Re: [Zope-dev] Installer for Windows (quick question)
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Since I saw this, I've changed the default directory to Program Files\Zope\2.9.5. Bleugh. I hate Program Files :-( There will be two sub-directories here, 'Zope' and 'Python'. This is so Python is not buried inside a 'bin' directory. yay :-) What would be a good default for instance? I thought of \Zope\Instance\Version or maybe even \Zope\Version. Shouldn't affect you since you seem to not use the default anyway. Honestly, loose the version from that completely. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who moves intances from version to version as new versions are released ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
It´s very nice to hear that you take care of the windows builds. It would be nice to get an little description how to build an WZope, which tools are needed. So we can take a look how difficult it is to build an WZope. My windows zope configuration would be c:\zope\version\instance some applications use tinytables which is not supported in new zope versions. So my solution is in thinking of versions, not in instances. I dont like the program folder (in germany called Programme) because on an Windows Server there is not so much services on the computer - so an exclusive c:\zope is the best ;) I dont need an service installer but i know many windows administrators that would ask me - why did this product doesnt run as service stupid open source software or somethink like that ... i like the zope window on the desktop, nice debugging ;) greetings many thanks for taking care of the windows builds, christian ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
Hi Christian(s)! I know most people dislike Program Files. I do too! But it's the closest we have to a 'standard' place for installing applications. As bad as it is, I too don't like Documents and Settings\username, but that's the closest we have from $HOME. As noted, you have the choice at install time to change the default directory if you wish. We are just presenting the user with 'sane defaults'. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Installer for Windows -- Icon
is it possible to use the logo from zope corp? http://www.zope.com/about_us/legal/zope_logo_usage.html if yes i can convert it an give all knows formats and sizes you need. christian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Sidnei da Silva Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. November 2006 22:04 An: zope-dev@zope.org Betreff: [Zope-dev] Installer for Windows -- Icon Anyone has a good Zope icon for Windows, with multiple sizes, that can be contributed? -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Christian(s)! I know most people dislike Program Files. I do too! But it's the closest we have to a 'standard' place for installing applications. It's not the 'standard'. To name a few examples, all of Python, Lotus Notes and, perhaps most tellingly, IIS and Microsoft's other server offerings, don't install themselves in Program Files, they create their own top level directory. As bad as it is, I too don't like Documents and Settings\username, but that's the closest we have from $HOME. Please god no. Again, from the above examples, Notes stores its data in C:\Notes\data and IIS in C:\inetpub\wwwroot, I think that's ample precedent for C:\Zope\instancex... As noted, you have the choice at install time to change the default directory if you wish. We are just presenting the user with 'sane defaults'. They're not sane, even by Microsoft's judgement ;-) Some more questions: - what's the difference between a Full and Compact installation? - what's the process going to be to get these releases onto zope.org? (I'm quite happy to do this manually if needed ;-) ) Many thanks for your work on this, though! cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Installer for Windows -- Icon
On 11/10/06, Christian Steinhauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible to use the logo from zope corp? http://www.zope.com/about_us/legal/zope_logo_usage.html Yes. if yes i can convert it an give all knows formats and sizes you need. All you need to know about icons: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnwxp/html/winxpicons.asp?frame=true -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Windows Installer Nice-to-have
Hi Sidnei, I don't know how easy this is to do, but one thing that would be _really_ nice would be to use an existing compatible python install rather than Zope splatting it's own in regardless. In fact, if we're re-doing the layout (which is, I think, a VERY good idea) my ideal layout would be: C:\Python24 C:\Zope\2.10.0 (NB: C:\Zope\2.10.0\Zope would NOT exist) C:\Zope\instance With C:\Python24 either being an existing Python install, if selected by the user, or being created in the same way as the normal Python installer does if its not there. Of course, if this option is implemented, you'd need to be able to specify where python gets put in case you don't want to overwrite an existing normal Python 2.4 install. I don't know what make a Zope python install special... What do other people think about this? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
On 11/10/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Christian(s)! I know most people dislike Program Files. I do too! But it's the closest we have to a 'standard' place for installing applications. It's not the 'standard'. To name a few examples, all of Python, Lotus Notes and, perhaps most tellingly, IIS and Microsoft's other server offerings, don't install themselves in Program Files, they create their own top level directory. Just as a note, those are pretty 'Advanced' applications. OTOH, Zope is too. So I buy your argument. What's your proposal for default Installation and Instance directories? Some more questions: - what's the difference between a Full and Compact installation? Good question. I just copied that over from the old installer. I will remove it, it doesn't seem to do anything useful. - what's the process going to be to get these releases onto zope.org? (I'm quite happy to do this manually if needed ;-) ) Yeah, my guess is that someone will do at least some quick QA before uploading it. So yes, manual would be preferred. Many thanks for your work on this, though! Thanks for helping me in the process! -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Windows Installer Nice-to-have
