Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Changing zope.app.rdb to better support sqlos

2005-11-07 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote: 4. Every database adapter has an own interface which inherits from the zope one. This would enable the use of normal zope adaption which i would prefer

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Changing zope.app.rdb to better support sqlos

2005-11-07 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:14:34AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 07 November 2005 08:52, Brian Sutherland wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:48:40PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 12:08:09PM +0100, Andres Freund wrote: 4. Every database adapter has an own

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Changing zope.app.rdb to better support sqlos

2005-11-12 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 06:53:23AM -0500, Stephan Richter wrote: On Monday 07 November 2005 10:18, Brian Sutherland wrote: Please don't check this in yet, I want to review the problem before you do, because I think specific interfaces are just nuts unless we have a very good reason

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope3 tarball build/test run log

2006-01-02 Thread Brian Sutherland
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Putting pullparser and clientform where they belong (reverting 39890)

2006-01-03 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 07:13:16AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: Since we are close to the release, I felt compelled to ask before I did this. Could I revert 39890 [1] for the 3.2 release? No. Ok, good thing I asked first then;) I'll work around it or wait. Why wait

Re: [Zope3-dev] Putting pullparser and clientform where they belong (reverting 39890)

2006-01-03 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:51:04AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 07:13:16AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: Because I only realized it was causing a headache for me yesterday. I greatly appreciate your working on Debian packaging. I encourage you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope3 tarball build/test run log

2006-01-04 Thread Brian Sutherland
stopped forwarding these messages until I can be certain they will be more useful. Even before you sent this mail;) -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope3 tarball build/test run log

2006-01-04 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:29:47AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: Yes, building and testing tarballs. What does this mean? What tar balls? Do you mean releases? basically the contents of releases/Zope-test.py. For schooltool, the testing script I use is the same

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Putting pullparser and clientform where they belong (reverting 39890)

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Sutherland
, but the maintenance burden is higher. Also, if you can avoid it, why do you want two sets of packages that do the same thing? I am not fully convinced that zope 3 on the python path is workable, time will tell. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Putting pullparser and clientform where they belong (reverting 39890)

2006-01-10 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:35:11PM +0100, Brian Sutherland wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 10:51:04AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: I am willing to consider a 3.2.1 release for this *after* the final. That would also be fine. OK, if you want to proceed with this, then we'll do

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: rdb: Disappearing Connection

2006-01-13 Thread Brian Sutherland
, if, in this transaction, some SQL has been sent through the connection, the connection will have registered itself with the transaction manager. This made both aborting and commiting the transaction fail for me. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/branches/3.2/ - Declare the zope top-level package as a namespace package if

2006-01-26 Thread Brian Sutherland
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Re: [Zope3-dev] rdb: Disappearing Connection redux

2006-02-09 Thread Brian Sutherland
. Make sure you have a sqlos revision after 22260, as before that sqlos was caching connections (even ones where the server has gone away). -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL

Re: [Zope3-dev] rdb: Disappearing Connection redux

2006-02-17 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:03:55PM +0100, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:54:18AM +0100, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: I add this implementation of isConnected to the mysqldbda in my setup (Zope-2.9 + Five + sqlos, mysql 4.1.12) too, and things

Re: [Zope3-dev] rdb: Disappearing Connection redux

2006-02-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
was related to creating lots of records through sqlos, right? Indeed, though the exact cause is not known. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list

[Zope3-dev] Failure building zope tarball from trunk

2006-03-09 Thread Brian Sutherland
/zope/interface ERROR: file:///home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app/server ERROR: file:///home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app ERROR: 'adapter' doesn't match any files in collection ERROR: (in /home/jinty/releases/Zope3/src/zope/app/PACKAGE.cfg) ERROR: -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: zope.app.rdb bug?

2006-04-17 Thread Brian Sutherland
noticed and started to complain;) So these days we have a per thread cache that is cleaned out before traversing a site and at the end of every request. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL

[Zope3-dev] Re: Patch for testbrowser.py

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
the Zope3 publisher. To be honest I am not enough into the zen of publishers to know the answer but I don't see any analogue in the Zope3 testbrowser. I'm CC'ing Z3-dev to see if anyone there knows better. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman

Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: RFC: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
and removing the old magical directives. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! damm, I really need a new quote... ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http

[Zope3-dev] What's up with the licensing of zc.* packages?

2006-05-29 Thread Brian Sutherland
no license text, ZVSL - http://svn.zope.org/zc.catalog/trunk/src/zc/catalog/i18n.py?rev=41275view=markup zc.datetimewidget no license text -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL

Re: [Zope3-dev] What's up with the licensing of zc.* packages?

2006-06-15 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 10:53:29AM -0400, Benji York wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: * Some of the packages appear to be licensed under the Zope Visible Source License (ZVSL) [snip] I assume this is just an oversight It was, I've fixed the two you mention below. If you

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.

2006-06-15 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:23:30PM -0400, Benji York wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: Log message for revision 68639: A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers. Is there consensus about adding makefiles like this (diff below)? I personally don't like the idea, but I wanted

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zc.resourcelibrary/trunk/ A basic makefile, the ZPL and copyright headers.

