Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-03 Thread Dieter Maurer
Martijn Faassen wrote at 2005-2-2 19:09 +0100: ... What other use cases are floating around? The CMF user group would like to use Zope3's events and subscriptions to make creation, deletion and modification interception more flexible. Me, too, I am very interested in object

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-03 Thread Martijn Faassen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Martijn Faassen wrote at 2005-2-2 19:09 +0100: ... What other use cases are floating around? The CMF user group would like to use Zope3's events and subscriptions to make creation, deletion and modification interception more flexible. Yes, those are definitely useful. I mean,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Heimes wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Originally, I had intended not to include any Zope 3 packages until Zope 2.9, however, Zope 2.8 has been delayed long enough that I think it makes sense to include some parts of Zope 3 sooner. I also want to use some of the Zope 3 persistent code support,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
Christian Heimes wrote: Zope 2.8 should be shipped with all stuff required for Five + some nice gimmicks like the import* helpers from utilities/. Here are the modules currently directly imported by Five. I'm not counting the things that these modules in turn import: zope.app

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Jim Fulton
Would it make sense to have Zope 2.8 include all of the packages below other than zope.app and for Five to supply it's own zope.app? Jim P.S. We definately want zope.testing too. I'm surprised that Five isn't using it. Lennart Regebro wrote: Christian Heimes wrote: Zope 2.8 should be shipped

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
Jim Fulton wrote: P.S. We definately want zope.testing too. I'm surprised that Five isn't using it. Well, I didn't grep the tests directory. ;) I'm leaning more towards realeasing 2,8 now, and skipping this renaming thing alltogether. But then, I don't know your reason for wanting to do it

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Jim Fulton
Lennart Regebro wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: P.S. We definately want zope.testing too. I'm surprised that Five isn't using it. Well, I didn't grep the tests directory. ;) I'm leaning more towards realeasing 2,8 now, and skipping this renaming thing alltogether. But then, I don't know your

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Would it make sense to have Zope 2.8 include all of the packages below other than zope.app and for Five to supply it's own zope.app? It would make life harder for Five, and create more work for us, as we'd have to worry about: * shipping a zope.app ourselves (does it contain

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Martijn Faassen
Jim Fulton wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: [snip] I'm leaning more towards realeasing 2,8 now, and skipping this renaming thing alltogether. But then, I don't know your reason for wanting to do it in Zope 2.8, which I expect is a really good one (it usually is). I want zope.interface and

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
Martijn Faassen wrote: Anyway, more work for Five developers doesn't mean this shouldn't happen, but perhaps a review of the use cases driving this would be helpful. If it's really only about making ZClasses work in Zope 2.8, is this really the only way forward? If not, I'd prefer to stick to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-02 Thread Andreas Jung
--On Mittwoch, 2. Februar 2005 19:28 Uhr +0100 Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. Get Zope 2.8 out now and then we can work on the Z3 integration in 2.9, preferrably merging Five into 2.9 completely. That integration should be rather easy, as Five is already in a workable state,

[Zope-dev] Re: Renamed the Zope package to Zope2 and including Zope 3 packages in Zope 2.8

2005-02-01 Thread Christian Heimes
Jim Fulton wrote: Originally, I had intended not to include any Zope 3 packages until Zope 2.9, however, Zope 2.8 has been delayed long enough that I think it makes sense to include some parts of Zope 3 sooner. I also want to use some of the Zope 3 persistent code support, which depends on