I'm just curious, with Twisted in place, how much other work would have
to be done to run Zope in a Java application server? Just hypothetical.
Would the persistency and pickling stuff work in Jython?
Regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Itamar Shtull-Trauring [mailto:[EMAIL
Phillip J. Eby writes:
>
>Perhaps I'm confused, but I have an old (>3 months) version of Cygwin, but
>when I installed the Win32 Python 2.1.1 release, I was able to build
>extension modules just fine using distutils, after I built an import
>library. You shouldn't need VC++ to build Zope extensio
It's probably me that's confused :)
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:19:04 -0500
"Phillip J. Eby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps I'm confused, but I have an old (>3 months) version of Cygwin, but
> when I installed the Win32 Python 2.1.1 release, I was able to build
> extension modules just fine
Perhaps I'm confused, but I have an old (>3 months) version of Cygwin, but
when I installed the Win32 Python 2.1.1 release, I was able to build
extension modules just fine using distutils, after I built an import
library. You shouldn't need VC++ to build Zope extensions, just distutils
and gc
At 08:00 AM 10/10/01 -0700, kapil thangavelu wrote:
>sadly the distinction between zpublisher and zserver is nowhere near as
>clean, i spent some time looking at it this morning trying to get my server
>of choice using zope. i thought it would be a mid morning hack, but the rabit
>hole follows th
Richard Jones wrote:
> I'd like to run python in its optimised mode (to try to squeeze that extra
> 1-5% of performance out of it ;). The only real barrier to doing this is that
> install_product doesn't check for __init__.pyo (just .py and .pyc).
>
> Would there be serious problems if it was
This is a question for those that understand where the component model and
webservices are headed with zope. I'm asking since I'm trying to understand
the direction zope is headed
I just had to let someone access some RDBS data easily. Its already used in
zope so I figured the easiest way was xml
I'm using ZPT in a Python Product. PageTemplateFile works fine, using it
more-or-less as a drop-in replacement for DTMLFile.
However, I want to use METAL with this. Simple macros that work on page
templates created in the ZODB fail to work from filesystem python products.
The error I'm getting
I had a brief conversation with the Cygwin Python maintainer a little while back,
supposedly the next release of Cygwin will have a threaded Python (2.1.1 or maybe even
higher).
Phil
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:17:22 -0400
"Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > FYI
> > I finally have a C
On Wednesday 10 October 2001 08:09 am, Michel Pelletier wrote:
>
> Just to throw out another idea, Amos has discussed with me in the past the
> idea of replacing medusa with Apache 2.0. Compelling as many of Twisted's
> features may be, Apache 2.0 as far as i can tell supports many of them as
> w
> No I forgot to mention that this is with a locally compiled Python
> that hasn't had threading disabled.
Oh ok... when possible I will give it a roll and I'll try to document the
problems I have so we can compare notes.
Thanks!
- C
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On Wednesday 10 October 2001 04:41 am, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote:
> Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> > this sounds good for me. One would have to see it
> > in the wild. Would you be able to do a sample integration
> > for testing?
>
> It's not that I actually have the time for it, nor do I have enough
On Wednesday 10 October 2001 07:49 am, Michel Pelletier wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:12:24 +0200
>
> Itamar Shtull-Trauring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) Medusa is working *now*. This is of course the main reason why not to
> > switch. I dunno how deeply integrated Zope is with ZServer.
>
Running Zope on Windows is quite convenient for developing and debugging
portable Python extensions to run on the server.
It's straightforward to run Zope under Visual C++, in order put breakpoints
in Python extensions, single step through the code and catch errors.
Not to start any religious argu
> > How about Tux? Would that even make sense?
>
> Nope, TUX is linux-only.
I think the point is to make an easily changeable front end that allows
ZServer to be easily replaced with server x. Be it Tux or IIS or YAWS (Yet
Another Web Server).
Cheers.
--
Andy McKay.
On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 10:47, Andreas Jung wrote:
>
> From: "Michael R. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 09:42, Andy McKay wrote:
> > >
> > > Absolutely it may be more work but being able to eventually plug in your
> > > own
> > > front end would be great, be it ZServer
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From: "Michael R. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Andy McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 13:47
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted
> On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 09:42, Andy McKay wro
On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 09:42, Andy McKay wrote:
> > I think a general proposal for "Pluggable front-ends" would be better
> > received. I know there has been talk about dropping ZServer in favor of
> > Apache 2.0. What would be nice would be to have options.