2006-06-15 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Benji York wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: The reason I put them there in the first place is to nudge committers to create both the tarball and egg (for perhaps more than one python version) when creating a new release. I would prefer

[Zope3-dev] zope.interface using PyPy's extension compiler

2006-08-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
wrote is available here for anyone else interested: http://lentejasverdes.ath.cx/stuff/pypy/europython_2006/README.html -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: ClientForm to a package

2006-09-26 Thread Brian Sutherland
. Just please don't back-port this. In either case, I would much prefer if we could just depend on it via eggs. +100 (But again, only on trunk.) -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: ClientForm to a package

2006-09-26 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:02:29PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: and Debian packages. I assumed they would not include ClientForm.py but simply depend on it via dpkg? Yep, thats the way it's done, but Zope 3 tarballs come with ClientForm included

Re: [Zope3-dev] z3+squid+Unauthorized = weirdness

2006-12-20 Thread Brian Sutherland
reasonable. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL!! ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Some thoughts on Zope 3, Zope 3 applications, and Zope 3 instances

2007-01-05 Thread Brian Sutherland
file-system layour conventions (e.g. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/). Wearing my sysadmin cap, I'd like to say +100 to following the FHS. -- Brian Sutherland Metropolis - it's the first movie with a robot. And she's a woman. And she's EVIL

Re: [Zope3-dev] Cleaning up dependencies for Zope 3.4 eggs

2007-04-05 Thread Brian Sutherland
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Zope 3 without ZODB (redux)

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 01:49:07PM -0400, Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 05 April 2007 12:50, Brian Sutherland wrote: Reading this thread made me want to try out some stuff: � � http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-January/021612.html So I've made a jinty-zodbless branch

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.rdb error and zope.publisher error

2007-04-26 Thread Brian Sutherland
in the past by hiding real problems. I have never seen any use for it. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.rdb error and zope.publisher error

2007-04-27 Thread Brian Sutherland
and ConflictError errors propagate. I have no objections to your patch, I just thought I would suggest another way. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: what dependency to use for zope 3

2007-05-11 Thread Brian Sutherland
I guess there'll be automated tools to manage this. I think another alternative is to separate the releases into different repositories, kinda like All zope 3.0.0 eggs are at http://download.zope.org/distribution/3.0.0/;. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: what dependency to use for zope 3

2007-05-12 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:59:37PM +0100, Martin Aspeli wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: It's just going to get very difficult very quickly to manage such a meta egg with over 100 or so dependencies. Though I guess there'll be automated tools to manage this. Better we do the difficult

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
in the way people develop in python is making life easier for system packagers :) -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: System python for *development*? (Was: 3.3.0 tag broken by zc.catalog eggs?)

2007-05-23 Thread Brian Sutherland
/autopkgtest. Which should mean that this kind of breakage will happen less as autopkgtest basically is running the tests of installed packages on installed packages. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org

[Zope3-dev] Releasing optionstorage

2007-06-17 Thread Brian Sutherland
do that, I would like to place the egg and module into a namespace package leaving svn externals as the only backwards compatibility. I don't particularly care which namespace package so suggestions would be appreciated. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Releasing optionstorage

2007-06-21 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 12:17:56PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Brian Sutherland wrote: SchoolTool finds itself depending on optionstorage, which is a very zope specific egg. It has never been released, despite being in subversion for a long time. Firstly, I'd like to make

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.html/trunk/ZopePublicLicense.txt Add the ZPL text.

2007-07-11 Thread Brian Sutherland
happy (though I suppose the eggs need it too). Any suggestions as to how to get the actual text when building the tarball? I can see 3 options: * svn export * HTTP GET * Put it inside the setup.py. None of them is very appetizing. -- Brian Sutherland

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: zope.html/trunk/ZopePublicLicense.txt Add the ZPL text.

2007-07-11 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:48:44PM -0400, Fred Drake wrote: On 7/11/07, Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions as to how to get the actual text when building the tarball? ... None of them is very appetizing. No, they're not. Anyone wonder why developers treat packagers

Re: [Zope3-dev] AW: Proposal, free views

2007-09-25 Thread Brian Sutherland
the way Zope3 mixes high-level code (css, html, pagetemplates) with low-level python APIs. Basically forcing you to have (and manage) lots of dependencies even if you only want the python API. -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-27 Thread Brian Sutherland
dependencies. So, why not simply re-name the .orig.tar.gz in a Debian release repository to their original names and you have a working set corresponding to that release. If you add your selected personal working set, then you have a basis for working without bleeding. -- Brian Sutherland

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Known working sets II [was: Eggification redux]

2007-09-29 Thread Brian Sutherland
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:11:06PM +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote: Hey, On 9/27/07, Brian Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] There is one I thought of, but it's a bit backwards. Essentially, Debian has a repository of mostly unmodified original egg tarballs. And, they've already

Re: [Zope3-dev] psycopgda egg

2007-10-10 Thread Brian Sutherland
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Zope 3 releases?

2007-10-10 Thread Brian Sutherland
. A frozen release is very useful for some people (as long as it also gets security updates). -- Brian Sutherland ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com