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2008-02-26 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] I think the explicit versus implicit discussion has no place here. Placing a package on the 'develop' line is a very explicit action, and you place it on that line because you want to *develop on it*. Having another package being picked

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Martijn Faassen schrieb: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] I think the explicit versus implicit discussion has no place here. Placing a package on the 'develop' line is a very explicit action, and you place it on that line because you want to *develop on it*.

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
David Pratt wrote: Hi Martijn. I respect the points you make, but disagree with your comments. Wichert's reply accurately articulates what we are asking buildout to do. I share this view. It's not very useful to talk about a we asking buildout to do things when there is clearly a debate and

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those functions are actually orthogonal). The rule for the most

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those functions are actually

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Fred Drake
[Originally sent to Martin only; meant to send to the list.] On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meanwhile, you're satisfied already with actually looking at setup.py of the develop package and then repeating the version number *too*. It's

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY violation (see my argument that those

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Martijn Faassen schrieb: [snip] It's a clear DRY violation, the name of the package (and even the version number) repeats here. It's not clear to me that it's a DRY

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christophe Combelles
Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) I think the term 'develop' is badly chosen. You are right if you argue while having the meaning of 'develop' in mind. You are explaining what you think a 'develop' option should be. A 'develop' option means: I want to 'develop' on this package, so I want it

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning messages every build, or

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Christian Theune wrote: [snip] Nope. I'm not always working against a fixed version list. E.g. when I developt z3c.zalchemy then this is a library package, not an application, so I don't fix the versions but let anything that satisfies the the requirements in setup.py come in. This thread is

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christophe Combelles
Aaron Lehmann a écrit : On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people that understand either get spammed with warning messages

[Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, Thanks everybody for this discussion. I'm going to bail out now, and I want to share some of my conclusions: * We're going to have to live with the current 'versions/develop' story for a while. I've started try to document the existing behavior in buildout's doctests (faassen-develop)

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Feb 26, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Martijn Faassen wrote: Aaron Lehmann wrote: On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Christophe Combelles wrote: Martijn Faassen a écrit : (...) The two easiest choices are 1) issue a clear warning in stderr, or 2) rename 'develop' to something else. So, the people

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: buildout 'versions' and 'develop' conflict

2008-02-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Martijn Faassen schrieb: Christian Theune wrote: [snip] Nope. I'm not always working against a fixed version list. E.g. when I developt z3c.zalchemy then this is a library package, not an application, so I don't fix the versions but let anything that satisfies the the requirements in