Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Toby Dickenson
On Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:55 -0400 (EDT), Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 31 May 2001, Toby Dickenson wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 May 2001 10:03:31 -0400 (EDT), Shane Hathaway >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Right now ZCatalog randomly generates ConflictErrors even if there are no

[Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
Hello everyone, after I got finally frustrated enough with the current implementation of the Zope DateTime module, I decided to write a wrapper for mxDateTime. I checked the license, and the eGenix Public License is GPL compatible, so that we can use it for Zope now. For more details, see htt

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Toby Dickenson
My last post didnt make much sense. This time ill include all the words in my sentence > Large catalog >updates (where every object is reindexed) also generate a lot of >conflicts. Is that last bit true? I thought 'Update Catalog' created *new* indexes. There might be a conflict on the root

Re: [Zope-dev] A simple dtml-if question...

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Withers
> Thanks Christian, but it didn't work. I went with the long way: > > > > Valid response > > False response > > > False response > Valid Response Fasle Response cheers, Chris ___ Zop

Re: [Zope-dev] Request for a Pluggin Index (NameIndex)

2001-06-07 Thread Andreas Jung
- Original Message - From: "ender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andreas Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "zope-dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Request for a Pluggin Index (NameIndex) > On Monday 04 June 2001 16:55, Andreas Jung wrote: > >

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 07:43, Toby Dickenson wrote: > > Large catalog > >updates (where every object is reindexed) also generate a lot of > >conflicts. > > Is that last bit true? I thought 'Update Catalog' created *new* > indexes. There might be a conflict on the root catalog object, but > not o

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Withers
Shane Hathaway wrote: > > But I think I have a solution for all of the issues in conflict > resolution. If you, or anyone else, is also interested in this, please > show support (if only by saying "please do this"!) :-) I can't work on > it unless I have a reason to. Please do this! :-) I'm p

RE: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
>We at one point were fiddling with mx from eegenix, for psycopgDA. We found >out the hard way that the mx.h headers in the DateTime were being put in a >funny place. Perhaps that may give you a clue. I hope you are going to use mxDateTime for a new PostGreSQL DA. This would be for me the MAIN

[Zope-dev] Using Threads in Zope-Product

2001-06-07 Thread Ulrich Eck
Hi zopistas, I currently work on a PythonProduct called JobManager. The purpose of this Product is, that one can define a hierachical set of PythonScripts (Jobs with SubJobs) that are executed in seperate Threads by call or scheduled. This is intended for use with expensive Database-Update or m

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
At 10:28 AM 6/7/01 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: >Actually, it's good that the license is BSDish, that means that it's >legally possible to include mxDateTime inside a Zope distribution. Cool, so the license problem is definitely solved. Now, we just have to get rid of the last technical issues.

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Chris McDonough
I think using mxDateTime would be a great idea (it would mean DC would no longer need to maintain our own DateTime module). And since you've done a lot of good work in creating a wrapper, we've got a head start. But I think before it can go in to any release, we need to follow the fishbowl proce

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: > It really doesn't matter how many conflicts there are. Within a > single transaction, 1 conflict is as bad as 100. Why? > But I think I have a solution for all of the issues in conflict > resolution. Whee! > If you, or anyone else, is also inter

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread John D . Heintz
Me too! Me too! John On Thursday 07 June 2001 08:49, Chris Withers wrote: > Shane Hathaway wrote: > > But I think I have a solution for all of the issues in conflict > > resolution. If you, or anyone else, is also interested in this, please > > show support (if only by saying "please do this"!)

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
At 11:21 AM 6/7/01 -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: >I think using mxDateTime would be a great idea (it would mean DC would >no longer need to maintain our own DateTime module). And since you've >done a lot of good work in creating a wrapper, we've got a head start. >But I think before it can go in

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 09:34 AM 6/7/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: > >One thing I didn't make clear in the proposal is that I'm interested in >repurposing ZCatalog as a general ZODB indexing mechanism and >essentially moving it down from the application layer to the database >layer. Catalogs would be updated aut

[Zope-dev] DBObjects 1.1.0b1 (with volatile support)

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
Hello everyone, in my development of making SmartObjects a reality, I have implemented the 'isVolatile' attribute into DBObjects. If an object is volatile, it is not saved in the ZODB, but is created on run time. Thanks a lot Jonathan; without LocalFS as my template I could have not done it!

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Dan L. Pierson
--On Thursday, June 07, 2001 09:34:54 AM -0400 Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But I think I have a solution for all of the issues in conflict > resolution. If you, or anyone else, is also interested in this, please > show support (if only by saying "please do this"!) :-) I can't

Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] API Documentation Fishbowl Project

2001-06-07 Thread Dan L. Pierson
--On Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:50:43 AM -0700 jimbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope this helps. I wanted to add my feelings on the whole documentation > issue. It seems to me that the whole process caters around developers > too much. I have to disagree with you **in the context of thi

[Zope-dev] Bug in Zope VersionControl

2001-06-07 Thread Christian Theune
hello again ... Okay ... I admit using opera and enjoying it. Problem is, that opera is sooo standardsconform. See Zope/lib/python/Products/OFSP/Version.py:175 in function enter() Somebody thats the path for the cookie as SCRIPT_NAME. This seems that the scope of the versions should be limited

