[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists

2007-10-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jim Fulton wrote: Any objections? This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope3-dev] faulty releases and pypi access

2007-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephan Richter wrote: I totally disagree. If we trust people with repository access, then we have to trust them with release making. If you subscribe to the egg process, you have to do frequent releases. Why would eggs require more frequent releases? Wichert. -- Wichert

Re: [Zope3-dev] faulty releases and pypi access

2007-09-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 26 September 2007 09:20, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Stephan Richter wrote: I totally disagree. If we trust people with repository access, then we have to trust them with release making. If you subscribe to the egg process, you have to do

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: z3c.widget not on pypi?

2007-09-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
repository for that project. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

[Zope3-dev] z3c.widget not on pypi?

2007-09-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I noticed that z3c.widget has a tagged release on svn but there is no cheeseshop entry for it. Is that on purpose? It would be practical to have it registered there. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope3-dev] z3c.widget not on pypi?

2007-09-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Jodok Batlogg wrote: On 18.09.2007, at 23:29, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I noticed that z3c.widget has a tagged release on svn but there is no cheeseshop entry for it. Is that on purpose? It would be practical to have it registered there. you bring up an interesting point... the current

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.sendmail having dependency on zope.app.comonent

2007-09-05 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Marius Gedminas wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 01:21:08PM +0200, Christian Theune wrote: Am Freitag, den 31.08.2007, 13:06 +0200 schrieb Wichert Akkerman: Is there documentation on sources anywhere? The last time I checked there was nothing that I could understand either

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: Known working sets

2007-09-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: On 4 Sep 2007, at 01:21 , Tres Seaver wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: The only problem is that distributing grok-0.11.cfg is a bit

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Known working sets

2007-09-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.sendmail having dependency on zope.app.comonent

2007-08-31 Thread Wichert Akkerman
.* or on the wiki. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [StabilizeEggPackages] (edit) Is that all that has to be done in setup.py?

2007-08-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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[Zope3-dev] zalchemy broken on the cheeseshop

2007-08-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
that 0.2 was not finished, perhaps it should be removed from the cheeseshop as well? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/setup.py using pypi as homepage instead of svn.zope.org

2007-08-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Add function for schema validation in zope.schema

2007-08-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
and looks like the if condition is incorrect. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

[Zope3-dev] z3c.zalchemy tag missing?

2007-08-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] copied doctest in z3.zope3recipes for Windows support

2007-08-16 Thread Wichert Akkerman
wrong. I don't understand that. Having to maintain duplicate unit tests or duplicate documents sounds like the exact same amount of duplicate work and problems to me. Why do you consider duplicate documents to be more problematic? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/checker.py, line 420, in ? AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'thread_local' I see the same thing: create a new project with grokproject, run bin/zopectl fg and it aborts with that error. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: zope.security problems related to Python 2.5 update? (Was: [Zope3-dev] Removed zope.security 3.4b4)

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
. This is deeper than I thought. b3 doesn't work either. It looks like the merge from the branch with support for Python 2.5 is causing the problems. I can confirm that the last release before the python 2.5 support was added (3.4.0-b2) works correctly. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope3-dev] 'thread_local' AttributeError in zope.security.checker

2007-08-15 Thread Wichert Akkerman
/wichert/buildout-eggs/tmpG_NQ4q/zope.security-3.4.0b3-py2.4-linux-i686.egg/zope/security/checker.py, line 420, in ? AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'thread_local' Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Windows eggs

2007-07-14 Thread Wichert Akkerman
have to step through the test with pdb, at which point it becomes very painful. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Windows eggs

2007-07-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
use cases, for which doctests are best suited. Amen. I find failing doctests to be much harder to debug as well. I use doctests as a method to make sure examples in my documentation are correct, which is very useful. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things

Re: [Zope3-dev] RFC: Don't need $Id$ string any more

2007-07-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
on the file last and when the work was done. I find it inconvenient to make another SVN call to get this information. Their major downside is that they cause a lot of polution when diffing trees. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope egg dependencies and tests

2007-04-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Theune wrote: Well. This depends. If you want to enable eggs to work against unstable releases then you need to do 3.3, because: 3.3 3.4dev 3.4a 3.4(.0) But =3.4dev should always work, right? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: IKeyReference for files

2007-03-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martijn Faassen wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Uwe Oestermeier wrote: Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreibt: Now I'm hoping I'm missing some kind of strategy and perhaps someone will have a luminous idea to make this work without the creation of a separate index

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope3 Standalone Page Templates

2007-03-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I can see most people, use SimpleTAL (http://www.owlfish.com/software/simpleTAL/) if I need to use TAL outside of Zope. It's very small and has no dependencies. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard

Re: [Zope3-dev] Proposal for optimized Blob handling

2007-03-07 Thread Wichert Akkerman
processing and the publisher intact. Two possible things come to mind: - if the tempfile is on a different filesystem you can not link the file elsehere. Can we guarantee that they will be on the same filesystem? - does this work on non-posix systems such as windows? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SOAP support?

