RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Ron Bickers
Using Zope we knew that we would reach situations which may be unresolvable in the short term, and could not make significant business decisions with so many unknown factors and lack of any way to circumvent problems. What in the world does that mean?!? Maybe it should read "We don't know

RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Jonathan \(Listserv Account\)
Perhaps a typo? "vaporizes" fits pretty well there. My head has done that before while working with Zope. :-) Have you ever tried Java? If you love a vaporized head, switch to Java and be sure to pick Oracle's Internet Application Server to be your trustworthy companion on a steep learning

RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Max Møller Rasmussen
From: Ron Bickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Using Zope we knew that we would reach situations which may be unresolvable in the short term, and could not make significant business decisions with so many unknown factors and lack of any way to circumvent problems. What in the world does that

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Chris Withers
Max Mller Rasmussen wrote: Ie. if you have trouble understanding the security mechanism in Zope you are lost until you understand it. Not really, you can leave it like it is (where nearly everything is anonymously accessible) and build your own ;-) If you have trouble with the Enhydra

RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Max Møller Rasmussen
From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] problem. Zope is more closed in that regard. Well anyways when you know enough about Zope to make a hack, you probably also know how to do it the right way. Sadly, that's true, but changing I think... Oh don't misunderstand me. I am just about

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Michael Bernstein
Ron Bickers wrote: Using Zope we knew that we would reach situations which may be unresolvable in the short term, and could not make significant business decisions with so many unknown factors and lack of any way to circumvent problems. What in the world does that mean?!? Maybe it

RE: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Ron Bickers
However, for a programmer who had to come into the Zope environment 'cold', the problem would likely have seemed intractable. They wouldn't have even known where to look, How does Enhydra differ? Wouldn't the same problems be true for someone working with Enhydra that knows Zope/Python

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Itai Tavor
Tim Cook wrote: Paul Browning wrote: Maybe a North American reader could confirm that "valorizes" means what I think it means ;-) I suspect it is a mis-typed word for "vaporizes". Otherwise you get to choose: 1.To establish and maintain the price of (a commodity) by governmental

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Jason C. Leach
hi, To comment on this part. I suspect it's that way with any product. I can name plenty of producs Windows or Linux based that I have had to sit down at as a novice, then that pases and I get better at it. Zope, Linux, Windows 2000 (ADO) all have done that to me. j. ..

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Jason C. Leach
hi, Well. You can purchas support can you not? I mean that is how the company makes it's money right? Some companies charge for the product and give you some service, other give you the product and you purchas support. If you don't want to pay for a product or support they you get what is

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-17 Thread Michael Bernstein
Ron Bickers wrote: However, for a programmer who had to come into the Zope environment 'cold', the problem would likely have seemed intractable. They wouldn't have even known where to look, How does Enhydra differ? Wouldn't the same problems be true for someone working with Enhydra

Re: [Zope] Zope Versus Enhydra Comparison article

2001-01-16 Thread Tim Cook
Paul Browning wrote: Zope and Enhydra Comparison by Paul Gresham, CEO/CTO, MediaVisual ... The main reason behind using Enhydra on our most critical product to date, was that we knew we could do it with servlets, and that worst case, and given the structure of enhydra, we knew we could