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 11:51, Erik Enge wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Shane Hathaway wrote: > > It really doesn't matter how many conflicts there are. Within a > > single transaction, 1 conflict is as bad as 100. > > Why? Because in Zope it means the whole request is processed again (which can

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thursday 07 June 2001 12:17, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 09:34 AM 6/7/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: > >One thing I didn't make clear in the proposal is that I'm interested > > in repurposing ZCatalog as a general ZODB indexing mechanism and > > essentially moving it down from the application l

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 02:07 PM 6/7/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: >On Thursday 07 June 2001 12:17, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > >> The >> only catch was that this would still produce conflicts at the head >> end of the linked list. :( Of course, that was in the days before >> ZODB conflict resolution. Nowadays, you c

[Zope-dev] xt_objects, and weird problems with properties

2001-06-07 Thread tav
i am encountering some rather bizarre problems with 'properties' on xt_objects, which are effectively fancy folderish DTML Documents. the problems are two fold... - i call manage_changeProperties on an xt_object within other xt_objects, and at times, it would change the same property, e.g. xt_op

[Zope-dev] Property Storage

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Withers
Hi, If I change one property on, say, a DTML Document, does that store a whole new copy of the document in the ZODB? If not, then how are properties stored? Is so, then how about storing properties in their own mini-class that just subclassed Persistent, so each property got its own pickle jar?

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: > That is, in ZPatterns one can specify triggers such as: > > WHEN OBJECT DELETED, CHANGED CALL > someCatalog.manage_uncatalog(self.absolute_url(1)) > WHEN OBJECT ADDED, CHANGED CALL > someCatalog.manage_catalog(self,self.absolute_url(1)) After I read this again I realize

Re: [Zope-dev] [Announce] API Documentation Fishbowl Project

2001-06-07 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, jimbo wrote: > I believe that if you are a true developer you will/can figure out the api given >the vast information available today. > For example the dcworkflow product was just released. I believe the best >documentation would be how-to actually use the product. Ah,

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Shane Hathaway
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > >I was thinking that certain types of objects would be committed by the > >transaction manager before all others. In this case, the catalog (or a > >special object in the catalog) would be committed first. It would > >resolve all conflicts in the cont

Re: [Zope-dev] Property Storage

2001-06-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 09:29 PM 6/7/01 +0100, Chris Withers wrote: > >If I change one property on, say, a DTML Document, does that store a whole >new copy of the document in the ZODB? It updates the object in the ZODB. Whether that causes a copy to be made, depends on the underlying storage. FileStorage makes copi

[Zope-dev] ANN: ReplacingDateTime proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Andreas Jung
Feel free to review and comment the propsal to replace the current DateTime module of Zope by the mxDateTime module: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/ReplacingDateTime Cheers, Andreas Digitial Creations ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL

[Zope-dev] DCOracle2 Beta 2

2001-06-07 Thread Matt Kromer
Description DCOracle2 is a Python binding to Oracle 8. DCOracle2 is a replacement for DCOracle, written primarily in C. DCOracle 1 uses OCI 7 bindings for most Oracle calls, with OCI 8 mixed in for LOB support. Oracle 8i disallows mixing of calls within a statement, and so breaks LOB support. DC

Re: [Zope-dev] Bulletproof ZCatalog proposal

2001-06-07 Thread Phillip J. Eby
At 07:07 PM 6/7/01 -0400, Shane Hathaway wrote: >"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: >> That is, in ZPatterns one can specify triggers such as: >> >> WHEN OBJECT DELETED, CHANGED CALL >> someCatalog.manage_uncatalog(self.absolute_url(1)) >> WHEN OBJECT ADDED, CHANGED CALL >> someCatalog.manage_catalog(self,s

RE: [Zope-dev] A simple dtml-if question...

2001-06-07 Thread Jeff Nielsen / UgoFast
Hey thanks. That works. -Original Message- From: Chris Withers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:43 AM To: Jeff Nielsen / UgoFast Cc: Christian Theune; Zope-Dev@Zope. Org Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] A simple dtml-if question... > Thanks Christian, but it didn't work

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Hannu Krosing
Stephan Richter wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > after I got finally frustrated enough with the current implementation of > the Zope DateTime module, I decided to write a wrapper for mxDateTime. I > checked the license, and the eGenix Public License is GPL compatible, so > that we can use it for Z

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Stephan Richter
>What does being GPL compatible have to do with Zope ? >Have I missed some licence changes/discussion ? Originally mxDateTime was not completely open. This was earlier on a problem, if we wanted to use it for Zope. But now, we can do this. So I just wanted to make the point that mxDateTime is

Re: [Zope-dev] mxDateTime-based Zope DateTime module

2001-06-07 Thread Chris McDonough
Actually, it's good that the license is BSDish, that means that it's legally possible to include mxDateTime inside a Zope distribution. Stephan Richter wrote: > > >What does being GPL compatible have to do with Zope ? > >Have I missed some licence changes/discussion ? > > Originally mxDateTime