[Zope-dev] How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?

Hello, it looks as if some people are missing a nice Zope IDE. So I would like to have your oppinions on what an ideal Zope IDE should look like and what technologies it should be built on. Regards, Martin ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL

Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?

From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not believe you. But I believe him. :-) If Zope has a steep lurning curve, that's nothing compared with CMF. There are many good things with CMF, the actions are a good idea, DCWorkflow of course, and some more. But portal_skins are a

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: When should one call Connection.sync?

Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Syver Enstad wrote at 2004-4-21 18:03 +0200: I have done some experiments with this scheme and I find that everything gets unloaded when do a connection.close() or connection.sync() so that performance takes quite a hit. Maybe, the connection cache

Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?

Lennart Regebro wrote: From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not believe you. But I believe him. :-) Adding more framework code to a project as large as Zope already is, is adding complexity. It might help you get your project done faster, because the new tools are better suited to

Re: [Zope-dev] [Q] Pickle support for C wrapper and ZEO

Hello Dieter, thanks for your answer. Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean ZEO client instances not ZEO (server) instances, don't you? Exactly, sorry for having been ambiguous. Why do you think your ODBC objects should be consistent across ZEO clients? I do not think that it

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope3, CMS, IDEs

Joachim Werner wrote: I've proposed that a couple of times already. There are two problems in real life: 1) Somebody has to take care of managing the project. 2) If politics take over, things will quickly fall apart. I agree. I hope that Heimo Paul's session at EP will help work through

Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 10:57:18AM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: | A lot of the things that are CMF should have been put into Zope core. | DCWorkflow should have been there. acl_user folder should have been extended | with property management and other member management instead of shimming | tools

[Zope-dev] RE: Zope Book development moved

I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that Zope.org is just not going to cut it to do Zope Book development work due to its speed (or lack thereof). I'd like to help fix the Zope.org slowness problem, but I'm a little unclear about what's required for me to get the level of access

[Zope-dev] RE: Zope Book development moved

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 13:21, Brian Lloyd wrote: BTW, once Shane is safely settled out west we plan to engage him to fix a number of the ills of zope.org, so I expect we'll see a marked improvement in the near future. OK, in the meantime if we wanted to organize a (one-day) Zope.org sprint I

[Zope-dev] New mailing list for ZConfig users

At a suggestion from the community, I've created a new mailing list for ZConfig users. This is for general discussion and questions. The list is run using Mailman at Zope.org; you can sign up at http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zconfig/ -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. fred at

Re: [Zope-dev] [Q] Pickle support for C wrapper and ZEO

Ames Andreas (MPA/DF) wrote at 2004-4-23 13:13 +0200: ... Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You mean ZEO client instances not ZEO (server) instances, don't you? Exactly, sorry for having been ambiguous. Why do you think your ODBC objects should be consistent across ZEO clients? I do

Re: [Zope-dev] The bleak Future of Zope?

Lennart Regebro wrote at 2004-4-23 10:57 +0200: From: Dieter Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I do not believe you. But I believe him. :-) If Zope has a steep lurning curve, that's nothing compared with CMF. Usually, I am able to explain CMF to my colleagues in something like a few hours (I do this

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: zLOG changes

Fred Drake wrote at 2004-4-22 17:15 -0400: I wrote: - In debug mode, add a new handler that dumps to standard output. This is fairly easy to code, but is inflexible. Andreas responded: But flexible enough for most usecase. The point is that you want to see the tracebacks on the console

Re: [Zope-dev] How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?

So, I give it a try and submit a wish list for an ideal IDE for Python/Zope. Maybe some words about the IDEs I have been working with, so you can track where the features I wish to have come from: I used CodeWarrior, NetBeans, jEdit for both Java and Python/Zope, Boa Constructor and Eclipse

Re: [Zope-dev] How should an ideal Zope IDE look like?

Nice wishlist. About 3-4 man years worth of coding, 2 min is my guess. My goal is not quite so ambitious. I wanted to learn Eclipse well. I was always jelaous of Emacs guys that could whip up a mode for their favorite lanuguage. Implementing a Python IDE sounded like a good starter project.