[Zope-CMF] CMF Tests: 9 OK

2008-09-23 Thread CMF Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the cmf-tests list.
Period Mon Sep 22 11:00:00 2008 UTC to Tue Sep 23 11:00:00 2008 UTC.
There were 9 messages: 9 from CMF Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : CMF-1.6 Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:27:27 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009947.html

Subject: OK : CMF-1.6 Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:28:59 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009948.html

Subject: OK : CMF-2.0 Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:30:29 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009949.html

Subject: OK : CMF-2.0 Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:31:59 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009950.html

Subject: OK : CMF-2.1 Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:33:29 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009951.html

Subject: OK : CMF-2.1 Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:34:59 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009952.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:36:29 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009953.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:37:59 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009954.html

Subject: OK : CMF-trunk Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: CMF Tests
Date: Mon Sep 22 21:39:29 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/cmf-tests/2008-September/009955.html

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[Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Currently CMFCore and zope.dublincore duplicate some of the DC
interfaces. zope.dublincore even has an ICMFDublinCore interface
explicitly dublicing CMFCore's version.

Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
where possible?

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Sep 23, 2008, at 17:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Currently CMFCore and zope.dublincore duplicate some of the DC
> interfaces. zope.dublincore even has an ICMFDublinCore interface
> explicitly dublicing CMFCore's version.
>
> Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
> classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
> where possible?

Do you see any specific benefit, more than just "replace our code with  
other code to shift the maintenance burden"?

jens



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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Tres Seaver
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Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> Currently CMFCore and zope.dublincore duplicate some of the DC
> interfaces. zope.dublincore even has an ICMFDublinCore interface
> explicitly dublicing CMFCore's version.
> 
> Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
> classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
> where possible?

- -0 unless we come up with convincing evidence that the Z3 version is
actually being maintained by somebody who cares about it:  Actually,
after looking at it, -1 unless it is getting some love *and* we can
avoid entangling ourselves with its policy-laden configure.zcml.


Tres.
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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Sep 23, 2008, at 18:09 , Tres Seaver wrote:

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> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>> Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
>> classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
>> where possible?
>
> - -0 unless we come up with convincing evidence that the Z3 version is
> actually being maintained by somebody who cares about it:  Actually,
> after looking at it, -1 unless it is getting some love *and* we can
> avoid entangling ourselves with its policy-laden configure.zcml.

The zope.dublincore code hasn't seen any maintenance since being  
"exploded" out into a separate egg, this is true. In all fairness, the  
DublinCore module in CMFDefault hasn't seen many changes that are  
specifically Dublin Core-related, either, but then again it hasn't  
needed much. It's been working very well with very little maintenance.  
"Don't fix it if it ain't broke" and keep what we have is what I'd say  
here.

jens


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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2008, at 17:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> 
> > Currently CMFCore and zope.dublincore duplicate some of the DC
> > interfaces. zope.dublincore even has an ICMFDublinCore interface
> > explicitly dublicing CMFCore's version.
> >
> > Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
> > classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
> > where possible?
> 
> Do you see any specific benefit, more than just "replace our code with  
> other code to shift the maintenance burden"?

I found myself writing some code which needs to get dublin core data from
content and should work for both zope3 and zope2 applications, except
for the difference in interfaces.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On Sep 23, 2008, at 19:19 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:

> Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
>> On Sep 23, 2008, at 17:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>
>>> Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
>>> classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
>>> where possible?
>>
>> Do you see any specific benefit, more than just "replace our code  
>> with
>> other code to shift the maintenance burden"?
>
> I found myself writing some code which needs to get dublin core data  
> from
> content and should work for both zope3 and zope2 applications, except
> for the difference in interfaces.

As you already found, the ICMFDublinCore should be supported by both,  
right?

jens


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Re: [Zope-CMF] using zope.dublincore in CMFCore

2008-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
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> On Sep 23, 2008, at 19:19 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> 
> > Previously Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
> >> On Sep 23, 2008, at 17:01 , Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Are there any objections to making the CMFCore interfaces derived
> >>> classes from zope.dublincore, or possibly even using those directly
> >>> where possible?
> >>
> >> Do you see any specific benefit, more than just "replace our code  
> >> with
> >> other code to shift the maintenance burden"?
> >
> > I found myself writing some code which needs to get dublin core data  
> > from
> > content and should work for both zope3 and zope2 applications, except
> > for the difference in interfaces.
> 
> As you already found, the ICMFDublinCore should be supported by both,  
> right?

Except for the fact that no CMF (or AT) content type uses the
zope.dublincore variant? ICMFDublinCore is also much more than I'm
interested in - IDCTimes is all I need.

Wichert.

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Re: [Zope-CMF] [dev] 'add' actions and views - a proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Martin Aspeli
yuppie wrote:
> Martin Aspeli wrote:
>> Wichert Akkerman wrote:
>>> Why not a ++add++ traverser? Aren't traversed supposed to be used for
>>> that kind of thing? Or does a view gives us something here that a
>>> traverser doesn't?
>> Namespace traversal adapters are similar to IPublishTraverse solutions. 
>> The difference is that the namespace traversal adapter normally returns 
>> something "containerish" from which traversal continues. I think it's 
>> intended mostly as a "redirect" to a different traversal namespace, e.g. 
>> in the way that plone.app.portlets has namespaces for portlet managers.
> 
> I don't think a containerish return value is characteristic for 
> namespace adapters. For example the ++view++ traverser usually doesn't 
> return something containerish.
> 
> I now implemented an ++add++ traverser in my sandbox and it seems to 
> work fine.

Cool. :) Let us know when it's checked in, I'd love to have a look at it!

Cheers,
Martin

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