Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using the facilities supplied setuptools. Agreed, If we want people

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find setup.py test to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware command; the tests_require dependencies then become

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Fred Drake
On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: $ /path/to/python setup.py develop $ /path/to/python

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Chris McDonough
On Nov 15, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Dieter Maurer wrote: Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: ... Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests should also be required by install. This is in accordance

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2007-11-15 10:28 -0500: ... Agreed. I'll note that there is a school of thought that I proposed but am somewhat ambivalent about that anything required by tests should also be required by install. This is in accordance with fly what you test, test what you fly. To the

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Fred Drake wrote: On Nov 15, 2007 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Making sure that the tests can psss for somebody who is not a core Zope developer, (and therefore who doesn't know about zc.buildout, or want to). E.g.: $ /path/to/python setup.py

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 10:52 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Gr. I find setup.py test to be really annoying as it requires meta data that is available only to that command. Not after running 'egg_info', or any other setuptools-aware

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tres Seaver wrote: ... Chris is not advocating switching away from zc.buildout for the *development* of the packages; he is arguing that we can't force people who *use* the packages to stop using

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tres Seaver wrote: You are correct: I was misled by the presence of the section for the 'tests' extra. Attached find a patch against the setuptools-0.6 branch which addes a 'tests_require.txt' file entry point. I will propose that the patch be

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout tests_require analogue

2007-11-15 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Baiju M wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Is there an equivalent for tests_require in buildout.cfg/zc.recipe.testrunner? The reason I ask is this... currently the zope.18n distribution has an install_requires that looks something like this: