[Zope-dev] ZPatterns alpha 3 released (was re: ZPatterns 0.4.0a2 bug fixes)

2000-06-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:54 AM 6/20/00 +0300, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: * The missing _objectChanged() message - it was very hard to track down, because everything appeared to be working right, except for the fact that it wasn't working. Turns out that _v_status_ (th

Re: [Zope-dev] Test request: ZSession - ZPatterns based session manager

2000-06-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 08:58 PM 6/19/00 +0800, mike wrote: http://www.zope.org/Members/RainDog/ZSession/ZSession-0.0.2.tar.gz/view Comments? Now that I've had a chance to really look at this (while tracking down one of the bugs you found), I do have a few comments. First, nice job... It's a good adaptation use

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns alpha 3 released (was re: ZPatterns0.4.0a2 bug fixes)

2000-06-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:25 PM 6/20/00 +0800, mike wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: Huh? Oh, %#()@%... I fixed that in my working copy, but didn't check it into CVS before building a release .tgz yesterday... Argh. Line 137 of DataSkins.py *should* read: if self._v_status_ is not Cha

Re: [Zope-dev] Test request: ZSession - ZPatterns basedsession manager

2000-06-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:51 PM 6/20/00 +0800, mike wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: example. Think of someone creating a Session subclass called "Shopping Cart", with methods for viewing, checking out, adding/deleting items, etc. Or, if they have many subsystems which want to share the s

Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns alpha 3 released (was re: ZPatterns0.4.0a2 bug fixes)

2000-06-20 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:49 PM 6/20/00 +0300, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: Huh? Oh, %#()@%... I fixed that in my working copy, but didn't check it into CVS before building a release .tgz yesterday... Argh. Line 137 of DataSkins.py *should* read: Great, it works! Tell me, were you able to use

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug in Changed events in ZPatterns 0.4.0a1?

2000-06-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 11:33 AM 6/19/00 +0300, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: As far as I can tell, the first time an object is changed, an Agent's _objectChanged() will be called, but as long as the object is still in the memory cache, _objectChanged() will not be called again. _objectChanged is a once per object

Re: [Zope-dev] One more bug

2000-06-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 08:44 PM 6/19/00 +0800, mike wrote: Fix for www/storageForm.dtml $ diff storageForm.dtml.orig storageForm.dtml 7c7 FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="manage_setStorage" --- FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="." 56c56 brINPUT TYPE="SUBMIT" value=" Change Storage Settings" --- brINPUT

Re: [Zope-dev] Bug? + another bug (ZPatterns 0.0.4a)

2000-06-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 08:12 PM 6/19/00 +0800, mike wrote: Another bug I found (file Rack.py): def createItem(self,key): # Create a new object, identified by key item = self.getItem(key) # XXX What if all items potentially exist? if item is not None: raise

[Zope-dev] ZPatterns 0.4.0a2 bug fixes

2000-06-19 Thread Phillip J. Eby
0.4.0a2 is out, to fix the bugs reported by Itamar and Mike. I have not yet reproduced all the bugs Mike has reported, but here's what's fixed in alpha 2: * The missing _objectChanged() message - it was very hard to track down, because everything appeared to be working right, except for the

Re: [Zope-dev] Logging for ZScheduler?

2000-06-15 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:42 PM 6/15/00 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: Agreed; I see this as by far the best approach. It's a tried and true pattern. Not only that, but it gives you extremely fine-grained control over what you do and don't log. And, if the other events like adds and deletes on folders are in

RE: [Zope-dev] Observable and ZPatterns (was Logging for ZScheduler?)

2000-06-15 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:40 PM 6/15/00 -0700, Loren Stafford wrote: Where is Observer-Observable in the development plan? ZPatterns 0.4? -- Loren No. 0.4 is targeted for 2.1.6 compatibility, and Observable will require Zope 2.2's new Traverse features. Also, 0.4 is due out tomorrow and I'm way behind on

Re: [Zope-dev] Logging for ZScheduler?

2000-06-14 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:58 PM 6/15/00 +1000, Stuart 'Zen' Bishop wrote: Its not a problem with ZScheduler, it a problem that no one has written a plug-in logging system that is good enough for what you are trying to do. The existing zLOG API is fine (well - it could be better), but just needs someone to write the

Re: [Zope-dev] package descriptions

2000-06-13 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:06 PM 6/13/00 -0600, ethan mindlace fremen wrote: Ok, lighter grey less blue bars. Also simply asking for more products will hide the DC products, as opposed to having to sort (which still works) Whitespace between entries, please, and an indent of the description would be nice. It's

Re: [Zope-dev] 0.4.0 prerelease snapshot (was zpatterns-0.4 ?)

