Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-24 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > We will be using Sphinx for the site. > It will require: > > 1. Python 2.4 > 2. Sphinx > 3. docutils > 4. Pygments Strictly speaking only the person who generates the documentation would need Sphinx, as I

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Baiju M
- "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > OK, we decided to go ahead with this work. And we will be using > > a subdomain of zope.org and it will be hosted using ZF server > > infrastructu

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > OK, we decided to go ahead with this work. And we will be using > a subdomain of zope.org and it will be hosted using ZF server > infrastructure. I will contact Jens once content and site is ready. Great!

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Baiju M
- "Martijn Faassen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work. > > Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon > > will be he

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Christian, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:01PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. You ask good questions and you > > make good comments. > > > > I just keep repeating this as i

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hey, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:46:01PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. You ask good questions and you > make good comments. > > I just keep repeating this as it's just too easy to get into a what > color should the bikeshed be discussion about naming and meani

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey Christian, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:28:35PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > [...good pointers...] > > > > > Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like > > this either. I'd rather not d

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:28:35PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > [...good pointers...] > > Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like > this either. I'd rather not distract people from actually producing > useful websites. :) It's definitely not productive in the way that

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Anyway, I'm not sure how produce it is to go into discussions like > this either. Um, 'productive', not 'produce'. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I still have the feeling we should spend time getting our story straight. For > example: Why is "zc.buildout" a "Zope project"? The new site starts talking > about the "Zope libraries" which people s

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 01:10:19PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > I'm on the fence on this one. I think as long as the site *says* it's > affiliated with the Zope project, the Zope community and the > foundation, we're fine. You can argue both directions here: we might > even *help* send the

Re: [Zope.org Redux] Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Christophe Combelles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I personally think we *must* introduce buildout somewhere in zope.org, but > if someone also build a more complete separate site (with potentially a > queriable repository of recipes), it's ok, and

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christophe Combelles
Christian Theune a écrit : True. Considering that the current zope.org effort hopefully won't die (when are we going to go live? Is there something like a check list or road map?) I will be working on it for 3 days at the Paris sprint Hope I will succeed in doing something useful... Right. B

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [buildout.org versus buildout.zope.org] > > Agreed, we shouldn't hide ourselves. I think *.python.org is a step > > too far. What I do think is that it's good to let projects that *do* > > stand on their own

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:45:16PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > I think it is better not to associate Buildout with zope.org domain. > > > So, either we can create a new domain www.

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Christian Theune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > I think it is better not to associate Buildout with zope.org domain. > > So, either we can create a new domain www.buildout.org > > or if you all agree a subdomain of python.org : buildout.python.

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hi there, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Baiju M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work. > Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon > will be helping us to create this site [1]. Great! [we already had some pri

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-23 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:00:15PM +0530, Baiju M wrote: > Martijn Faassen wrote: > Our company (ZeOmega) is willing to volunteer to do this work. > Jeff Rush, who presented a tutorial about Buildout in last PyCon > will be helping us to create this site [1]. Cool! > I think it is better not

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-22 Thread Baiju M
Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, I just found out about this site: http://www.blueskyonmars.com/projects/paver/ I know that the author has used buildout in the past. He apparently decided to roll his own. I have no idea what the technical qualities of paver are. To get your attention,

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-22 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 22. April 2008 17:14:49 -0600 Shane Hathaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kent Tenney wrote: From Kevin's blog http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/22/paver-and-the-building-distribut ion-deployment-etc-of-python-projects/ (http://tinyurl.com/68sz6u) "The idea is to use zc.buildout's

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-22 Thread Shane Hathaway
Kent Tenney wrote: From Kevin's blog http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/22/paver-and-the-building-distribution-deployment-etc-of-python-projects/ (http://tinyurl.com/68sz6u) "The idea is to use zc.buildout's machinery, not reinvent it." I agree, it sounds like Kevin wants to take the best

Re: [Zope-dev] paver: buildout is utterly doomed

2008-04-22 Thread Kent Tenney
>From Kevin's blog http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/22/paver-and-the-building-distribution-deployment-etc-of-python-projects/ (http://tinyurl.com/68sz6u) "The idea is to use zc.buildout's machinery, not reinvent it." On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: