Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-06-06 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
"Karl G. Ulbrich" cogently stated: > If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be > anything approaching what you want: IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages, > at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen, it serves messages > up to clients (one of which could be Zope, like Wor

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-31 Thread Karl G. Ulbrich
Quoting Stuart 'Zen' Bishop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): ... > you could expose an IMAP folder as Zope objects. You then never have > to worry about transporting them into Zope, as they will just magically > be available. I like this -- keep the mail store separate and you never have to worry if Zope can

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-31 Thread Stuart 'Zen' Bishop
On Wed, 31 May 2000, Steve Alexander wrote: > > If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be > > anything approaching what you want: IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages, > > at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen, it serves messages > > up to clients (one of which could

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-31 Thread Steve Alexander
"Karl G. Ulbrich" wrote: > > > > Yup, this sounds like mail-in content to me, which is what I'm after :-) > > If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be > anything approaching what you want: IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages, > at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-30 Thread Karl G. Ulbrich
> > Yup, this sounds like mail-in content to me, which is what I'm after :-) If the goal is mail-in content, I'm not sure I understand IMAP to be anything approaching what you want: IMAP doesn't ACCEPT messages, at least not any of the IMAP servers I've seen, it serves messages up to clients (on

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
Chris Withers wrote: > Which raises the question: What MTA would you use for a Zope IMAP server > and does it matter? Again, forgive me if that's a stupid question ;-) I would personally use exim, but I don't think it matters, if zope knows intelligent things about it's users. If you wanted to

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-29 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
Chris Withers wrote: > > mindlace wrote: > > I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" > > Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends? No, but see below... > > Making Zope an MTA seems like a lot of extra work. Now, Zope as an IMAP > > server I could get my head around... >

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-29 Thread Chris Withers
ethan mindlace fremen wrote: > An imap server stores the messages that have been recieved. An MTA > (Mail Transport Agent) goes about sending mail from one place to > another. If there were an IMAP server in zope, you could "recieve" the > mail as an object in zope, but it would still be deliver

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
mindlace wrote: > I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" Does MailHost do recieves as well as sends? > > My dream would be for Zope to pipe an email address to a specific > > object/method without the need for any external mail servers or > > scripts... > > Making Zope an

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-28 Thread Chris Withers
"Dan L. Pierson" wrote: > It has been noted a number of times that the current MailHost can and > should be replaced with one based on the standard smtplib module. A > patch is available somewhere and it's rumored to be in Zope 2.2. It is in 2.2 :-) > > My dream would be for Zope to pipe an em

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-26 Thread Rik Hoekstra
-Original Message- From: Karl Ulbrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: vrijdag 26 mei 2000 21:49 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) >> Well... I think that it's probably the shortest route to a functioning >>

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-26 Thread Karl Ulbrich
> Well... I think that it's probably the shortest route to a functioning > zope archive to use mailman- already written in python, and modular > enough that we should be able to take it one step at a time. In browsing the MailMan lists, I recall reading about someone setting up an archiver scri

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread mindlace
Chris Withers wrote: > Check out: > http://www.zope.org/Members/mindlace/MailZopeMan > > I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email > integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things. I don't quite see why MailHost isn't "low level integration" > My dream

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Chris Withers writes: > I like these ideas a lot, but I'd prefer to see the low-level email > integration done seperately, so it can be used for other things. What do you mean by low-level email integration? If you mean actual SMTP server stuff, I think this is a bad idea for two reasons: perf

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
"Dan L. Pierson" wrote: > The perfect solution involves a mailing list server integrated with > Zope, e.g. ZMailman. This would probably also provide mailing list > archives integrated with Zope and ZCatalog and easy integration of > mailing list and PTK/Squishdot discussion traffic. This has be

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Dan L. Pierson
Kevin Dangoor writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kevin Dangoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Dangoor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication) > I th

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Chris Withers
Kevin Dangoor wrote: > I hadn't seen this one before. Since Zope is getting a Membership component, > I think we'll need a good, solid way to send great big bunches of email to > Members. I'm not sure if you've thought about this aspect or not. I believe > it is a different function with different

Re: [Zope] Zope Email (syndication)

2000-05-25 Thread Kevin Dangoor
- Original Message - From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Zope Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Zope] syndication?? > http://www.zope.org/Members/chrisw/ZopeEmail/FrontPage I hadn't seen t