2000-06-11 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 04:22 PM 6/11/00 -0400, Kevin Dangoor wrote: What will be the right way to subclass ObjectManager? CatalogAware won't really be necessary, because you can use the events stuff to catalog things... but, I make a lot of things ObjectManagers... All that's required is that manage_afterAdd call

Re: [Zope-dev] Externalize or Adapt? (ZPatterns)

2000-06-10 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:31 PM 6/10/00 +0800, Mike wrote: Maybe the best way is to put a 'thumb' data source into Customers instead of native one. This thumb should translate all messages to SkyDivers' data source. Yes, a "Delegation Rack" is certainly possible. It would make it really easy to merge data from

[Zope-dev] Re: ZPatterns complexity?

2000-06-02 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:40 PM 6/2/00 +0800, Mike wrote: As I'm reading ZPatterns source code more and more I'm finding there are good things just hidden in unclean or bad defined interfaces. Just a suggestion: define interfaces as abstract classes first, then implement them (as AbstractRack, DefaultRack and

Re: [Zope-dev] LM 0.8.6 w/CurrentCVS failure

2000-06-02 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:51 AM 6/2/00 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: [...] LM 0.8.6 also works with Zope 2.2 as far as being able to be added, although I'm not sure it interoperates properly with the new security API. It will still be backward compatible with Zope 2.1.6 either w

Re: [Zope-dev] CatalogAwareness for RackMountables

2000-05-30 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:53 PM 5/30/00 +0300, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: I've been playing around with ZPatterns, and I must say it's very cool - finally you can mix ZCatalog and SQL storage. CatalogAwareness is slightly different than regular Zope objects in that you have to find the ZCatalog in the Rack's

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login

2000-05-28 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 06:14 PM 5/26/00 -0400, Evan Simpson wrote: D'oh! How 'bout if REQUEST.close() were to always do a self.__dict__.clear()? Are you absolutely positively sure that REQUEST.response is never accessed following REQUEST.close()? In my cursory examination of the code paths, I wasn't sure that

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login

2000-05-26 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:05 PM 5/26/00 -0400, Evan Simpson wrote: - Original Message - From: Phillip J. Eby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Been there, done that. Yours doesn't work either, btw. Well, actually, it does, it's just that it causes a memory leak because it leaves an unintended circular reference. We've

Re: [Zope-dev] zpatterns: rackmountables must be of-wrapped

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 01:56 PM 5/25/00 +0400, Jephte CLAIN wrote: When I don't wrap items like this, I get strange unauthorized errors. Only the super user can use the items. All the other users (Managers or not) can't. In normal usage, one only accesses a rack from or in a Specialist. Specialists wrap the

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 12:45 AM 5/25/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: Ah, ok -- I was planning simply to leverage the ZODB's facilities for maintaining persistent references in the DefaultObservable mix-in; more elaborate schemes would be possible (for instance to support rack-mounted observers?) Actually, just using

Re: [Zope-dev] Resource Discovery (was Observer / Notification Interface Proposal) Proposal)

2000-05-25 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 10:03 AM 5/26/00 +1000, Anthony Baxter wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote I would suggest that it ask for an interface, rather than a meta_type. Otherwise, you've hardwired yourself into a single object type with no extensibility. For example, an SQL method wants the nearest SQL

Re: [Zope-dev] zpatterns: rackmountables must be of-wrapped

2000-05-24 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:33 PM 5/24/00 +0400, Jephte CLAIN wrote: Hello, I believe items got from a rack have to be wrapped in context of the rack. I've been bitten by this (and it hurts!). When I try to use items from DTML, only the superuser can use it, even managers can't access the objects. When I wrap the

Re: [Zope-dev] Problems with LoginManager form-based login

2000-05-24 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 05:24 PM 5/24/00 +0300, Itamar Shtull-Trauring wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: Make your root acl_users a LoginManager, with the loginForm there. LoginManager will only allow "Anonymous" to log in if it is the root acl_users. This is how standard user folders behave, a

Re: [Zope-dev] Observer / Notification Interface Proposal

2000-05-24 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 07:19 PM 5/24/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: I have started a page for an implementation of the GangOfFour Observer pattern within Zope: URL http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/Projects/Interfaces/ObserverAndNotificat ion Please comment, either here or in the wiki. Is this only for events

[Zope-dev] Re: Re: [Zope-dev] ZPatterns framework improvements

2000-05-21 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 03:51 PM 5/21/00 -0400, Tres Seaver wrote: This is really just the classic Observer pattern, a la GoF Design Patterns. "ObjectAdded" and "ObjectRemoved" are events a "RackObserver" would register for; "AfterCreate", "Changed", and "BeforeDestroy" are events of the "hosted" object itself.

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Fixed reply Re: [Zope-dev] Trouble setting LoginManager default user class default user class

2000-05-18 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 04:04 PM 5/18/00 -0400, Dan L. Pierson wrote: The portal now gets created, but I can't login to the initial account. I also can't display the members roster by clicking on Members (AttributeError for getUsers), but can write a DTML method in the UserSource that lists all one user. The code

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