>
> Absolutely it may be more work but
> > Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular
> platform for Zope
>
> Actually I think win32 is in the minority. A poll on ZopeZen (totally
> unscientific) showed about 60% run on Linux.
Our server logs always show win32 binary downloads as far and away the
winner. That doesn't m
Chris McDonough writes:
>
>> FYI
>> I finally have a Cygwin compiled Zope running in a Cygwin enviroment.
>> This is with the very latest Cygwin distribution augmented by a locally
>> compiled Cygwin as represented by the current Cygwin CVS files.
>
>Cool! This is excellent. This means that I st
> FYI
> I finally have a Cygwin compiled Zope running in a Cygwin enviroment.
> This is with the very latest Cygwin distribution augmented by a locally
> compiled Cygwin as represented by the current Cygwin CVS files.
Cool! This is excellent. This means that I stand a shot at getting rid of
200
> I think a general proposal for "Pluggable front-ends" would be better
> received. I know there has been talk about dropping ZServer in favor of
> Apache 2.0. What would be nice would be to have options.
Absolutely it may be more work but being able to eventually plug in your own
front end would
On Wednesday 10 October 2001 10:49 am, Michel Pelletier allegedly wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:12:24 +0200
>
> Itamar Shtull-Trauring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) Medusa is working *now*. This is of course the main reason why not to
> > switch. I dunno how deeply integrated Zope is with Z
Michel Pelletier writes:
>>
>Whether or not it is the most popular, who knows? Windows
>support is absolutely essential however and will never be
>traded off for any other feature.
FYI
I finally have a Cygwin compiled Zope running in a Cygwin enviroment.
This is with the very latest Cygwin dis
On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 06:17, seb bacon wrote:
> * Phil Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011010 15:25]:
> > Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
> > (I'm including experimenters here though, not just production sites).
>
> Last time I looked at the zope.org download
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:05:06 +0200
Itamar Shtull-Trauring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) Plugging in a different transports instead of TCP (e.g. SSL) is much
> easier in Twisted than medusa, as far as I can tell. In m2crypto's medusa
> ssl code very protocol needs its own subclass in order supp
Donovan> ZServer grew out of Medusa I'm not sure how tightly tied to
Donovan> Zope it is
>>
>> Not tightly at all. I use it completely independent of Zope.
Donovan> Hmm, what for? How? What are you serving out of?
I still do Zope-y sorts of things: serve files, exe
Hello!
I have a serious problem with Zope. We repeatedly get the following kind of
errors:
2001-09-05T13:45:12 ERROR(200) ZServer uncaptured python exception, closing
channel (
socket.error:(32, 'Broken pipe')
[/usr/local/zope/dist/Zope-2.4.1/ZServer/medusa/asynchat.py|initiate_send|21
4] [/usr
I'm trying to get selective with the cross-posting based on what the thread
is focusing on...
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 08:48:37AM -0500, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>
>
> Donovan> ZServer grew out of Medusa I'm not sure how tightly tied to
> Donovan> Zope it is
>
> Not tightly at all.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:25:09 +0100
"Phil Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But kosh, we all know your hatred of all things Microsoft.
>
> You're absolutely right, it could be fixed, and probably should be as well.
>
> Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:12:24 +0200
Itamar Shtull-Trauring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) Medusa is working *now*. This is of course the main reason why not to
> switch. I dunno how deeply integrated Zope is with ZServer.
ZServer and the Zope application interface through a pretty clean bound
> Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
Actually I think win32 is in the minority. A poll on ZopeZen (totally
unscientific) showed about 60% run on Linux.
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From: "Phil Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Chris W
Andreas Jung wrote:
> The Medusa architecture is also more or less generic and extendable.
1) I've talked to at least one person who had trouble integrating an
external protocol into Zope, and ended up running it as a seperate process
and communicating over XML-RPC.
2) Plugging in a different
Donovan> ZServer grew out of Medusa I'm not sure how tightly tied to
Donovan> Zope it is
Not tightly at all. I use it completely independent of Zope.
