[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Publication Post-Processing

2005-09-16 Thread Paul Everitt
Jim Fulton wrote: At: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/PublicationPostProcessing I've put doesn some thoughs for discussion on making the publication APIs more explicit and for supporting post processing tasks like adding standard look and feel or adding

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-16 Thread Chris Withers
Tim Peters wrote: How would you do what manually? Install all the versions of Python you care about on Windows, and build Zope using the version of Python you want to test with. For example, \Python23\python setup.py build_ext -i install_data --install-dir . \Python23\python test.py

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-16 Thread Chris Withers
Benji York wrote: It's running the tests, that's what we're interested in. Ah, okay, but could we also use the buildbot model to build binary distros for various platforms? As a side issue, what's the security setup like? How do you control who can set up a slave and, as such, who gets to

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Rename principal to participant

2005-09-16 Thread Florent Guillaume
Steve Alexander wrote: Interesting. It looks to me like you're calling a User object what the CMF calls a Member. Sure. Does the CMF have any users who aren't members? The theory is a bit hazy but the practice is quite clear: in CMF all participants are members. The Member object is just a

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: most specific interface?

2005-09-16 Thread Fred Drake
On 9/16/05, Florent Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Or use a convenience method to do that, I'm not sure if alsoProvides() was ever implemented.) zope.interface.alsoProvides() works like a champ. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com Zope Corporation

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Publication Post-Processing

2005-09-16 Thread Jim Fulton
Paul Everitt wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: At: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/PublicationPostProcessing I've put doesn some thoughs for discussion on making the publication APIs more explicit and for supporting post processing tasks like adding standard

[Zope3-dev] Re: most specific interface?

2005-09-16 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Florent Guillaume wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: from zope.app.content.interfaces import IContentType from zope.app.file.interfaces import IFile from zope.interface import directlyProvides directlyProvides(IFile, IContentType)

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Publication Post-Processing

2005-09-16 Thread Janko Hauser
Am 16.09.2005 um 15:59 schrieb Jim Fulton: Paul Everitt wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Consider the headings under Need for page-composition support, Pipelines, Transitive Adaptation, and the subset described under Subscription. It might be possible to also do these inside a WSGI Twisted in

Re: [Zope3-dev] A Call for Slaves

2005-09-16 Thread Tim Peters
[Chris Withers] Oh, sorry, I meant how do you select the right version of VC++? You don't; distutils does; if you use a Python 2.3 on Windows, its distutils will use VC6 to compile C extensions; if you use a Python 2.4 on Windows, its distutils will use VC7. It's all driven by which Python you

[Zope3-dev] Re: most specific interface?

2005-09-16 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: does alsoProvides() check for interfaces already listed? No, but directlyProvides does. Issuing the same directlyProvides(...) call twice has the same effect as issuing it once. Philipp ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

[Zope3-dev] Zope 3.1.0 RC 3 released!

2005-09-16 Thread Stephan Richter
The Zope 3 development team is proud to announce Zope 3.1.0 candidate 3. Zope 3 is the next major Zope release and has been written from scratch based on the latest software design patterns and the experiences of Zope 2. It is in our opinion that Zope 3.1 is more than ready for production use,

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
Sorry for the long delay in replying. We've been using widget-specific JS and CSS for some time now and I like our approach. It's quite different from the proposal. We're using the same pattern used by forms/widgets -- i.e. the PT is responsible for explicitly including HTML fragments provided

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
I don't understand what you just said :-) My fault -- I haven't been plugged into the other discussion. Is there a branch somewhere that has a simple demo to help with grokability? -- Garrett On Friday, September 16, 2005 12:28 PM, Gary Poster wrote: On Sep 16, 2005, at 12:49 PM, Garrett

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
I mean something that illustrates Gary's 'big picture'. I understand the resource lib proposal, but I don't have any grasp of the broader vision driving it. If it's just a patch to get 'rich' widgets working, I'll stick with my initial impression of it being too magical. -- Garrett On

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
On Friday, September 16, 2005 4:05 PM, Benji York wrote: Garrett Smith wrote: If it's just a patch to get 'rich' widgets working, I'll stick with my initial impression of it being too magical. The main reasons why this isn't a problem individual widgets can solve is that 1) they can't

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
My point is that if rich widgets are the *only* driver here, the solution below is a better fit with the existing widgets implementation. The transformation of the HEAD doesn't jive with existing patterns. If there's a new pattern afoot (pipelining?), I hope we get a chance to discuss it. If

RE: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Garrett Smith
On Friday, September 16, 2005 3:58 PM, Gary Poster wrote: You could also be asking about the pipeline ideas, but that's not my first guess. :-) Yes, I suspect this is what I'm missing. There was an earlier post about Ajax. It seems an entirely new approach would be needed to solidly support

Re: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Benji York
Garrett Smith wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2005 5:17 PM, Benji York wrote: Garret Smith wrote: FWIW, we would not be able to use this new scheme exclusively as some of our IHeadContent providers provide more than file includes. E.g. we have a menu component that dynamically builds

Re: [Zope3-dev] Resource Library Proposal

2005-09-16 Thread Gary Poster
On Sep 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Garrett Smith wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2005 3:58 PM, Gary Poster wrote: You could also be asking about the pipeline ideas, but that's not my first guess. :-) Yes, I suspect this is what I'm missing. Maybe so. Maybe you just disagree. :-) In a