2007-01-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I expect to see SOAP used more rather than less. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SOAP support?

2007-01-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Patrick Gerken wrote: On 1/8/07, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is large amount of SOAP deployed and all the .NET development suites I'm familiar with make using SOAP really easy, so I expect to see SOAP used more rather than less. As I dont work with .NET, can

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [SpringCleaning07]

2006-12-21 Thread Wichert Akkerman
with Buffet and then available to TurboGears, Pylons, web.py, whatever. There is a growing number of projects that use SimpleTAL. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Can an adapter find out what name it was registered for?

2006-11-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chris Withers wrote: Really? Certainly in Zope 2, prettymuch every persistent objects needs to be getId()'able... The fact that something is true in Zope 3 does not necessarily make it a good idea. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Can an adapter find out what name it was registered for?

2006-11-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephan Richter wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 03:37, Wichert Akkerman wrote: The fact that something is true in Zope 3 does not necessarily make it a good idea. But the chances are pretty high! ;-) Of course I meant to say 'Zope 2' there, which does reduce the chances

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.testing.testrunner: issue with remove_stale_bytecode

2006-10-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
or non-existing of a corresponding .py file a good indication? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
from spam at some point. For dev.plone.org we disabled anonymous ticket creation and modification. Since creating a plone.org is trivial that has not been a problem. Also, trac 0.10 has just been released which has some spam filtering hooks that might be useful. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [ZF] Re: Use launchpad ! (was Re: [Zope3-dev] the maintenance of change logs)

2006-10-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
the repository browser from trac trac needs filesystem access to the repository - for the commit/issue linking magic (commits automatically updating/closing tickets) pretty much any communication channel between a post-commit hook in the repository and trac can suffice. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Subversion 1.4 breaks mkzopeinstance.py

2006-09-25 Thread Wichert Akkerman
accurate than a single revision number. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Subversion 1.4 breaks mkzopeinstance.py

2006-09-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Uh, why are we parsing the entries file? To get the current revision of the Zope 3 checkout... Why not use svn info --xml? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Naming tags

2006-09-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
know of plenty of versioning schemas that use 1.0a, 1.0b, 1.0c, etc to represent bug releases. With 'rc' it doesn't conflict with any known versioning schemes that I'm aware of. -1 on c1 +1 on rc1 -1 on c1 and +1 on rc1 here as well, for the same reasons. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Release management refinements

2006-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anton Stonor wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Shall we release once every 9 months from now on? 9 months pregnancy -- that's almost poetic. And painful to deliver? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope3-dev] selecting the translation domain in ZCML

2006-05-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
domain in its header; I'm assuming zope is smart enough to extract and use that. If not - please fix that :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] 64-bit BTrees

2006-04-19 Thread Wichert Akkerman
on modern 32bit and a 64bit systems. Until then it's all hand-waiving. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

Re: [Zope3-dev] Important Heads Up: I'm making IResult private

2006-01-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
unencrypted data ever being written to persistent storage (even temporarily). Can you transfer the data through a unix domain socket or a pipe? Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple

[Zope3-dev] unittest failure in svn trunk

2005-08-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
self.assert_(is_started, spawned process failed to start in a minute) File /usr/lib/python2.3/unittest.py, line 278, in failUnless if not expr: raise self.failureException, msg AssertionError: spawned process failed to start in a minute Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Zope3-dev] unittest failure in svn trunk

2005-08-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Stephan Richter wrote: I always ignore this one ;-) If it is something to be ignored shouldn't be disabled? Having a known failure in the unittests is kind of bad. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net

Re: [Zope3-dev] unittest failure in svn trunk

2005-08-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/430 No, that item is fixed: the donothing script is properly marked as executable both in the svn repo and in my checkout. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things