Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-11-11 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Jens Vagelpohl ha escrit: The only issues you might ever run into would be problems with the Python that comes with the OS. But then again if you run Zope in production you should never ever use the system Python and build your own instead. The system Python tends to be compiled with

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-29 Thread HaraldFinnås
Can I humbly recommend that you don't reinvent the wheel and have a look at www.issuetrackerproduct.com It's really good for QA and general problem reporting. Thanks, I'll take a look at it right away. :) Regards, Harald ___ Zope maillist -

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Oct 2005, at 08:03, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: doesn't seem to cause any trouble. So it stays. Just to remind me never to use redhat or rpms. How the bad RPMs you used make you blame RedHat as a whole isn't a jump I can follow... you should be blaming those people who packages the

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread bruno desthuilliers
HaraldFinnås wrote: (snip) and I plan on writing a simple application for tracking Non-Conformaties, Incident Reports etc (QA related). Have you tried Trac ? -- bruno desthuilliers développeur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.modulix.com ___ Zope

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread HaraldFinnås
bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28.10.2005 11:09:00: Have you tried Trac ? No, but now I will. It's listed as software development tracking so I've ignored it. :) Regards, Harald ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 28 Oct 2005, at 10:26, Einar Næss Jensen wrote: How the bad RPMs you used make you blame RedHat as a whole isn't a jump I can follow... you should be blaming those people who packages the RPMs and not the whole distribution. I'm sure Redhat works fine for many people in a lot of

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Einar Næss Jensen
On 10/28/05, Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Oct 2005, at 10:26, Einar Næss Jensen wrote:Debian is a great distribution, no doubt, but X works for us while Ydoes not is a misleading statement that creates wrong impressions.It's not RedHat's fault that you weren't up to speed on some

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Sascha Ottolski
Am Freitag, 28. Oktober 2005 11:33 schrieb HaraldFinnås: bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28.10.2005 11:09:00: Have you tried Trac ? No, but now I will. It's listed as software development tracking so I've ignored it. :) you also might want to take a look at roundup

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-28 Thread Peter Bengtsson
On 10/27/05, HaraldFinnås [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on what you are going to use it for. So, tell us! :-) Not sure myself yet. :) There will certainly be a couple of Plone sites, and I plan on writing a simple application for tracking Non-Conformaties, Incident Reports etc (QA

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 26 Oct 2005, at 21:43, HaraldFinnås wrote: I've also seen comments that running Zope on RHEL/CentOS might not be wise. My test env. is using FC4, but I'm planning to install CenOS 4.2 on the production server. Unwise choice? I'd be curious to find out who says something like that. It's

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 26 Oct 2005, at 21:43, HaraldFinnås wrote: I've also seen comments that running Zope on RHEL/CentOS might not be wise. My test env. is using FC4, but I'm planning to install CenOS 4.2 on the production server. Unwise choice? I'd be curious to find out who says

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 08:58, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: well, on larger shops like ours, the sysadms always want to know why we introduce Yet Another Non-Standard Component to the system setup that cannot be RPM'ed like the rest. And I am not talking across pythoin versions, but oin the same

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/26/05, HaraldFinnås [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm new to Zope, and I've been playing with 2.8.1, but I really haven't done any real work with it yet. Now I expect to get my new decicated Zope hardware tomorrow, so I have to decide if I should go for 2.8.4 or 3.1.0. Any tips if I should

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread HaraldFinnås
Depends on what you are going to use it for. So, tell us! :-) Not sure myself yet. :) There will certainly be a couple of Plone sites, and I plan on writing a simple application for tracking Non-Conformaties, Incident Reports etc (QA related). But based on the responses until now, I've already

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Sascha Ottolski
Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 09:37 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: The only issues you might ever run into would be problems with the   Python that comes with the OS. But then again if you run Zope in   production you should never ever use the system Python and build your   own instead. The system

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 10:22, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 09:37 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: The only issues you might ever run into would be problems with the Python that comes with the OS. But then again if you run Zope in production you should never ever use the system

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Sascha Ottolski
Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 13:20 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: You just noted one more disadvantage yourself: The system Python is   likely to be out of step with what Zope wants. Furthermore, updates   to the system Python or to add-on packages might have unintended   consequences for your

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 12:55, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 13:20 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: You just noted one more disadvantage yourself: The system Python is likely to be out of step with what Zope wants. Furthermore, updates to the system Python or to add-on packages

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Sascha Ottolski
Am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2005 14:17 schrieb Jens Vagelpohl: well, might have is one thing, really experiencing problems is quite different... Look, it's all about how much risk you are willing to carry. I don't like playing Russian Roulette with services that are supposed to be highly

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 27 Oct 2005, at 13:30, Sascha Ottolski wrote: Look, it's all about how much risk you are willing to carry. I don't like playing Russian Roulette with services that are supposed to be highly available. And I don't want to have to waste a single thought on problems that *might* develop if

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/27/05, HaraldFinnås [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on what you are going to use it for. So, tell us! :-) Not sure myself yet. :) There will certainly be a couple of Plone sites Well, Plone doesn't run on Zope 3, so there ya go. :) -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/

Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-27 Thread Bill Campbell
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 27 Oct 2005, at 08:58, Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: well, on larger shops like ours, the sysadms always want to know why we introduce Yet Another Non-Standard Component to the system setup that cannot be RPM'ed like the rest. And I am not talking

[Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread HaraldFinnås
I'm new to Zope, and I've been playing with 2.8.1, but I really haven't done any real work with it yet. Now I expect to get my new decicated Zope hardware tomorrow, so I have to decide if I should go for 2.8.4 or 3.1.0. Any tips if I should go for the latest and greatest or stick with 2.8? I've

RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread Doyon, Jean-Francois
you need ... some CMF things aren't avilable in it yet. J.F. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HaraldFinnåsSent: October 26, 2005 4:43 PMTo: zope@zope.orgSubject: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1? I'm new to Zope, and I've been playing with 2.8.1, but I really haven't done

RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread HaraldFinnås
Doyon, Jean-Francois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.2005 22:40:09: I'm using Zope 2.7.x on RHEL 3.x without trouble ... Though I should be upgrading to CentOS 4.x fairly soon ... what problems have you heard of? I think the problems were related to OS software versions like Python. And most

RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread Doyon, Jean-Francois
pretty straight-forward mind you. J.F. From: HaraldFinnås [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: October 26, 2005 4:55 PMTo: zope@zope.orgCc: Doyon, Jean-FrancoisSubject: RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1? "Doyon, Jean-Francois" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 26.10.2005 22:40:09: I'm using

RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
To: zope@zope.org Subject: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1? I'm new to Zope, and I've been playing with 2.8.1, but I really haven't done any real work with it yet. Now I expect to get my new decicated Zope hardware tomorrow, so I have to decide if I should go for 2.8.4 or 3.1.0. Any tips if I should go

RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1?

2005-10-26 Thread Andrew Sawyers
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doyon, Jean-Francois Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:40 PM To: 'HaraldFinnås'; zope@zope.org Subject: RE: [Zope] Zope 2.8 or 3.1? I'm using Zope 2.7.x on RHEL 3.x without trouble ... Though I should be upgrading to CentOS 4.x fairly soon ... what