Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Evan Gibson
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 10:23:38AM -0600, mindlace wrote: > Robin Becker wrote: > > What kind of idiotic permissions model is this where God cannot create > > anything? What is the function of the super user if not to manage? > > Seems to be specially designed for bureaucrats, lawyers and politici

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread mindlace
Robin Becker wrote: > What kind of idiotic permissions model is this where God cannot create > anything? What is the function of the super user if not to manage? > > Seems to be specially designed for bureaucrats, lawyers and politicians. I feel like this specifically needed to be addressed. T

[Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Robin Becker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Robin Becker wrote: >> What steps should I try to allow my currently unowned >> documents/tinytables to be made accessible. When I press the change >> ownership button I get a help browser with an error message in the >> con

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Bill Anderson
Robin Becker wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Withers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > ... > > > >Might help if you said what problems you were experiencing... > > > ... > I already did. I cannot use the preexisting database tinytables. > Following your suggestion I can create God,

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers
Robin Becker wrote: > What steps should I try to allow my currently unowned > documents/tinytables to be made accessible. When I press the change > ownership button I get a help browser with an error message in the > content frame. That sounds like a 2.2 bug to me... oh well... it is Alpha so fai

[Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Robin Becker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes ... > >Might help if you said what problems you were experiencing... > ... I already did. I cannot use the preexisting database tinytables. Following your suggestion I can create God, and then having logged in as God I can ac

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers
Robin Becker wrote: > What kind of idiotic permissions model is this where God cannot create > anything? What is the function of the super user if not to manage? The super user is not god, that was seen to be an insecure thing. The super user is a facilitator for creating god... ;-) > Seems to b

[Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Robin Becker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Robin Becker wrote: >[stuff about 2.2] > >You can't create any objects except User Objects as the superuser. >Create a manager, re-login as that manager and then add yoru objects. > >Can't speak for TinyTables but make sure

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Chris Withers
Robin Becker wrote: [stuff about 2.2] You can't create any objects except User Objects as the superuser. Create a manager, re-login as that manager and then add yoru objects. Can't speak for TinyTables but make sure the Anonymous role has the 'access TinyTables contents' permission. A lot of peo

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Anthony Baxter
>>> Robin Becker wrote > Is there any clear way for stuff which used to work under the old api to > be migrated to 2.2? I'm presently unable to create tinytables as super > user (presumably because they lack the relevant attributes). I used to > be able to access them anonymously, but am unable t

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-22 Thread Robin Becker
Is there any clear way for stuff which used to work under the old api to be migrated to 2.2? I'm presently unable to create tinytables as super user (presumably because they lack the relevant attributes). I used to be able to access them anonymously, but am unable to under 2.2. For the non-expert

[Zope-dev] Re: Superuser ownership (was "Adding LoginManager at the root")

2000-05-19 Thread Jim Fulton
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > > At 05:12 PM 5/16/00 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: > >"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > >> > >> 2. The current implementation/usage of "manage_fixupOwnership" seems broken > >> to us, in that moving, renaming, and importing objects causes the current > >> user to silently take respo