[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-27 Thread Laurence Rowe
Dieter Maurer wrote: Laurence Rowe wrote at 2007-9-26 11:08 +0100: ... To enable an evolutionary approach DateTime <-> datetime conversions must be made round-tripable. This is currently difficult as DateTimes have a resolution of milliseconds and datetimes a resolution of microseconds. I pro

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dieter Maurer wrote: > Laurence Rowe wrote at 2007-9-26 11:08 +0100: > > ... > >To enable an evolutionary approach DateTime <-> datetime conversions > >must be made round-tripable. This is currently difficult as DateTimes > >have a resolution of milliseconds and datetimes a resolution

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Laurence Rowe wrote at 2007-9-26 11:08 +0100: > ... >To enable an evolutionary approach DateTime <-> datetime conversions >must be made round-tripable. This is currently difficult as DateTimes >have a resolution of milliseconds and datetimes a resolution of >microseconds. I propose: > > * Incr

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. September 2007 11:08:23 +0100 Laurence Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Just for the logs: I gave up my work on an inplace DateTime migration.. too compliated, too much cruft would have to remain for backward compatibility. Let's see how we can address the issue

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-26 Thread Laurence Rowe
Andreas Jung wrote: Just for the logs: I gave up my work on an inplace DateTime migration.. too compliated, too much cruft would have to remain for backward compatibility. Let's see how we can address the issue in a reasonable way :-) To enable an evolutionary approach DateTime <-> datetime

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-01 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-9-1 12:59 +0200: > ... >I came across python-dateutil some days ago > > > >which appears really impressive to me (and useful). python-dateutil + >datetime would be an equivalent replacement for DateTime. > >Just for the logs: I gave up m

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-09-01 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 28. August 2007 12:04:35 +0100 Laurence Rowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I believe that "datetime" is not even importable in TTW code and "datetime" objects not accessible in TTW code -- at least, they have not been until recently... allow_module('datet

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-29 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-28 21:49 +0200: >On 28 Aug 2007, at 21:48 , Dieter Maurer wrote: >> Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-27 22:33 +0200: > ... "datetime" use ... >My point was just that it's doable and has >been for a long time already. Yes, it is possible (for a l

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-28 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 28 Aug 2007, at 21:48 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-27 22:33 +0200: ... I believe that "datetime" is not even importable in TTW code and "datetime" objects not accessible in TTW code -- at least, they have not been until recently... allow_module('datetime

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-28 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-27 22:33 +0200: > ... >> I believe that "datetime" is not even importable in TTW code >> and "datetime" objects not accessible in TTW code -- at least, >> they have not been until recently... > >allow_module('datetime') is all you had to do. Ok, admittedly,

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-28 Thread Laurence Rowe
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: I believe that "datetime" is not even importable in TTW code and "datetime" objects not accessible in TTW code -- at least, they have not been until recently... allow_module('datetime') is all you had to do. Ok, admittedly, pure-TTW developers who can't or won

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
On 27 Aug 2007, at 22:25 , Dieter Maurer wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-27 22:11 +0200: ... In my personal opinion, we should * use datetime for all the new stuff that we write, * provide a convenient way to convert DateTime objects into datetime, * create alternate APIs for

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-27 Thread Dieter Maurer
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote at 2007-8-27 22:11 +0200: > ... >In my personal opinion, we should > >* use datetime for all the new stuff that we write, > >* provide a convenient way to convert DateTime objects into datetime, > >* create alternate APIs for all the APIs that work with DateTime obje

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dieter Maurer wrote: Andreas Jung wrote at 2007-8-26 20:31 +0200: ... Conversion between both is pretty much trivial. However I have no idea how this would solve the DateTime problem. So what are our DateTime problems? - an insane constructor with a parser trying to parse almost every date

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-26 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:31:13 -0700, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would not care about some incompatibilities if people have the chance using the old version somehow (e.g. through a DT egg). +1, for what it's worth. ;) Dealing with the existing DateTime implementation has been pai

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Tres Seaver wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, perhaps the sun burned too long on my brain today but I investigated some options for replacing DateTime with Python's datetime module. Zope 3 uses datetime and we all know that the DateTime implementation sucks. Especially the timezone implementatio

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > > --On 25. August 2007 12:33:41 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Andreas Jung wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> perhaps the sun burned too long on my brain today bu

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 25. August 2007 12:33:41 -0400 Tres Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Hi, perhaps the sun burned too long on my brain today but I investigated some options for replacing DateTime with Python's datetime module. Zope 3

[Zope-dev] Re: Options replacing DateTime with datetime!?

2007-08-25 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: > Hi, > > perhaps the sun burned too long on my brain today but I investigated some > options for replacing DateTime with Python's datetime module. Zope 3 uses > datetime and we all know that the DateTime implementation sucks. Esp