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From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jay, Dylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Fishbowl not problem centered enough
> > I just see lots of solutions many of which attack some of the
Hi Simon,
Yes, the CMFWiki product does this... it's fairly simple code that I
think could be lifted directly from the product. I think CMFWiki comes
with the CVS checkout of the CMF now...
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Simon Michael wrote:
>
> I think I read someone had integrated the sample zwiki web(s) into the
> p
I think I read someone had integrated the sample zwiki web(s) into the
python product, removing the need for the import which causes great
confusion. If you know anything about this, please get in touch.
Thanks -Simon
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Jan-Oliver Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am not sure what you want to express with your statement.
that I now see we were in agreement. Sorry for the confusion.
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> I do not agree with you:
>
> a ZClass is both an instance (you can manage, modify, delete)
> and a class (you can use as blueprint for object creation).
O.k., I CAN manage/modify/delete a ZClass, but it still is (conceptually) a
class, and only a class. You can manage/modify/delete Zope P
What should I return to for a method that create a new object or modify the
object?
If I return a redirection, will it too restricted for web only? If I return
a simple ok, it seems very stupid.
Rgs,
Kent Sin
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kentsin.weblogs.com
kentsin.imeme.net
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Hi Mark,
Try to use the Python that ships with the Zope instance in
ZopeWebSite/bin/python instead of the 2.1 version you're trying to use.
There are link-level incompatibilities that you're seeing.
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Mark McEahern wrote:
>
> Summary: Hi, I'm a newbie Zope developer. I'm trying to use a
Summary: Hi, I'm a newbie Zope developer. I'm trying to use a fairly
simple class from the Python interpreter (see below). It's not working
(specific error message listed below). I've traced the problem to
ExtensionClass. I'm not sure that I'm correct about that and I'm really
looking for any
Joachim Werner writes:
> > Is there any good reason why a Product inside the ControlPanel is the only
> > place a ZClass can exist? Why can't I have one in any folder?
>
> I think it is perfectly logical that ZClasses are located in the Products
> area. A folder is for instances of classes,
John Eikenberry writes:
> Note: I'm still using Zope 2.2.5, which is why I'm forced to use
> __ac_permissions__ and not the new security code in 2.3.x.
>
> In the documentation I've found on how __ac_permissions__ works you are
> supposed to be able to set default roles for a permission in a
"Morten W. Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> """ Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:43:05 -0600 (MDT) From: Richard Stallman
> If the latter, then in general, you can't take someone's GPL-covered
> code and combine it with Zope, because the Zope license is
> GPL-incompatible.
>
> If someone wrote
On 22 Jun 2001, Simon Michael wrote:
> Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> One of the consequences being that someone re-distributing zope &
> >> zwiki together, under their default licenses, is technically in
> >> violation right now, I think we are all agreeing.
> >
> > Technically
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:16:04PM -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> I think you're right. The reaction to the Python license becoming GPL
> compatible wasn't as enthusiastic as I expected, though.
Are you talking about the reactions on Slashdot.org? The reactions there
were exactly as to be expec
Now you're talking. Seconded.
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Dear Digital Creations,
Thank you for providing Zope. Please consider releasing it under the
GPL.
As a non-profit organization that is recruiting and training volunteers
to develop code for our web site that runs on Zope, the license
uncertainty is wasting our time and may force us to abandon
Simon Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, I'm guessing there was a shout of joy around the world - it made
> my day. I think many of us then said "well thank god for some sanity"
PS, and in case that wasn't clear -
I want to say a BIG THANK YOU to all who put so much hard work into
solv
Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> One of the consequences being that someone re-distributing zope &
>> zwiki together, under their default licenses, is technically in
>> violation right now, I think we are all agreeing.
>
> Technically yes, although I like to think that the product de
On Friday 22 June 2001 12:33, Simon Michael wrote:
> Thanks for a most illuminating thread. Slight clarification to a
> comment of yours Shane -
>
> Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > GPL code together. ZWiki is just in a strange position because the
> > GPL is not actually in effect.
On Friday 22 June 2001 10:59, Chris Withers wrote:
> Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > If we're willing to start changing things at the C level, however,
> > there are more options.
>
> Well, given how extremely useful skins seem as a concept (rather than
> just in their CMF context), along with Transpare
On 22 Jun 2001 09:33:22 -0700, Simon Michael wrote:
> Thanks for a most illuminating thread. Slight clarification to a
> comment of yours Shane -
>
> Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > GPL code together. ZWiki is just in a strange position because the
> > GPL is not actually in effec
Thanks for a most illuminating thread. Slight clarification to a
comment of yours Shane -
Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> GPL code together. ZWiki is just in a strange position because the
> GPL is not actually in effect.
I'm not sure I'd use those words - the license is certainly
A new release of Transparent folders is ready. The only real difference
is compatibility with Zope 2.3.3.
http://www.zope.org/Members/hathawsh/TransparentFolders
CookieCrumbler has been re-released independently of CMF. Thanks to
living in the CMF for a while, the security hole has been fixe
I think bsddb3 only accept string not unicode string.
rgs,
Kent Sin
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Shane Hathaway wrote:
> If we're willing to start changing things at the C level, however, there
> are more options.
Is this an effort that would ultimately move Transparent Folders into the
Zope "Core" ???
Eric
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Shane Hathaway wrote:
>
> If we're willing to start changing things at the C level, however, there
> are more options.
Well, given how extremely useful skins seem as a concept (rather than just in
their CMF context), along with Transparent Folders I'd love to help out here or
vote for this in an
On 22 Jun 2001 10:29:19 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> On Friday 22 June 2001 04:24, Erik Enge wrote:
> > I'd love to lobby DC to start thinking about this, how do I get in
> > touch with the management team? It would be great if we could discuss
> > this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or similar) and hav
On Friday 22 June 2001 06:55, Eric Roby wrote:
> > I'm glad to know the product is being used. I don't think it will be
> > in the core distribution since it causes a performance hit.
> >
> I use Transparent Folders "HEAVILY" in my site designs. There are some
> "Gotchas' that I have learned to
On Friday 22 June 2001 04:24, Erik Enge wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> > Now, if the ZPL were GPL compatible, the GPL would be in full effect
> > for products. Digital Creations would automatically have the rights
> > to redistribute derivatives of ZWiki. I believe DC woul
> > I think it would be helpful to have a "big picture", with goals and
> > objectives, into which to fit the pieces - would that address
> > the kinds of
> > things you're talking about?
>
> "big picture" is good but its not what I mean.
> What I mean is a list like this...
These are all goo
> I just see lots of solutions many of which attack some of the same
problems
> and no clear way to get those people comunicating and making informed
> trade-offs
I think this is a really good point.
However, I think the fishbowl should remain the center for solutions.
The collector is the cent
Shane,
> I'm glad to know the product is being used. I don't think it will be in
> the core distribution since it causes a performance hit.
>
> Shane
I use Transparent Folders "HEAVILY" in my site designs. There are some
"Gotchas' that I have learned to deal with regards to acquisition, but I
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
> Ok, good. Then Thingamy's intermediate solution will be to create a TPL
> which is basically the ZPL with the incompatible-clauses ripped out
> (number 4 and 7, I think). That way we are compatible with both the ZPL
> and the GPL.
Something like that. V
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Morten W. Petersen wrote:
> Yes, you can distribute a GPL-compatible licensed code with GPL
> licensed code without licencing the former under GPL. Take a look in
> the Linux-kernel source tree for example.
Ok, good. Then Thingamy's intermediate solution will be to create
"Randall F. Kern" wrote:
>
> 2. Will the BDB storage be standard with 2.4? Transactional Undo sounds
> _very_ nice.
IIRC, Transactional Undo has now been implemented in FileStorage too
cheers,
Chris
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Erik Enge wrote:
> Now I think I have two different answers to one of my fundamental
> questions in this discussion: if I have a GPL-compatible licensed product
> and I distribute it with a GPL product, do I need to relicense the former
> one to GPL? Because that is what I u
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote:
> Now, if the ZPL were GPL compatible, the GPL would be in full effect
> for products. Digital Creations would automatically have the rights
> to redistribute derivatives of ZWiki. I believe DC would even be able
> to distribute ZWiki with Zope as long
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