RE: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-07 Thread John Snowdon
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Jens Vagelpohl >Sent: 07 October 2005 09:04 >To: Zope ML >Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability > > >> As an aside, we find management of ZEO clients much easier >if e

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-07 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
As an aside, we find management of ZEO clients much easier if each ZEO client of a particular system shares the same products and external methods via an NFS share. That way we can untar one product and push it out to all of the clients simultaneously. I'd be a little afraid of creating a sin

RE: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-07 Thread John Snowdon
>--On 5. Oktober 2005 17:37:08 +0100 Tom Wilde ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> I've been using Zope for a while now and found it to be an excellent >> solution however I've got a few enterprise questions about the >> scalability of Zope that just need to be answered. >> >> [ nb

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 10/5/05, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This would require how much RAM for the index? :-) It can hold 16 billion billion pointers, with each pointer being 48 bits, thats 96 exabytes (100 million terabytes). Just for the index. :) As an absolute minimum. Indexes normally being btrees

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Tim Peters] >> If you're using FileStorage, a technical detail in the implementation >> of the FileStorage index limits the maximum file offset that can be >> used to 2**48-1, or about 281 terabytes. Object IDs are effectively >> 64-bit integers (masquerading as 8-byte strings). [Andreas Jung] >

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 5 Oct 2005, at 20:57, Tim Peters wrote: [Jens Vagelpohl] Well, the question was actually "What is the maximum size of this file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb hold?". There is only a theoretical limit that has to do with the largest index key for the ZODB i

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Oktober 2005 15:57:14 -0400 Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Jens Vagelpohl] Well, the question was actually "What is the maximum size of this file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb hold?". There is only a theoretical limit that has to do with the l

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Tim Peters
[Jens Vagelpohl] > Well, the question was actually "What is the maximum size of this > file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb > hold?". There is only a theoretical limit that has to do with the > largest index key for the ZODB index I believe, and that is some > ludicr

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 5 Oct 2005, at 20:35, Matthew X. Economou wrote: There is no answer to this question because it cannot be answered. No one has come against a "limit" yet as far as I know. Hitting RAM limits depends on the settings you apply to the Zope/ZEO instance(s) that serve(s) the content and how much R

RE: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Matthew X. Economou
Jens wrote: > There is no answer to this question because it cannot be answered. > No one has come against a "limit" yet as far as I know. Hitting RAM > limits depends on the settings you apply to the Zope/ZEO instance(s) > that serve(s) the content and how much RAM you put in, you can > control Z

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
ZODB size What is the maximum size of this file and/or maximum object ID? => just how many objects can the zodb hold? millions? tens of millions..?? billions...??? I have a feeling we'll run out of ram long before actually hitting the limit but it'd be nice to know the theoretical top limit.

Re: [Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 5. Oktober 2005 17:37:08 +0100 Tom Wilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks, I've been using Zope for a while now and found it to be an excellent solution however I've got a few enterprise questions about the scalability of Zope that just need to be answered. [ nb: I'm using V2.72 at

[Zope] Zope Scalability

2005-10-05 Thread Tom Wilde
Hi folks, I've been using Zope for a while now and found it to be an excellent solution however I've got a few enterprise questions about the scalability of Zope that just need to be answered. [ nb: I'm using V2.72 at the moment, not having moved over to V3 ] ZODB size What is the maximum s

RE: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-22 Thread Andrew Sawyers
rnando Lujan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:35 PM > To: Andrew Sawyers; zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question > > On 9/20/05, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did some tests a few years b

Re: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-22 Thread Julien Anguenot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fernando Lujan wrote: > On 9/20/05, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I did some tests a few years back, basically that came out such that you run >>the number of zope instances as you have CPUs. I was able to get double the >>performance

Re: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-21 Thread Fernando Lujan
On 9/20/05, Andrew Sawyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did some tests a few years back, basically that came out such that you run > the number of zope instances as you have CPUs. I was able to get double the > performance of a single instance on a dual cpu server when adding a second > instance

RE: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-20 Thread Andrew Sawyers
er 20, 2005 1:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: zope@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question > > mark hellewell wrote: > > Hi everyone, I've got a question I'd really appreciate some input on. > > > > If I'm running perha

Re: [Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-20 Thread J Cameron Cooper
mark hellewell wrote: Hi everyone, I've got a question I'd really appreciate some input on. If I'm running perhaps a dozen Zope sites, experiencing anywhere between several hits per second to a lot less, would it potentially be more efficient (decreased latency etc.) to run each site as its own

[Zope] Zope scalability / efficiency question

2005-09-20 Thread mark hellewell
Hi everyone, I've got a question I'd really appreciate some input on. If I'm running perhaps a dozen Zope sites, experiencing anywhere between several hits per second to a lot less, would it potentially be more efficient (decreased latency etc.) to run each site as its own Zope instance or have on