Donovan> My problem with Medusa is its http and ftp servers assume that
Donovan> the VFS can deliver files wrapped in p
seb bacon wrote:
>>Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
>>(I'm including experimenters here though, not just production sites).
>>
>
> Last time I looked at the zope.org download stats, it was about 2/3
> windows downloads...
Keep in mind that Zope comes pr
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From: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 06:11
Subject: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted
> Actually, this brings up this idea I had - Zope should replace medusa with
> Twist
Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> this sounds good for me. One would have to see it
> in the wild. Would you be able to do a sample integration
> for testing?
>
It's not that I actually have the time for it, nor do I have enough
knowledge of Zope's medusa integration. I was rather hoping someone from D
* Phil Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011010 15:25]:
> Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
> (I'm including experimenters here though, not just production sites).
Last time I looked at the zope.org download stats, it was about 2/3
windows downloads...
seb
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Phil Harris wrote:
> But kosh, we all know your hatred of all things Microsoft.
>
How did you ever guess? Hmm my prejudices must be showing through again.
;)
> You're absolutely right, it could be fixed, and probably should be as well.
>
My guess is that it will be also. I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Any ideas what the performance would be compared to medusa?
Nope. However, it is pretty fast, and Zope is slow anyway, since it's so
dynamic.
>>4) Good integration with threads - while event based, twisted has a very
>>nice model for dealing with threaded apps.
>>
>
But kosh, we all know your hatred of all things Microsoft.
You're absolutely right, it could be fixed, and probably should be as well.
Thing is that from what I see win32 is the most popular platform for Zope
(I'm including experimenters here though, not just production sites).
Anyone from ZC wa
Not for me, get all sorts of socket errors
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From: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted
> Phil Harris wrote:
>
> > I'd s
but, I'm just about to try 0.11, so my opinion may change.
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From: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal: Replace medusa with Twisted
> Phil Harris wro
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Phil Harris wrote:
> I'd say the fact that it doesn't work on Win32 is a bit of a downer.
>
Just a bit but overall I expect that could be changed if it where really
important. From what I have seen under high load and python program will
kill windows after a few days with som
Phil Harris wrote:
> I'd say the fact that it doesn't work on Win32 is a bit of a downer.
Last I checked twisted ran fine on win32.
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I'd say the fact that it doesn't work on Win32 is a bit of a downer.
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From: "Chris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Itamar Shtull-Trauring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A modest proposal
Hi Itamar,
this sounds good for me. One would have to see it
in the wild. Would you be able to do a sample integration
for testing?
At the same time unmeshing the publishing process sounds
sexy to me...
Regards
Tino
--On Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2001 12:11 +0200 Itamar Shtull-Trauring
<[EMAIL PR
Chris Withers wrote:
> Well, you're advocating this, so it's fair to paint a rosy picture.
And I'm a Twisted developer, so I'm even more biased :) Though the overall
design was not done by me, and was what convinced me to use it in the first
place.
> Can anyone see what the downsides would be
Designing the webpages of tomorrow http://webme-eng.com
Designing the MMORPGS of tomorrow http://worldforge.org
On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote:
> Actually, this brings up this idea I had - Zope should replace medusa with
> Twisted. Why, you ask?
>
Any ideas what the performa
Oops, forgot the URL: http://www.twistedmatrix.com/
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Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote:
>
> Actually, this brings up this idea I had - Zope should replace medusa with
> Twisted.
Well, you're advocating this, so it's fair to paint a rosy picture.
Can anyone see what the downsides would be?
In any case, it does look cool. Perhaps a fishbowl proposal wou
Actually, this brings up this idea I had - Zope should replace medusa with
Twisted. Why, you ask?
1) Twisted separates transport from protocols, and the event loop it uses is
extendable and generic. That means:
- It can run on Jython (using threads, someday with java.nio), and it can
be
On Tuesday 09 October 2001 10:48 pm, Donovan Baarda wrote:
> G'day,
>
> First my impressions of the three contenders; Twisted, Medusa, ZServer.
> Please correct me if I'm wrong in the following summaries;
>
> Medusa seems to be the daddy of them all. It's the oldest, which has
> benefits and probl
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