|
|
|
| I was wondering if there is a way to connect the creation of a session object
| to a button push.
|
| I?ll explain in more detail:
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| I have a log in from called login_form, and I have a dtml method called
| looged_in that
i want to make sure that a certain method gets called before anything else
when the template gets rendered. so if i know about the order in which page
template methods get called, i can patch one (the first in the order).
thanks,
AK
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com
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This approach is broken by design-by-design. If you want to depend on
the execution order: move the related code into a Python script and call
the script from within the template.
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On 11.03.2009 9:18 Uhr, Analog Kid wrote:
i want to make sure
Hi
I have a button like that but the the problem is that it also has this
value if I refresh the page, what I mean Is this, I put in the logged_in
page:
dtml-if Request.has_key('theButton')
Do something
/dtml-if
And it has the key even if I refresh the page.
I also tried to put dtm-var
hi andreas:
the reason i need to do it this way is that no page template must be
modified ... so i cant call a py script from the template.
regards,
AK
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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This approach is broken
I also tried to change the value of theButton key like so:
dtml-if REQUEST.has_key('submit')
dtml-if REQUEST.get('submit') == 'Login'
dtml-call REQUEST.set('submit', 'LoggedIn')
/dtml-if
/dtml-if
But if refresh the button it still thinks it has the value Login
+---[ Dvir Bar-lev ]--
| Hi
|
| I have a button like that but the the problem is that it also has this
| value if I refresh the page, what I mean Is this, I put in the logged_in
| page:
That is highly unlikely, unless you are refreshing AFTER you submit the
form, in which
Yep I refresh after, I'll try to work with cookies than, tx
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From: Andrew Milton [mailto:a...@theinternet.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:13 AM
To: Dvir Bar-lev
Cc: zope@zope.org
Subject: Re: [Zope] session data object question
+---[ Dvir Bar-lev
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:32, Dvir Bar-lev dvi...@puresight.com wrote:
What I need is a way to know if we loaded the page as a result of
pressing the button or as a result of refreshing the page, as I need to
do different things in each case.
There is no difference between a refresh and a
+---[ Lennart Regebro ]--
| On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:32, Dvir Bar-lev dvi...@puresight.com wrote:
| What I need is a way to know if we loaded the page as a result of
| pressing the button or as a result of refreshing the page, as I need to
| do different things in each
Hi
I want to redirect a user from my page to another page after a certain
time, I put this code in the dtml page at the top I want to redirect
from:
dtml-call REQUEST.RESPONSE.setHeader('Refresh', '5', 'URL Address')
But although it does refresh after the timeout it stays in the same
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On 11.03.2009 13:59 Uhr, Dvir Bar-lev wrote:
Hi
I want to redirect a user from my page to another page after a certain
time, I put this code in the dtml page at the top I want to redirect from:
dtml-call
Yep, you were right, the syntax I used was bad, but now I encountered a
diffrent problem.
If i set the header as you said and manually refresh the page than it wont
redirect again.
Anyone encountered this before? Can't find anything on the web about this
problem
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Hi just wanted to add something that I forgot to meantion.
The problem I described only happenes on IE, on firefox it does the redirect
even after I refresh the page manually
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From: zope-boun...@zope.org [mailto:zope-boun...@zope.org] On Behalf Of Dvir
Bar-lev
Sent:
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Analog Kid wrote:
hi andreas:
the reason i need to do it this way is that no page template must be
modified ... so i cant call a py script from the template.
regards,
AK
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Andreas Jung li...@zopyx.com wrote:
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