Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-29 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 29, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: I think package-includes or something like an egg basket could be useful for an application, like plone, that wants to support extension by non-developers. But for developers, I think direct zcml includes is

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-29 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: My intention, when I have time is to write a new Zope3 instance recipe that takes a single zcml file that defines the application and that doesn't do anything with package-includes or otherwise try to emulate the existing site.zcml. Ok. Many thanks for the

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, Thomas Lotze and I were working on creating a zc.buildout for one of our internal projects. The ZCML of our application is loaded using the 'package-includes' mechanism. I think this is a bad idea. I think for serious development, package-includes is a

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-28 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, Thomas Lotze and I were working on creating a zc.buildout for one of our internal projects. The ZCML of our application is loaded using the 'package-includes' mechanism. I think this is a bad idea. I think for serious

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Christian Theune wrote: Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Hi everyone, Thomas Lotze and I were working on creating a zc.buildout for one of our internal projects. The ZCML of our application is loaded using the 'package-includes' mechanism. I think this is a bad idea. I think

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-28 Thread Christian Theune
Hi, Jim Fulton wrote: Christian Theune wrote: Can we declare package-includes to be bad in general than and abandon it please? At least tell everyone not to use it if possible? There are more opinions than just mine. :) I think package-includes or something like an egg basket could be

Re: [Zope3-dev] ZCML, functional testing and buildout

2006-11-28 Thread Jim Fulton
Christian Theune wrote: ... I've been meaning to write up some thoughts on this topic for some time. Hopefully, I'll find time for it soon. :) I'm very happy with zc.buildout in general and look forward to start using it much more, Great! but the recipes need some polish Yup, especially