On 11/10/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sidnei, I don't know how easy this is to do, but one thing that would be _really_ nice would be to use an existing compatible python install rather than Zope splatting it's own in regardless. It is rather hard. I will wait until more people can give their own opinion before expressing mine though. In fact, if we're re-doing the layout (which is, I think, a VERY good idea) my ideal layout would be: C:\Python24 C:\Zope\2.10.0 (NB: C:\Zope\2.10.0\Zope would NOT exist) Should we go for Zope210 since Python is Python24? -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
Sidnei da Silva wrote: Just as a note, those are pretty 'Advanced' applications. OTOH, Zope is too. So I buy your argument. Yay :-) What's your proposal for default Installation and Instance directories? I borrowed Guido's time machine an answered this already in another message ;-) - what's the difference between a Full and Compact installation? Good question. I just copied that over from the old installer. I will remove it, it doesn't seem to do anything useful. Cool :-) - what's the process going to be to get these releases onto zope.org? (I'm quite happy to do this manually if needed ;-) ) Yeah, my guess is that someone will do at least some quick QA before uploading it. So yes, manual would be preferred. I volunteer for doing that, although that's like just meaning downloading, installing and starting using it when I'm poked to do so as I guess your buildbot already runs all the tests? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 9 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Nov 9 11:00:00 2006 UTC to Fri Nov 10 11:00:00 2006 UTC. There were 9 messages: 9 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.6 Python-2.1.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:27:51 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006521.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.6 Python-2.3.5 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:29:21 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006522.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.5 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:30:51 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006523.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.4.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:32:21 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006524.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.5 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:33:51 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006525.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.4.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:35:22 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006526.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:36:52 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006527.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:38:22 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006528.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.3 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Thu Nov 9 21:39:52 EST 2006 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2006-November/006529.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Windows Installer Nice-to-have
Sidnei da Silva wrote: C:\Python24 C:\Zope\2.10.0 (NB: C:\Zope\2.10.0\Zope would NOT exist) Should we go for Zope210 since Python is Python24? Nah, I like having C:\Zope\* as I always have several Zope versions on the go. I wish python would switch to C:\Python\2.4, but that's probably a harder persuasion to make ;-) Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
Previously Chris Withers wrote: Sidnei da Silva wrote: Hi Christian(s)! I know most people dislike Program Files. I do too! But it's the closest we have to a 'standard' place for installing applications. It's not the 'standard'. To name a few examples, all of Python, Lotus Notes and, perhaps most tellingly, IIS and Microsoft's other server offerings, don't install themselves in Program Files, they create their own top level directory. For their data, not for their binaries libraries. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Installer for Windows (quick question)
Wichert Akkerman wrote: For their data, not for their binaries libraries. Actually no, all of their data, binaries and libraries live in their own top level directories... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Installer for Windows -- Icon
On 11/9/06, Sidnei da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has a good Zope icon for Windows, with multiple sizes, that can be contributed? Sure: http://svn.zope.org/Zope/trunk/lib/python/OFS/standard/favicon.ico -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.nuxeo.org/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Installer for Windows -- Icon
Ah, great! Thanks! -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Windows Installer Nice-to-have
Alright, latest build is ready to go, including Lennart's icon. Let me know how that works for you. If there are no outstanding issues I would like to declare this the official release to be uploaded to Zope.org. http://files.enfoldsystems.com/Zope-2.9.5-Final-6514.exe If you want to test 2.10 as well: http://files.enfoldsystems.com/Zope-2.10.0-Final-6513.exe (The only change from 6513 to 6514 is the icon, latest 2.10 didn't finish building yet). -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope 3 Views for Errors
Hi there, I was wondering why there is no easy way to register a view for an exception in Zope 2 yet (not even in Zope 2.10!). There is a product in the z3-base called FiveException: http://codespeak.net/svn/z3/FiveException/trunk/ It basically replaces zpublisher_exception_hook to get a view called. I would like to change zpublisher_exception_hook in Zope 2.10 and up to lookup a view for the exception there and get rid of this ugly patch. +1/-1? -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
